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Les douze salopards 2: Nouvelle mission

Titre original : The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission
  • Téléfilm
  • 1985
  • 1h 35min
NOTE IMDb
5,1/10
2,7 k
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Lee Marvin in Les douze salopards 2: Nouvelle mission (1985)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueDuring WW2, American General Worden orders Major Reisman to pick 12 soldiers from the military prison for the dangerous mission of killing a Nazi General.During WW2, American General Worden orders Major Reisman to pick 12 soldiers from the military prison for the dangerous mission of killing a Nazi General.During WW2, American General Worden orders Major Reisman to pick 12 soldiers from the military prison for the dangerous mission of killing a Nazi General.

  • Réalisation
    • Andrew V. McLaglen
  • Scénario
    • Lukas Heller
    • Nunnally Johnson
    • Michael Kane
  • Casting principal
    • Lee Marvin
    • Ernest Borgnine
    • Ken Wahl
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • NOTE IMDb
    5,1/10
    2,7 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Andrew V. McLaglen
    • Scénario
      • Lukas Heller
      • Nunnally Johnson
      • Michael Kane
    • Casting principal
      • Lee Marvin
      • Ernest Borgnine
      • Ken Wahl
    • 19avis d'utilisateurs
    • 6avis des critiques
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    Rôles principaux31

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    Lee Marvin
    Lee Marvin
    • Maj. John Reisman
    Ernest Borgnine
    Ernest Borgnine
    • Gen. Worden
    Ken Wahl
    Ken Wahl
    • Louis Valentine
    Larry Wilcox
    Larry Wilcox
    • Tommy Wells
    Sonny Landham
    Sonny Landham
    • Sam Sixkiller
    Richard Jaeckel
    Richard Jaeckel
    • MP Sgt. Clyde Bowren
    Wolf Kahler
    Wolf Kahler
    • Gen. Sepp Dietrich
    Gavan O'Herlihy
    Gavan O'Herlihy
    • Conrad E. Perkins
    Ricco Ross
    Ricco Ross
    • Arlen Dregors
    Stephen Hattersley
    • Otto Deutsch
    Rolf Saxon
    Rolf Saxon
    • Robert E. Wright
    Jay Benedict
    Jay Benedict
    • Didier Le Clair
    Michael John Paliotti
    • Baxley
    Paul Herzberg
    • Reynolds
    Jeff Harding
    Jeff Harding
    • Sanders
    Sam Douglas
    • Anderson
    Russell Sommers
    • Gary Rosen
    Michael Sheard
    Michael Sheard
    • Adolf Hitler
    • Réalisation
      • Andrew V. McLaglen
    • Scénario
      • Lukas Heller
      • Nunnally Johnson
      • Michael Kane
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    Avis des utilisateurs19

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    Petey-10

    Jail birds back in action

    Maj. John Reisman gets another mission, where he has to train convicted army soldiers.This time they have to kill a Nazi general, who plans to assassinate Adolf Hitler.And there's some talk about a Nazi treasure.The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission (1985) is directed by Andrew V. McLaglen.Lee Marvin reprises his role as Maj. Reisman.As does Ernest Borgnine as Gen. Worden.And so does Richard Jaeckel as MP Sgt. Clyde Bowren.Ken Wahl plays Louis Valentine.Larry Wilcox plays Tommy Wells.Sonny Landham is Sam Sixkiller.Ricco Ross is Arlen Dregors.Gavan O'Herlihy plays Conrad E. Perkins.Jay Benedict plays Didier le Clair.Stephen Hattersley is Otto Deutch.Rolf Saxon is Robert E. Wright.Wolf Kahler plays S.S. General Sepp Dietrich.Michael Sheard plays the part of Hitler, as he did in a few other movies.The movie has some tight action scenes.And at one point Dregors has Hitler at his target.That is quite fascinating to watch, when he's pondering should he pull the trigger.The sequel, although not gaining the level of the original, still manages to entertain.In these kind of movies you don't have to ask for more.
    re_zuleta

    The Real-Life Story/Events Film Was Based On

    According to an article written many years ago, the original "The Dirty Dozen" novel was actually based on real life story. US military convicts were offered pardon in exchange for similar suicide missions in Nazi occupied France. They agreed, but after the drop they turned their tails and spent the rest of the war in neutral Spain. In real life, use of pardoned convicts as soldiers is rather common phenomena, as experiences in former Yugoslavia indicate. In WWII Red Army and Wehrmacht employed such practice. The operation that actually resembles this movie the most was conducted by Germans. In May of 1944, frustrated with unsuccessful attempts to chase down and destroy the core formations of Yugoslav Partisans, German High Command planned the daring parachute raid on the headquarters of Partisan leader Tito and trained entire battalion of convicts for that very purpose. At the end of the day, Tito, although initially surprised, managed to get away and the convict paratroopers, decimated in a hellatious battle, took only Tito's freshly tailored Field Marshall uniform as their only trophy.
    5mhasheider

    Stick with the original

    Flat and unconvincing follow-up to the original where Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) is ordered to lead another group of convicts into France to take out a German SS general who is planning to eliminate the Fuhrer.

    Besides Marvin reprising his role here, Ernest Borgnine and Richard Jaeckel also return "nearly" two decades after the original came out.

    It's almost impossible for me to decide which was worse, watching the three cast members (from the first movie) forced to carry the burden on their backs and/or how terrible the story (and the apparent lack of character development and humor if there is any). I bet a college freshman could come up with a far better story that anyone would enjoy.

    Stick with the original.
    5SgtSlaughter

    More of a remake than a sequel.

    This film is definitely more of a remake of the classic THE DIRTY DOZEN than a sequel. (Although the events here are said to take place in September 1944.) There's a lot of the same dialog as in the original movie and even the same type of characters! There's a Telly Savalas clone, a Jim Brown clone, a Charles Bronson clone, Marvin, Borgnine and Jaeckel reprise their original roles, and all three look about ready to drop dead on the set. At the time of filming, Marvin was about 60, Borgnine almosty 70 and Jaeckel is almost 60. All too old to be in combat operations.) You'll feel as though you're watching the same characters (meaning the 12, not the officers leading them) from the original, except played here by new actors. The mission is even similar: kill a Nazi general, rather than the many of the first movie. This time there is no character development and little training. (It's almost an hour shorter than the original film, too) The men land and trek across France, whining all the way, always about to rebel but turning to Marvin's widsom in the end. Same stuff as before. The climax was decent and I liked the action theme more than the music of the original movie.

    I'd watch this only to see how badly a movie can be remade / followed-up when a studio tries to make money. Here they failed miserably. I paid $.50 cents to watch this at a rental store. It's not worth much more if you've seen the original 1967 film.
    yenlo

    Colorless, pointless and cartoonish

    Nearly twenty years after the original, Major Reisman again played by Lee Marvin gets assigned a new gang of G.I. convicts for another mission. If this had to be made why did it have to be done with the Reisman character. Lee Marvins age clearly showed which hurt the picture. Then to make matters even worse Ernest Borgnine and Richard Jaeckel reprise their roles from the 1967 film. Unlike the original the convicts are colorless, the mission pointless and the end cartoonish. Watch the original and consider the story ended when Charles Bronsons Joseph Wladislaw says at the conclusion `Killing Generals could get to be a habit with me.'

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    • Anecdotes
      Television movie debut for Lee Marvin. This is despite appearing in a number of television series episodes and the movie À bout portant (1964), which was originally made for television but ended up being released theatrically because it was thought to be too violent for TV.
    • Gaffes
      The Uniform Code of Military Justice did not take effect until 1951 yet it is mentioned several times in the movie.
    • Citations

      Arlen Dregors: [telling his story] We were on patrol in this village. There we five men. Officers. They had this young girl trapped. They each took their turns with her. None of us did nothin' to stop 'em. You see, they were white officers, we were negro soldiers. When they finished, they got into their Jeep and... just drove away. Something just happened inside me.

      Maj. John Reisman: You hit a lieutenant in the back of the head at 220 yards. That's a nice shot.

      Arlen Dregors: The Army didn't think so.

      Maj. John Reisman: But they're prejudiced. I'm not.

    • Connexions
      Edited from Les douze salopards (1967)

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 4 février 1985 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Français
      • Allemand
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Les douze salopards 2
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Horsted Keynes Railway Station, Bluebell Railway, Sussex, Angleterre, Royaume-Uni(Railway scene with Lee Marvin on maintenance trolley)
    • Société de production
      • MGM/UA Television
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    • Durée
      • 1h 35min(95 min)
    • Couleur
      • Color
    • Mixage
      • Stereo
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.33 : 1

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