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Lili Marleen

  • 1981
  • R
  • 2h
NOTE IMDb
7,1/10
4,6 k
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Lili Marleen (1981)
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En 1938, un chanteur allemand tombe amoureux d'un compositeur juif de Zurich, qui aide les Juifs à fuir l'Allemagne nazie. Elle est renvoyée en Allemagne. Sa chanson "Lili Marleen" devient u... Tout lireEn 1938, un chanteur allemand tombe amoureux d'un compositeur juif de Zurich, qui aide les Juifs à fuir l'Allemagne nazie. Elle est renvoyée en Allemagne. Sa chanson "Lili Marleen" devient un hit auprès des soldats et du top nazi.En 1938, un chanteur allemand tombe amoureux d'un compositeur juif de Zurich, qui aide les Juifs à fuir l'Allemagne nazie. Elle est renvoyée en Allemagne. Sa chanson "Lili Marleen" devient un hit auprès des soldats et du top nazi.

  • Réalisation
    • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
  • Scénario
    • Manfred Purzer
    • Joshua Sinclair
    • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
  • Casting principal
    • Hanna Schygulla
    • Giancarlo Giannini
    • Mel Ferrer
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  • NOTE IMDb
    7,1/10
    4,6 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
    • Scénario
      • Manfred Purzer
      • Joshua Sinclair
      • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
    • Casting principal
      • Hanna Schygulla
      • Giancarlo Giannini
      • Mel Ferrer
    • 13avis d'utilisateurs
    • 34avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 1 victoire et 4 nominations au total

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    Rôles principaux42

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    Hanna Schygulla
    Hanna Schygulla
    • Willie
    Giancarlo Giannini
    Giancarlo Giannini
    • Robert
    Mel Ferrer
    Mel Ferrer
    • David Mendelsson
    Karl-Heinz von Hassel
    • Henkel
    • (as Karl Heinz von Hassel)
    Erik Schumann
    Erik Schumann
    • von Strehlow
    Hark Bohm
    Hark Bohm
    • Taschner
    Gottfried John
    Gottfried John
    • Aaron
    Karin Baal
    Karin Baal
    • Anna Lederer
    Christine Kaufmann
    Christine Kaufmann
    • Miriam
    Udo Kier
    Udo Kier
    • Drewitz
    Roger Fritz
    Roger Fritz
    • Kauffmann
    Rainer Will
    • Bernt
    Raúl Gimenez
    • Blonsky
    • (as Raul Giminez)
    Adrian Hoven
    Adrian Hoven
    • Ginsberg
    Willy Harlander
    • Prosel
    Barbara Valentin
    Barbara Valentin
    • Eva
    Helen Vita
    Helen Vita
    • Grete
    Elisabeth Volkmann
    Elisabeth Volkmann
    • Marika
    • Réalisation
      • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
    • Scénario
      • Manfred Purzer
      • Joshua Sinclair
      • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
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    Vincentiu

    Story of a spell

    Story of a song. And what song! In fact, the creation of Hans Leip and Norbert Schultze is the only character, a spell who creates existences, loves, tragedies with a sarcastic indifference. It is an obsessive music, soul of a ambiguous time of dreams and ideas intoxication, with old words and cruels ambitions.

    Certainly, it is a Fassbinder's lesson about values and lies, about rules of war and feelings, about small victims and sacrifice.

    Hanna Schygulla is gorgeous in a character's skin different of Lale Anderson or Marlene Dietrich but with the same art to describe the atmosphere of extincted space. In some moments I saw in parts of film elements of "Cabaret" Nazi song or "Satyricon" dances. It is normal: interpretation of song is not only piece of a show but rule of life. "Lili Marleen" is not the old "Das Lied eines Jungen Soldaten auf der Wacht" but hard of an universe, hypocrite, coward, frail.

    The final meeting between Willie and Robert is only seal of ordinary tragedy. To late, to far.
    6Classic-Movie-Club

    Minor Fassbinder, worth a watch

    The story of a song in Nazi Germany.. a fiction piece masterly created by Fassbinder. Whilst a stimulating watch, it feels editing could have been tighter at times. Afterwards you can not get the song 'Lili Marleen' out of y head. Best to watch the German version instead of the dubbed English one.
    6cybamuse

    Engaging but frightfully British...

    Jolly good show eld chap - bit of a must see if you like that eld song... I don't know what the makers of this film were thinking, but it was obviously something along the lines of "Dash it all! We appear to got ourselves into a spot of bother here! Too many of the chaps and gels have accents which aren't quite up to par! Well, not to fear - technology to the rescue! I'll just call up the chaps at the club and get them to lend their distinguished Queens English voices to making this film a ripping english yarn about a German singer and a Swiss Jewish music artist..."

    Well, the dubbing of an obviously English film with 'upper crust' English accents had me rolling in the aisles, snorting with laughter at some points throughout the film - it all rather distracted from what was really a very good film. Although the editing was a bit choppy in places (1970's relict directing?), the film faily trundles along providing a genteel look at the distractions and hardships WWII had on life in Europe. True, towards the end, one can sympathise with Giancarlo Giannini's 'torture' scene where the Germans lock him up in a room to listen to a couple of lines from the song, 'Lili Marleen' over and over again... How much was Giannini acting and how much was genuine suffering??? But, if you can overlook the dreadful dubbing, this is a good film!
    8dromasca

    the song of ww2 and the woman behind it

    Rainer Werner Fassbinder always made movies as if he knew his was on borrowed time. Many of the 44 films made by him in his 16-year career represent searches, experiments, attempts to express himself as an artist in the most diverse cinematic ways. 'Lili Marleen', made in 1981, the penultimate year of his life, belongs to a cluster of several films that are apparently less radical than most of the others and closer to mainstream cinema. After the success of some of his movies in previous years, Fassbinder was able to secure financing for more expensive productions with international casts and many extras. He chooses to make 'Lili Marleen', a story woven around the famous song that sounded in the trenches of the Second World War, both German and Allied (one of the famous versions belongs to Marlene Dietrich) and somewhat inspired by the autobiographical book of Lale Andersen, the German singer who first recorded the song on disc. Apparently, it is a melodrama that improbably embellishes her biography. In fact, we also find in this film the story of a woman who has to face alone the dark forces of the surrounding society combined with Fassbinder's sarcastic vision of the history of 20th century Germany.

    The film's lead character, Willie, is a blonde, Aryan, German singer who doesn't seem to know or care much about what's going on in Germany in 1938. She performs in a cabaret in Zurich and falls in love with Robert, a wealthy young Jew, whose family is involved in the anti-Nazi resistance fight and in the rescue of the remaining Jews in Germany. Willie's father opposes the relationship and maneuvers so that the young woman cannot return to Switzerland after a trip to Germany. Forced to earn a living in Nazi Germany, Willie records the song 'Lili Marleen', which after the outbreak of war and the occupation of much of Europe and North Africa by the Nazis becomes a hit listened to by German soldiers and later by the Allies when they will disembark in Europe. The relationship between Willie and Robert continues, and the singer, forced to make artistic compromises and collaborate with the Nazis, begins to open her eyes and get involved in the fight against Nazism.

    As in many of Fassbinder's films, the female characters are much stronger, more nuanced and better defined than the male characters. The lead role is interpreted by the exceptional Hanna Schygulla, Fassbinder's favorite actress. Her Willie is carefree at first, eager to live her life, a fighter for survival using her art and feminine charms as weapons. Above all, however, she is in love, but times of war crush destinies and love stories. Robert and his father are ambiguous characters and Fassbinder has been criticized for this, but also for nuancing the characters on the other side of the conflict, the Nazi officers. My opinion is that artistically the choice was appropriate, and the film must be seen from the director's sarcastic perspective, fascinated but also critical of the anti-cultural kitsch of 20th century Germany. As in many of his other films, Fassbinder also appears in a cameo role, as head of the anti-Nazi resistance, perhaps also to emphasize his personal position. 'Lili Marleen' is a film less appreciated by critics and Fassbinder experts. I consider it among his best films.
    10hasosch

    The Chiasm of Offender and Victim

    Many critics have felt offended that R.W. Fassbinder has portrayed both protagonist Wilkie and the Nazis in this movie in a human-like manner. Connoisseurs of other Fassbinder films, however, will realize that "Lili Marleen" (1981) belongs to Fassbinder's "women movies" like "The Marriage of Maria Braun" (1979) and "Lola" (1981). Fassbinder was convinced that "stories can be told much better with women than with men", because, according to Fassbinder, while men usually fulfill their determined roles in society, "women are capable of thinking in a dialectic manner". Dialectics, however, means that there is not only a thesis and its antithesis like usually in our black-and-white world, but a synthesis where the oppositions coincide. Moreover, dialectic means that because of the third instance of synthesis the absolute opposition of the difference between thesis and antithesis is abolished. Concretely speaking: Starting from a dialect point of view and portraying the fascist state, the underground fighters must necessarily use the basic means like the rulers do, and between offenders and victims there is thus a chiastic relation, so that every offender is also victim and every victim is also offender. Fassbinder has illustrated this abstract scheme, that transcends classical logic, in his play "The City, the Garbage and the Death" (1975) which was filmed by Daniel Schmid under the title "Shadow of Angels" (1976).

    Therefore, approaching an a priori controversial topic like Nazi Germany, in a dialectic manner, the depiction of this time in the form of a movie gets even more controversial, especially for people who cannot or do not want to see that our recognition of the world is by far not exhausted with a primitive light-switch schema, but needs the third instance of synthesis as controlling instance of its opposite members thesis and antithesis. The mutual relationship between offenders and victims has to scrutinized, since it is simply not true that the offenders are the bad ones and the victims the good ones. In a synthetic viewpoint, the bad ones participate on the goodness as the good ones participate on the badness. They are mutually related. In a world-view based on classical logic, a relation between good and bad cannot even been established, and in an ethics based on this insufficient system of logic, the bad conscience of the survivors of Nazi Germany, feeling (illogically enough) responsible for the deeds of their ancestors, exclude the possibility of a relationship between the two extremes and thus a synthesis in the form a new evaluation based on this relationship as well. From Fassbinder's dialectic viewpoint, it follows that neither Lili Marleen nor Lola nor Maria Braun can be condemned for their "misuse" of the ruling system for their private purposes, because they don't misuse them, they just use them. In the opposite, since victims must repeat the actions of the offenders as the offenders must repeat the actions of the victims, because "good" and "bad" are no longer simple mirror images of one another like in two-valued logic, their strategies are legitimated by the chiastic structure of a logic that describes our world, that is not black and white at all, much better than a black-and-white logic.

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    • Anecdotes
      Shot in English for American distribution; later dubbed in German
    • Gaffes
      Kaufmann, the German officer who arrests Robert on the train, wears the uniform of an SS-Gruppenfuhrer (General) - it is highly unlikely that an SS General of such rank would be checking identity papers at random on a train.
    • Citations

      Willie: In front of the barracks / In front of the big gate / Stood a lantern / And there it stands today / And so we want / To see each other / There again / By the lantern we want to stand / Just like Lili Marleen back then / Like Lili Marleen

    • Connexions
      Featured in Century of Cinema: 100 ans de cinéma: Le cinéma allemand par Edgar Reitz - La nuit des cinéastes (1995)
    • Bandes originales
      Lili Marleen
      (German Version)

      (based on a poem from the 1915 book "Die kleine Hafenorgel" by Hans Leip)

      Music By Norbert Schultze,

      Vocals Hanna Schygulla

      (p) 1981 Schlicht Musikverlag, Phonogram, GmbH, DRG Records, Inc., Philips

      © Metropolis Records

      Published By Brampton Music Ltd., Chappell Music Ltd., Peter Maurice Music,

      EMI Music

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 15 avril 1981 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Allemagne de l'Ouest
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Allemand
      • Suisse allemand
      • Polonais
      • Français
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • La vida íntima de Lili Marleen
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Berlin, Allemagne
    • Sociétés de production
      • Rialto Film
      • Roxy-Film GmbH & Co. KG
      • Bayerischer Rundfunk (BR)
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    • Budget
      • 10 500 000 DEM (estimé)
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 8 144 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 11 623 $US
      • 16 févr. 2003
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 8 158 $US
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    • Durée
      2 heures
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.66 : 1

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