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Fleur de vice

Titre original : Miele di donna
  • 1981
  • 16
  • 1h 29min
NOTE IMDb
5,0/10
527
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Clio Goldsmith in Fleur de vice (1981)
Drama

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA writer with a gun forces a publisher to read her story about a woman in a hotel of desire.A writer with a gun forces a publisher to read her story about a woman in a hotel of desire.A writer with a gun forces a publisher to read her story about a woman in a hotel of desire.

  • Réalisation
    • Gianfranco Angelucci
  • Scénario
    • Gianfranco Angelucci
    • Liliane Betti
    • Enrique U. Herrera
  • Casting principal
    • Clio Goldsmith
    • Catherine Spaak
    • Fernando Rey
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,0/10
    527
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    • Réalisation
      • Gianfranco Angelucci
    • Scénario
      • Gianfranco Angelucci
      • Liliane Betti
      • Enrique U. Herrera
    • Casting principal
      • Clio Goldsmith
      • Catherine Spaak
      • Fernando Rey
    • 8avis d'utilisateurs
    • 7avis des critiques
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    Rôles principaux12

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    Clio Goldsmith
    Clio Goldsmith
    • Anny
    Catherine Spaak
    Catherine Spaak
    • Escritora
    Fernando Rey
    Fernando Rey
    • Editor
    Donatella Damiani
    Donatella Damiani
    • The Landlady
    Nieves Navarro
    Nieves Navarro
      Lino Troisi
      • Pensionista
      Adriana Russo
      • Inés
      Giuseppe Pennese
        Francisca Fernández
        Luc Merenda
        Luc Merenda
        • El hombre de la habitación
        Anja Engstrom
        • A Ballerinas at the Hotel
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        Ulla Johannsen
        • A Ballerinas at the Hotel
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        • Réalisation
          • Gianfranco Angelucci
        • Scénario
          • Gianfranco Angelucci
          • Liliane Betti
          • Enrique U. Herrera
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        9SMK-4

        Genuinely erotic fantasy

        This is a superior example of a European softporno, one of the few that dares to use the form of a (kind of) drama, without pretending to have become an arthouse picture. In other words: we are not subjected to the violence, humiliation, or silly humour that is so common in 1970s sleaze or the B-movies of the video era; neither do we have to endure any attempts to bring a message across as in the naughtier arthouse pics. This is an erotic film, full stop.

        Miele di donna belongs to the rare breed of films which are genuinely erotic rather than just titillating. Its strength is the semi-real and overcharged atmosphere created by the cinematography, the sets, and Ortolani's excellent music. It is somewhat debatable whether it was a good move to cast Clio Goldsmith in the lead, as she does not manage to radiate any innocence as her character seems to demand and she generally appears a wee bit bland. However, one could argue that her character's innocence is faked anyway, after all she is the focus of a female sexual fantasy; actually, of two female fantasies, as the bulk of the film is a dream in a story in another story. In this sense, Ms Goldsmith plays a nice faked innocence.
        lazarillo

        More weird than erotic, but still kind of interesting

        In the frame story a female author (Catherine Spaak) holds a publisher (Fernando Rey) at gunpoint and forces him to read her novel, which is the basis for the rest of the movie. Unlike the publisher, I have no excuse--I watched this totally voluntarily. Seriously though, it's not that bad. The story-within-the-story is kind of an erotic "Alice in Wonderland". A naive virginal girl (Clio Goldsmith) checks into a pensione inhabited by all kinds of weird employees and guests. The voluptuous female concierge insists on her taking a bath immediately and then ends up GIVING her a bath. The concierge's sister works as a maid "because she likes serving people" (like one of the older male guests who she sexually services in a room while the naked heroine hides under the bed). Another guest (Nieves Navarro)is kind of a cross between a school marm and a dominatrix. There is also a surprisingly heterosexual male ballet teacher and his gaggle of young female students. Finally, there is an oiled-up muscle-man who all the women can't help spying on as he constantly works out in his room.

        This movie is more weird than erotic. The scene where the concierge bathes and, uh, swaddles the protagonist is the second female "adult baby" scene I've encountered in a European movie in the last few months. I don't know if this particular fetish is more silly or disturbing, but it sure isn't very erotic. Other scenes are just too tame. In one promising scene the schoolmarm/dominatrix orders the heroine to strip and kneel down, but then does absolutely nothing else. One of the male characters ties up the heroine in another scene, but then the movie shyly cuts away before turning into the "Story of O". Goldsmith is naked a lot and the maid has one sex scene, but the rest of the female cast stays dressed. Spaak and Navarro were probably a little over the hill (although they both still look good), but you would think they would have done SOMETHING with the nubile female ballet students at least.

        Still, this movie was kind of interesting. It kind of reminded me of Roman Polanski's film "What?", another off-kilter erotic "Alice in Wonderland" type film. The ending of the story-within-the-story is very lame, but the ending of the frame story is actually really good. I didn't entirely waste my time watching this at least.
        3RodrigAndrisan

        Not even mediocre!

        Clio Goldsmith looks great, dressed and undressed. Catherine Spaak looks good too, being only dressed. Together with Fernando Rey, all three they have three stupid roles, below their value. The only one who has a funny role is Luc Merenda. The movie, except for Clio Goldsmith's nude scenes, is a waste of time. 3 stars, just for the 3 actors, Goldsmith, Spaak and Rey, the last 2 being very good in many other films.
        6jordondave-28085

        The notion is more interesting than the result

        (1981) Honey/Miele di donna DUBBED DRAMA

        Co-written and directed by Gianfranco Angelucci which has an inspired young woman(Catherine Spaak) coming to (Fernardo Rey) expensive household to confront him at his front door to force him to read her manuscript at gunpoint. And she forces him to read it out loud, and by the time he reads the title "Pension of Desire" it is during then the pretend re-enactment comes to life, which we find out the title on the manuscript is a name of a hotel, focusing on the made up character named Anny (Clio Goldsmith) just arriving as she is witnessing the going-on's of the hotel, beginning with the above small window in the towel room to the one bathroom. Meeting nothing but eccentric characters, which there is no objective.

        Upon looking at the running time of less than a hour and a half, I was wondering whether or not "Honey" had been shortened since whether there's going to be an attempted make out scene or some other, it is usually cut short, and if it is then there is nothing erotic about it, which the vague and sudden opening serves nothing more than a backdrop to the nude scenes, much of it to the actress Clio Goldsmith therefore the only thing you can do is do nothing but just look and stare. One thing i want to point out is when full frontal is shown, mostly female, shown in movies coming out of Italy, it's most popular when it's aligned with slasher films like Giallo, Jess Franco or Lucio Fulcio. If I can tolerate it on slasher films than I can also tolerate this shown like a drama as well.
        5CrimsonRaptor

        Labyrinths of Desire and Dreamy Voyeurism 🍯

        This film often drifting between artful provocation and unintentional parody, is a curious blend of erotic fantasy and surreal atmosphere. The cinematography leans heavily into soft, sepia-tinged palettes, with browns, creams, and the occasional flash of orange bathing the labyrinthine hotel in a haze that is more somnolent than sensual. There is a deliberate, almost hypnotic pacing to the visuals, evoking the languor of a dream just on the edge of slipping away, yet the intended eroticism feels oddly muted and sometimes even awkward. The film's atmosphere is thick with a sense of voyeurism, but it never quite achieves the sophistication or allure of its European softcore contemporaries, instead settling for a series of vignettes that are as likely to elicit confusion as they are arousal.

        Clio Goldsmith, cast as the wide-eyed ingénue Anny, is the film's undeniable centerpiece. Her performance is earnest, if somewhat limited by the script's fixation on her physical presence rather than emotional nuance. Goldsmith's naivete and vulnerability are palpable, and she manages to anchor the film even as it drifts into increasingly bizarre territory. Donatella Damiani, as the enigmatic landlady, brings a touch of Romanesque mystique, though her role rarely rises above decorative. Catherine Spaak and Fernando Rey, both seasoned performers, are given a framing story that promises more intrigue than it delivers; Rey, in particular, brings a weary gravitas to his scenes as the beleaguered publisher, but the film rarely capitalizes on his talent. The supporting cast is competent, though the characters themselves are so thinly drawn that their eccentricities feel more like quirks for the sake of quirkiness than meaningful contributions to the narrative.

        Despite the film's ambitions, the overall effect is more bewildering than erotic. The production design is sparse, sometimes bordering on cheap, and the score by Riz Ortolani, while occasionally evocative, too often lapses into syrupy melodrama. There are moments that hint at a more sophisticated exploration of desire and fantasy, but these are undercut by clumsy humor and abrupt scene transitions. The film's attempts at provocation, ranging from voyeuristic set pieces to surreal bath scenes, rarely land with the intended impact, leaving an aftertaste of missed opportunity rather than genuine intrigue.

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          Italian censorship visa # 76649 delivered on 25-5-1981.
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        Détails

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        • Date de sortie
          • 21 septembre 1983 (France)
        • Pays d’origine
          • Italie
          • Espagne
        • Langues
          • Italien
          • Anglais
        • Aussi connu sous le nom de
          • La dame de miel
        • Lieux de tournage
          • Barcelone, Catalogne, Espagne
        • Sociétés de production
          • Selecciones Huguet
          • Vogue Film
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          1 heure 29 minutes
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          • Mono
        • Rapport de forme
          • 1.85 : 1

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