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Nick's Movie

Titre original : Lightning Over Water
  • 1980
  • 1h 31min
NOTE IMDb
6,6/10
1,7 k
MA NOTE
Nick's Movie (1980)
Documentary

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueWim Wenders abandons the shoot of one of his own films in order to help his friend and fellow director Nicholas Ray create his swan song before he dies.Wim Wenders abandons the shoot of one of his own films in order to help his friend and fellow director Nicholas Ray create his swan song before he dies.Wim Wenders abandons the shoot of one of his own films in order to help his friend and fellow director Nicholas Ray create his swan song before he dies.

  • Réalisation
    • Nicholas Ray
    • Wim Wenders
  • Scénario
    • Nicholas Ray
    • Wim Wenders
  • Casting principal
    • Gerry Bamman
    • Ronee Blakley
    • Pierre Cottrell
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,6/10
    1,7 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Nicholas Ray
      • Wim Wenders
    • Scénario
      • Nicholas Ray
      • Wim Wenders
    • Casting principal
      • Gerry Bamman
      • Ronee Blakley
      • Pierre Cottrell
    • 13avis d'utilisateurs
    • 19avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 1 victoire et 1 nomination au total

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    Gerry Bamman
    Gerry Bamman
    • Self
    Ronee Blakley
    Ronee Blakley
    • Self
    Pierre Cottrell
    Pierre Cottrell
    • Self
    Stefan Czapsky
    • Self
    Mitch Dubin
    • Self
    Tom Farrell
    Tom Farrell
    • Self
    Becky Johnston
    • Self
    Tom Kaufman
    • Self
    Pat Kirck
    • Self
    Edward Lachman
    Edward Lachman
    • Self
    Martin Müller
    • Self
    Craig Nelson
    • Self
    Nicholas Ray
    Nicholas Ray
    • Self
    Susan Ray
    • Self
    Timothy Ray
    • Self
    Martin Schäfer
    • Self
    Chris Sievernich
    • Self
    Wim Wenders
    Wim Wenders
    • Self
    • Réalisation
      • Nicholas Ray
      • Wim Wenders
    • Scénario
      • Nicholas Ray
      • Wim Wenders
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    bworthen

    See this movie if you love Nicholas Ray

    This is not a movie for Wenders fans as much as it is for Nick Ray fans. In fact, I wouldn't recommend it unless you felt connected to the director. And I don't mean that you've happened to rent Johnny Guitar, In a Lonely Place or They Live By Night. See it if you saw a theme in Ray's work, one that made you go back and learn about his life. See it if you re-watched his films, trying to understand every cut and what it told you about the man behind the camera. See it if it bothers you that he will never make another film. Because in Lightning over water Nicholas Ray invites you to share his death with him, and, if you see it, you must be prepared to grieve. I saw this movie late one night in my college dorm room (a college with a featured role in the film, but that is merely tangential). I didn't let anyone watch it with me. The previous summer my grandfather had died in the same drawn-out manner. He was surrounded by family from the time of his diagnosis to the time of his death. Wenders and his crew are Nick Ray's family -- a love of the director's work is the blood connecting them. Wenders carries a camera with him because he knows that others -- even those who never heard of Nicholas Ray until he was dead for 18 years -- have the same blood in them. Wenders gives us the chance. But it is Nick Ray who we come to see.
    dbdumonteil

    Bigger than life (and death too)

    In 1977,Nicholas Ray was part of the cast of "der Amerikanische Freund" as Derwatt,a painter who made forgeries .In this movie,Ray tells the story of a painter who steals the masterpieces in the museums and replaces them with forgeries.

    I have always been a Ray fan from "they live by night" to "run for cover" to "party girl" to his final epics which were looked upon by pretty much as failures.I must admit that I do not go much for Wenders' stuff ,which is much too intellectual for me .

    Its not a documentary movie,it's cinema verite depicting a man who is dying.The courage the director displays in front of death commands admiration but I wonder whether this movie should have been released:it's an intimate one,which should have been reserved for the circle of family and close friends.And I'm sure that many of these prefer to keep a picture of a healthy man .

    If you have seen four or five movies by Ray ("rebel without a cause" "Johnny Guitar" "The savage" ) a piece of advice:try and see the lesser known Ray works:"wind across the everglades "born to be bad" "on dangerous ground" or "knock on any door" .The best homage to an exceptionally gifted director.

    There are two good moments in "Lightning over water":

    The "lusty men" extract happens to be my favorite in this classic:Mitchum come s back home,an old house where he finds back a comic and a money box:In "Lightning " ,Ray hints at "coming back home,seeing my mother's face" Childhood was an obsession in his work :just remember Dean playing in the gutter ("Rebel) or Cagney trying to make Derek his "son" in "run for cover" .

    THe diary which Wenders reads is in German which makes sense since it's his first language;the shots of the wings of the plane are fascinating.
    10searchanddestroy-1

    Nick's last stand

    Painful but beautiful, poignant but disturbing, this film is unmissable for anyone loving Nick Ray's spirit and features. This director was not a Hollywood yes man, the common boot licker facing the moguls. His entire director life was a dog fight, and because he was a very sensitive and brilliant, intelligent but fragile man, he became a drug and many other substances addict, including sex and women. That slowly destroyed him. In this film, you watch him dying, filmed by his friend Wim Wenders. Useless to say that is not for all audiences, only die hard Nick Ray's or Wenders fans. It's more a document than a fiction feature. It's better to watch it on DVD with the director's comment, with all the indications and explanations; useless to see the "naked" movie, as it better for most of regular, ordinary movies. The thing that moved me the most was Nick's eyes, glance, the eyes of someone very intelligent, someone certainly not full of emptiness. The eyes of someone very alive. Very lucid. And believe me, this film is eveything but peeping tom oriented. No, Nick Ray totally agreed to be filmed, and not dying alone. So painful. RIP Nick.
    9pyamada

    not a simple film

    Wenders gives the viewer the impression that this is a simple movie, but it is not. Fans of Wenders will recognize director Nicholas Ray's apartment as a location for the film, American Friend. But not only is Ray simply dying, he dies, and the "documentary" has to change, and so it does, with grace, pain, uncertainty, and a host of other emotions and observations. The music, much of it featuring Ronee Blakley, doing what sounds like an attempt at light punk rock and country-folk rock, with a definite Patti Smith influence, is very effective. Like every film I have seen by Wenders, it looks beautiful and often unusual, and the pacing is leisurely, and by Hollywood standards, slow. However, anyone who likes Wenders and likes Ray--and let's face it, if you say you are a fan of American film, and you neither like nor know Nicholas Ray, you are an ignorant piker, poser--will benefit from screening this movie, and probably be moved like hell by it.
    1mossgrymk

    lightning over water

    Not being in the habit of viewing snuff films I experienced what was, for me, a strange, rather unique emotion roughly five minutes into this documentary. Put into words it was, "I should not be watching this." And this feeling only deepened and broadened as the doc continued. I know the subject approved of it and that it was done with his full cooperation but I still felt as if it was obscene for me to be watching it. Even in our voyeuristic, surveiled world, where everything, it seems, belongs to someone or something other than oneself, some things are simply too private for sharing. Such as a real person's actual last, cancer ravaged moments. So I pulled the plug right after the "Lusty Men" clip which is definitely something I should be watching.

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    Histoire

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    Le saviez-vous

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    • Anecdotes
      Final film directed by Nicholas Ray; this also marks as his first documentary.
    • Citations

      Wim Wenders: I didn't come here to talk about dying Nick... but we might have to.

      Nicholas Ray: But we might have to?

      Wim Wenders: I was looking forward to seeing you, because I need your advice. You told me on the phone that you wanted to see me, but I was afraid to come too. And I think I'd rather tell you right now; why. I was aware that I'd see you in weakness, and... that... you might be worried about being seen this way. But I feel it's okay now. There is something else that came to my mind in the plane last night, that I'm actually more afraid of. I thought that I could find myself being attracted to your weakness, or to your suffering, and... if I realized I was, I think I would have to leave you. It would feel like abusing you... or betraying you.

      Nicholas Ray: That won't happen.

      Wim Wenders: Good! So what are our plans for the rest of the day?

    • Versions alternatives
      After Nicholas Ray died, Wim Wenders was too depressed to help edit the film, so he left it to Peter Przygodda. Przygodda spent a year working on it, and this was the 116-minute version shown at the Cannes Film Festival. Wenders, however, was disturbed by this version and found it depressing and obscure. He spent three months with Chris Sievernich re-editing the film. Aside from cutting more than 25 minutes, he added more footage of Susan Ray as well as his narration of Ray's diary. This 91-minute version is the one distributed by the Wim Wenders foundation.
    • Connexions
      Edited from Nicholas Ray: Especially for Pierre (1979)
    • Bandes originales
      Lightning Over Water
      Performed by Ronee Blakley

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    • How long is Lightning Over Water?Alimenté par Alexa

    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 23 novembre 1984 (Suède)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Allemagne de l'Ouest
      • Suède
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Allemand
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Lightning Over Water
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Ville de New York, New York, États-Unis
    • Sociétés de production
      • Road Movies Filmproduktion
      • Viking Film
      • Wim Wenders Productions
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    • Budget
      • 700 000 $US (estimé)
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    • Durée
      1 heure 31 minutes
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.66 : 1

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