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Vous avez dit dingues?

Titre original : O.C. and Stiggs
  • 1985
  • R
  • 1h 49min
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Vous avez dit dingues? (1985)
Buddy ComedySatireTeen ComedyComedyRomance

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueO.C. and Stiggs aren't your average unhappy teenagers. They not only despise their suburban surroundings, they plot against them. They seek revenge against the middle-class Schwab family, wh... Tout lireO.C. and Stiggs aren't your average unhappy teenagers. They not only despise their suburban surroundings, they plot against them. They seek revenge against the middle-class Schwab family, who embody all they detest: the middle class.O.C. and Stiggs aren't your average unhappy teenagers. They not only despise their suburban surroundings, they plot against them. They seek revenge against the middle-class Schwab family, who embody all they detest: the middle class.

  • Réalisation
    • Robert Altman
  • Scénario
    • Tod Carroll
    • Ted Mann
    • Donald Cantrell
  • Casting principal
    • Daniel Jenkins
    • Neill Barry
    • Jane Curtin
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,3/10
    1,5 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Robert Altman
    • Scénario
      • Tod Carroll
      • Ted Mann
      • Donald Cantrell
    • Casting principal
      • Daniel Jenkins
      • Neill Barry
      • Jane Curtin
    • 44avis d'utilisateurs
    • 22avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Daniel Jenkins
    Daniel Jenkins
    • O.C.
    • (as Daniel H. Jenkins)
    Neill Barry
    Neill Barry
    • Stiggs
    Jane Curtin
    Jane Curtin
    • Elinore Schwab
    Paul Dooley
    Paul Dooley
    • Randall Schwab
    Jon Cryer
    Jon Cryer
    • Randall Schwab Jr.
    Laura Lanoil
    • Lenore Schwab
    • (as Laura Urstein)
    Victor Ho
    • Frankie Tang
    Ray Walston
    Ray Walston
    • Gramps
    Donald May
    Donald May
    • Jack Stiggs
    Carla Borelli
    Carla Borelli
    • Stella Stiggs
    Stephanie Elfrink
    • Missie Stiggs
    Amanda Hull
    • Debbie Stiggs
    James Gilsenan
    • Barney Beaugereaux
    Tina Louise
    Tina Louise
    • Florence Beaugereaux
    Cynthia Nixon
    Cynthia Nixon
    • Michelle
    Greg Wrangler
    Greg Wrangler
    • Jefferson Washington
    • (as Greg Wangler)
    Dennis Hopper
    Dennis Hopper
    • Sponson
    Alan Autry
    Alan Autry
    • Goon
    • Réalisation
      • Robert Altman
    • Scénario
      • Tod Carroll
      • Ted Mann
      • Donald Cantrell
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    7vinceb65

    Obscure Yet Still An Old Fave

    O.C. & Stiggs is one of my favorite 80's movies. I truly wish it would get issued on DVD but I realize the chances of this are remote. The movie did not have too much of a plot. And, while I loved the liberal trashing of the extreme right-wing conservative neighbor, the movie was quite mean-spirited at times. It is tough to classify this film, but I believe it struck a chord with me due to the anti-establishment mentality of the two lead characters.

    The story centers around the two lead characters, high school guys with way too much time on their hands with an affinity for the African music stylings of King Sunny Ade and an extreme antipathy towards the ultra-right-wing insurance agency owner who lives in their neighborhood. The movie follows the two leads as they prank the family (the Schwabs) and otherwise try to survive a record Arizona heat wave by bothering as many people as they can. For instance, their joint purchase of the "Gila Monster". A giant monster-truck-tired old-school convertible which made more noise and belched out more smoke and fumes than any self-respecting oil refinery. Perhaps it was my being 16 when I first saw the movie and latching onto ti for being different (and funny), but hey, if it ever gets re-released, I will re-buy it.

    The movie isn't for everyone, but I enjoyed it immensely. One quote in particular was worth the price of the rental back in 1988: "That's the problem with insurance. Destruction just isn't permanent anymore". And, if I can ever find my old VHS copy (many, many friends have borrowed this tape), I need to find out the title of the King Sunny Ade song he plays in the impromptu concert scene.
    RT Firefly

    Frightenly bad. Nothing like the National Lampoon story.

    I loved the National Lampoon magazine story O.C. & Stiggs was based on but this film is nothing like it's predecessor. It does however back up my long held opinion that the only reason Robert Altman has been allowed to make films after 'Nashville' is because of the prolific amount of drug use amongst movie critics. Altman has an uncanny ability to produce films that, regardless of the budget, look low budget. This one reads like a student film or worse. The two edgy & cool leads are horribly miscast with two very uncool comedic softies that completely undermine the angst and subversion of the original characters. Picture Jim Varney as Hunter S. Thompson or Paulie Shore as Ferris Bueller. Rather than subversive the material comes off looking juvenile and just mean spirited. But for those who insist on pretending they love Altman films, no worry. There is plenty of bad photography, busy cameras, scenes that makes no sense, overlapping dialogue and most of all, a huge cast of name actors that all look like they are practicing their lines.
    Beren

    Underrated

    Like many of Robert Altman's smaller movies, O.C. and Stiggs is under-appreciated. Most of the teenage movies that clogged up the mid-80's consisted of nothing more than stupid sex jokes and gross-out shots designed to humiliate straw men villains. O.C. and Stiggs is a movie where you feel that all sorts of things are possible. It's humorous in the best sense.

    It remains a mystery why some of Altman's films are overrated (e.g. The Player and Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean), while others are immediately forgotten.
    9vlvetmorning98

    A Robert Altman film..."you know, for the kids"

    By far the most wacked-out teen comedy of all time, this bizarre Robert Altman nugget was adapted from a single issue of National Lampoon magazine, the 1982 "Utterly Monstrous, Mind-Roasting Summer of O.C. and Stiggs" special. The plot is simple: O.C. and Stiggs are two bored, horny, Arizona high schoolers who find immense satisfaction in tormenting the Schwab family (the patriarch is fabulously portrayed by Altman regular Paul Dooley). Over summer vacation, they canoe to Mexico, buy a machine gun from Dennis Hopper, organize a King Sunny Ade concert, and try to woo Cynthia Nixon. There's no sentimentality in this film whatsoever. The two leads are unlikable, homophobic morons, but it still adds up into a remarkably funny endeavor. If you're not in the mood for something with a profound statement to make and enjoy laughing at bizarre non-sequiturs, give this film a try.
    7evanston_dad

    I Expected the Worst, But I Liked This One

    Perhaps it's because I came in with bottom-of-the-barrel expectations for a movie I've heard absolutely nothing good about, but I found myself enjoying "O.C. and Stiggs" quite a lot. I know from experience how bad bad Altman can be, so I expected the worst. But if you share Altman's smart-ass sense of humor, as I do, I can't help but think that you'll find this movie pretty funny.

    The very nominal plot has something to do with two adolescents (the O.C. and Stiggs of the title) spending one summer terrorizing an affluent, middle class family because the patriarch (played with just the right amount of buffoonery by Paul Dooley), head of an insurance company, has denied insurance for O.C.'s grandfather (played uproariously by Ray Walston). But let me stress the word "nominal." This narrative loosely holds together what can otherwise only be described as controlled chaos. In typical Altman fashion, the film is an assemblage of barely choreographed scenes in which actors wander around ad-libbing to their hearts' content. This is not an insult. This style has resulted in some dreadful bombs for Altman, but it's also been responsible for some of his inspired classics. "O.C. and Stiggs" is nowhere near the latter, but it's certainly not the former either.

    Altman said in interviews that he intended "O.C. and Stiggs" as a satire of all of those naughty "boys behaving badly" comedies popular in the 1980s. I don't know that it's so much a satire of those films as it is on people in general. It's full of a sneering disdain for a sort of vapid, bourgeois lifestyle that rears its head in much of Altman's work. Scottsdale, Arizona is depicted as a bland land of lawn ornaments, plastic furniture and man-made nature. We don't learn much about O.C. and Stiggs, and they're not even necessarily that likable, but neither are the Schwabbs, the family they torment, and anyway Altman doesn't really ask us to root for anyone but rather just enjoy the silliness. The funniest thing about the film is that the Schwabbs seem to be completely unaware that they're being tormented and instead wander around in a self-absorbed daze.

    The rest of the cast includes Jane Curtin, as the boozy matriarch; Martin Mull, as a designer of African fashions; Cynthia Nixon, as a love interest; Jon Cryer, as a dweeb; and best of all, Dennis Hopper, reprising his role from "Apocalypse Now," and who features significantly in the film's climax, a shootout in the Schwabbs' bomb shelter.

    It would appear that time has been kind to this utterly dismissed film from the mid-1980s, and you could do much worse from Robert Altman's canon alone, let alone from other films in the same genre.

    Grade: B

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    • Anecdotes
      Post-production was finished in 1984, but the film wasn't released until three years later.
    • Gaffes
      When the helicopter lands in Schawb's yard, Goon's arm can be seen hiding behind the seats. The pilot just leans over so that Goon can jump out from behind and look as if he was the pilot.
    • Citations

      Mark Stiggs: [specifying the Gila Monster car to Ms Bunny] OK, Ms. Bunny! Number 1, we want zero miles to the gallon.

      Oliver Cromwell 'O.C.' Ogilvie: Right. No MPGs. It has to be a vulgarlay inefficient mode of trasnportation.

      Mark Stiggs: Loud, real loud. It has to generate a terrifyingly seismic field of noise. If we could combine really loud noise with the ugliness of poverty, we'd have the ideal car.

      Mark Stiggs: ...making people think that you're poor, so they know you've got nothing to loose if they crash into your car....

      Mark Stiggs: Here's a list of places I want this car to be totally unwelcome. Number one: funerals. Number two: affairs of state, you know, real formal ones...ones with...chamber music. Number three: wet golf greens. Number four: the acropolis.

      Oliver Cromwell 'O.C.' Ogilvie: Ah, yes. Driving this car right in the acropolis should be completely horrifying to every civilized guy on earth.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Altman (2014)
    • Bandes originales
      Mo Ti Mo
      (song title uncredited)

      Written by King Sunny Ade

      Performed by King Sunny Ade and his African Beats

      Special music and appearance by King Sunny Ade and his AFRICAN BEATS

      Courtesy of Island Records, Ltd.

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 1985 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • O.C. and Stiggs
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Sonoran Desert, Arizona, États-Unis
    • Sociétés de production
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
      • National Lampoon
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    • Budget
      • 7 000 000 $US (estimé)
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 29 815 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 6 273 $US
      • 12 juil. 1987
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 29 815 $US
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    • Durée
      1 heure 49 minutes
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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