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Les douze salopards 2: Nouvelle mission

Titre original : The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission
  • Téléfilm
  • 1985
  • 1h 35min
NOTE IMDb
5,1/10
2,7 k
MA NOTE
Lee Marvin in Les douze salopards 2: Nouvelle mission (1985)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueDuring WW2, American General Worden orders Major Reisman to pick 12 soldiers from the military prison for the dangerous mission of killing a Nazi General.During WW2, American General Worden orders Major Reisman to pick 12 soldiers from the military prison for the dangerous mission of killing a Nazi General.During WW2, American General Worden orders Major Reisman to pick 12 soldiers from the military prison for the dangerous mission of killing a Nazi General.

  • Réalisation
    • Andrew V. McLaglen
  • Scénario
    • Lukas Heller
    • Nunnally Johnson
    • Michael Kane
  • Casting principal
    • Lee Marvin
    • Ernest Borgnine
    • Ken Wahl
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • NOTE IMDb
    5,1/10
    2,7 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Andrew V. McLaglen
    • Scénario
      • Lukas Heller
      • Nunnally Johnson
      • Michael Kane
    • Casting principal
      • Lee Marvin
      • Ernest Borgnine
      • Ken Wahl
    • 19avis d'utilisateurs
    • 6avis des critiques
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    Lee Marvin
    Lee Marvin
    • Maj. John Reisman
    Ernest Borgnine
    Ernest Borgnine
    • Gen. Worden
    Ken Wahl
    Ken Wahl
    • Louis Valentine
    Larry Wilcox
    Larry Wilcox
    • Tommy Wells
    Sonny Landham
    Sonny Landham
    • Sam Sixkiller
    Richard Jaeckel
    Richard Jaeckel
    • MP Sgt. Clyde Bowren
    Wolf Kahler
    Wolf Kahler
    • Gen. Sepp Dietrich
    Gavan O'Herlihy
    Gavan O'Herlihy
    • Conrad E. Perkins
    Ricco Ross
    Ricco Ross
    • Arlen Dregors
    Stephen Hattersley
    • Otto Deutsch
    Rolf Saxon
    Rolf Saxon
    • Robert E. Wright
    Jay Benedict
    Jay Benedict
    • Didier Le Clair
    Michael John Paliotti
    • Baxley
    Paul Herzberg
    • Reynolds
    Jeff Harding
    Jeff Harding
    • Sanders
    Sam Douglas
    • Anderson
    Russell Sommers
    • Gary Rosen
    Michael Sheard
    Michael Sheard
    • Adolf Hitler
    • Réalisation
      • Andrew V. McLaglen
    • Scénario
      • Lukas Heller
      • Nunnally Johnson
      • Michael Kane
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    Avis des utilisateurs19

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    5AlsExGal

    Uninspired TV-movie sequel to the 1967 original

    .Lee Marvin returns as Major Reisman, who is once again charged with training a dozen convicted and condemned felons for a suicide mission behind enemy lines in the latter days of WWII. Ernest Borgnine also returns as the commanding general, as does Richard Jaeckel as the MP sergeant. Among the flavorless 12 are Ken Wahl, Larry Wilcox, Sonny Landham, Ricco Ross, Gavan O'Herlihy, and others who in no way measure up to the original's cast. Wolf Kahler plays the German general that's the target of the mission. He's intent on assassinating Hitler, and the Allies don't want that, as Hitler's many military blunders are hastening the war's end. The script is pedestrian at best, and many chunks of dialogue are repeated verbatim from the first film. I'm glad I saw it, as it was a Lee Marvin picture I had yet to see, but I'm not in any hurry to see it again.
    6SkullScreamerReturns

    Inferior sequel but decent action adventure

    Dirty Dozen got its sequel, what, 18 years later. I don't know whose idea it was that this is an important movie to make. I mean, watching the sequel it looks like there should be more new ideas invented during all those years. But no, it starts almost like the same movie over again. Lee Marvin plays again the major who is assigned to gather a new team of misfit soldiers. Even the dialogue seems similar to the first film (when Marvin is giving instructions to the new guys). I was a bit disappointed that Charles Bronson is not in this one because his character survived the end battle of the first film. My guess is that he was busy making Death Wish 3 at the time (well, I don't blame him for that choice).

    So, Lee Marvin is the main guy who holds this movie on his shoulders. It's actually strange his face hasn't aged much even despite the long gap between the movies. The new actors are not bad but their characters are left paper thin. The training part is very short and straightforward. Instead of character drama we have a short but cool training montage, and then it's time for action. For the merit of this film I must say its length is a lot shorter than the first one. That makes the lack of new ideas a bit easier to digest. It's an action film that doesn't try to accomplish anything deeper.

    I happened to find this movie as bonus material on the dvd of the first film. That's pretty much how you should take this film - a bonus feature for fans who can't get enough of the first movie. Just go with low expectations.
    re_zuleta

    The Real-Life Story/Events Film Was Based On

    According to an article written many years ago, the original "The Dirty Dozen" novel was actually based on real life story. US military convicts were offered pardon in exchange for similar suicide missions in Nazi occupied France. They agreed, but after the drop they turned their tails and spent the rest of the war in neutral Spain. In real life, use of pardoned convicts as soldiers is rather common phenomena, as experiences in former Yugoslavia indicate. In WWII Red Army and Wehrmacht employed such practice. The operation that actually resembles this movie the most was conducted by Germans. In May of 1944, frustrated with unsuccessful attempts to chase down and destroy the core formations of Yugoslav Partisans, German High Command planned the daring parachute raid on the headquarters of Partisan leader Tito and trained entire battalion of convicts for that very purpose. At the end of the day, Tito, although initially surprised, managed to get away and the convict paratroopers, decimated in a hellatious battle, took only Tito's freshly tailored Field Marshall uniform as their only trophy.
    5SgtSlaughter

    More of a remake than a sequel.

    This film is definitely more of a remake of the classic THE DIRTY DOZEN than a sequel. (Although the events here are said to take place in September 1944.) There's a lot of the same dialog as in the original movie and even the same type of characters! There's a Telly Savalas clone, a Jim Brown clone, a Charles Bronson clone, Marvin, Borgnine and Jaeckel reprise their original roles, and all three look about ready to drop dead on the set. At the time of filming, Marvin was about 60, Borgnine almosty 70 and Jaeckel is almost 60. All too old to be in combat operations.) You'll feel as though you're watching the same characters (meaning the 12, not the officers leading them) from the original, except played here by new actors. The mission is even similar: kill a Nazi general, rather than the many of the first movie. This time there is no character development and little training. (It's almost an hour shorter than the original film, too) The men land and trek across France, whining all the way, always about to rebel but turning to Marvin's widsom in the end. Same stuff as before. The climax was decent and I liked the action theme more than the music of the original movie.

    I'd watch this only to see how badly a movie can be remade / followed-up when a studio tries to make money. Here they failed miserably. I paid $.50 cents to watch this at a rental store. It's not worth much more if you've seen the original 1967 film.
    VENEZIADOGE

    Unfortunately for us, the "Dirty Dozen" made it out alive in this one...

    This movie had all the warning signs of a horribly cheesy comical re-make. Based upon "The Dirty Dozen," this almost unbearable 90 minutes of film made me almost rethink such masterpieces as Conspiracy Theory, The Blair Witch Project, and Batman and Robin. The movie itself was a mix between the worst Naked Gun humor, and a mildly serious Police Academy 7. Since it was also a "made-for-TV" movie, and since it was also a "made-for-TV" movie comedy, it is among the very cheesiest of the cheesy. So be warned, and watch out for Sonny Landham who played Billy in Predator.Particular attention should be payed to the German scene, which was one of the cheesy-funny scenes in the movie. But as a rule, avoid most movies with "The Next Mission" in the title, or comedies made for TV.

    Hopefully this was the Dirty Dozen's last mission, or rather the "Baker's Dozen's" last mission!

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    • Anecdotes
      Television movie debut for Lee Marvin. This is despite appearing in a number of television series episodes and the movie À bout portant (1964), which was originally made for television but ended up being released theatrically because it was thought to be too violent for TV.
    • Gaffes
      The Uniform Code of Military Justice did not take effect until 1951 yet it is mentioned several times in the movie.
    • Citations

      Arlen Dregors: [telling his story] We were on patrol in this village. There we five men. Officers. They had this young girl trapped. They each took their turns with her. None of us did nothin' to stop 'em. You see, they were white officers, we were negro soldiers. When they finished, they got into their Jeep and... just drove away. Something just happened inside me.

      Maj. John Reisman: You hit a lieutenant in the back of the head at 220 yards. That's a nice shot.

      Arlen Dregors: The Army didn't think so.

      Maj. John Reisman: But they're prejudiced. I'm not.

    • Connexions
      Edited from Les douze salopards (1967)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 4 février 1985 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Français
      • Allemand
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Les douze salopards 2
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Horsted Keynes Railway Station, Bluebell Railway, Sussex, Angleterre, Royaume-Uni(Railway scene with Lee Marvin on maintenance trolley)
    • Société de production
      • MGM/UA Television
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    • Durée
      • 1h 35min(95 min)
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    • Mixage
      • Stereo
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.33 : 1

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