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Le Silence Autour de Christine M.

Titre original : De stilte rond Christine M.
  • 1982
  • R
  • 1h 32min
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6,7/10
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MA NOTE
Edda Barends, Nelly Frijda, Cox Habbema, and Henriëtte Tol in Le Silence Autour de Christine M. (1982)
Drame

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueThree women of no previous acquaintance suddenly kill a male shopkeeper in the middle of the day. The female psychiatrist assigned to the case sets out to understand why.Three women of no previous acquaintance suddenly kill a male shopkeeper in the middle of the day. The female psychiatrist assigned to the case sets out to understand why.Three women of no previous acquaintance suddenly kill a male shopkeeper in the middle of the day. The female psychiatrist assigned to the case sets out to understand why.

  • Réalisation
    • Marleen Gorris
  • Scénario
    • Marleen Gorris
  • Casting principal
    • Edda Barends
    • Nelly Frijda
    • Henriëtte Tol
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,7/10
    1,3 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Marleen Gorris
    • Scénario
      • Marleen Gorris
    • Casting principal
      • Edda Barends
      • Nelly Frijda
      • Henriëtte Tol
    • 30avis d'utilisateurs
    • 19avis des critiques
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    • Récompenses
      • 3 victoires et 2 nominations au total

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    Edda Barends
    Edda Barends
    • Huisvrouw
    Nelly Frijda
    • Koffiejuffrouw
    Henriëtte Tol
    Henriëtte Tol
    • Secretaresse
    Cox Habbema
    Cox Habbema
    • Psychiater
    Eddie Brugman
    • Echtgenoot
    • (as Eddy Brugman)
    Hans Croiset
    • Rechter
    Erik Plooyer
    • Officier van Justitie
    Anna van Beers
    Eric Besseling
    Noa Cohen
    Kees Coolen
    • Inspecteur
    Edgar Danz
    Diana Dobbelman
    • Vrouw van Psychiater
    Miranda Frijda
    Frederik de Groot
    Frederik de Groot
    Noortje Jansen
    René Lobo
    Sally Loswijk
    • Réalisation
      • Marleen Gorris
    • Scénario
      • Marleen Gorris
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    This is a film about power, domination and oppression.

    To call this movie hate literature is one thing, but the analogy used referencing Jews and Nazis is completely not applicable here. This is a film about power, domination, and oppression, all three of which men exercise over women in our society. One would have to live in a bubble to say that Jews hold the same position over non-Jews or Nazis (or did pre-WWII)! As a Jew, I find your comment mildly offensive, and as a man (while it is always difficult to recognize one's privilege), I find this film to be an amazing critique of patriarchy. While murder may not be the solution, this film shows the extraordinary way in which 3 women who have been beaten down their whole lives (and have nothing to lose) attempt to fight back against an enemy that is unbeatable. The laughter at the end of this film proves just who gets it and who doesn't. PS- I've heard that in some places during the initial screenings of this film, women in the theaters actually broke out in laughter with the women on screen during the court scene....
    abt-5

    A question of intent...

    After watching this film, I was forced to come search for what others had taken from it. I was shocked and jarred, however, at the heteroglossia present. SM-4 from Alabama wrote that, "Everyone assumes they must be insane, because to admit otherwise is to admit that the world is a very bad place for women, indeed." While it may be possible to interpret the film in this way and it may even be the intended interpretation, it strikes me as disingenuous. Though the court and justice system's appearing inability to imagine these women as competent is a form of sexism, it does not point to a "world (that) is a very bad place for women." Indeed, three white men not too long ago in America might have met in a store with a black man and beat him to death. According to SM-4's logic, the world would be a very bad place for white men also.

    Just because one racial group, religious group, or gender strikes out at those whom they feel oppressed, threatened, or harmed by, that does not prove that those feeling of oppression, injury, or injustice are valid. In some cases, mitigating evidence may exist. In A Question of Silence, however, I found none.
    9bkrauser-81-311064

    A Truly Great Movie

    "Why aren't there any truly great movies directed by women!" This is a phrase I hear more often than I'd like to admit. I also hesitate to admit, that once I exhaust the usual "woke" responses (historical discrimination, patriarchy, etc.) there always comes the sad realization that, yeah, there really aren't a lot of movies, directed by women, that can be considered indisputably "great". There are a couple on the roster in need of cultural evaluation; Carroll Ballard's Fly Away Home (1996) and anything directed by Lynne Ramsay definitely rank at the top of my list. Yet thus far the critical consensus has been there's no Citizen Kane (1941) for women behind the director's chair (but here's to hoping), and the popular consensus has pretty much been - "wasn't The Hurt Locker (2008) a thing once?"

    Yet if one were to take off the blinders of popular, American- centric cinema, and go looking for a bit, one might find the works of Marleen Gorris, specifically her austere gem of a first feature A Question of Silence. The plot: a simple setup for a simple movie. Three women are charged with murdering a male shopkeeper and a psychiatrist (Habbema) is tasked with determining whether they're sane enough to stand trial.

    The struggle to understand why the murder occurred in a flash of violence provides the foundational aspects of the film. The movie cuts back and forth between the psychiatrist's prodding interrogations with the scene of the crime which, as the title suggests is largely without dialogue. We figure out early how the scene played out - we even catch a glimpse at important details before the psychiatrist realizes she's being lied to. She gets unreliable narration from sullen secretary Andrea (Tol), cackling nonsense from lonely waitress Ann (Frijda) and complete boo from catatonic housewife Christine (Barends). Yet we, we get everything.

    The context of the film is forever present from the opening scene - the psychiatrist trying to get the attention of her lawyer husband (Brugman), to the films flummoxing resolution in the courtroom. Its sense of justice in the face of indifference and neglect sets itself over the story like a gossamer and sustains itself in a way that defies description. The story, it's players, it's simple musical cues are so sparse yet so fierce and brilliant it approaches being an angry visual haiku.

    The film's stillness and clinical lack of ornamentation only adds to its rather nerving wit. It sets up its meticulous visual prose like the calm cadence of a damning speech then lets you fill in its devastating meaning. Every frame, every camera angle is a repudiation of patriarchy, with the movie's constant microaggressions providing context and the murder providing a bloody and pertinent focal point. It should be noted that the murder is often described yet its remains completely unseen. Thus we're forced to figuratively pick up the pieces for ourselves even as the deed is being done.

    Gorris's overall message remains subversive while in plain sight; what remains obvious to some, will likely breed bewilderment for others. What remains clear is Gorris's first feature has more vitality and immediacy, than most filmmakers could ever hope to conjure out of their entire ouevre. She later fine-tuned and further explored feminist themes in Broken Mirrors (1984) and Antonia's Line (1995) though A Question of Silence remains her most concentrated dose of inspiring social radicalism. This is filmmaking not just as art but as a n incendiary device - one whose sense of empowerment leaves no prisoners.
    8lawiay

    thought provoking film

    I just watched this film for a law class and wanted to briefly defend it, in light of the previously posted comment by another user.

    I think the comparison of feminist reaction to male dominance in this movie, with anti-Semitism of the Nazi era, is inappropriate and not logically founded. Anti-Semitism and Jewish persecution in Nazi Germany was an example of social/religious bigotry, intolerance, and violence perpetrated by the political majority against a political and religious minority. It was based on a history of escalating persecution spanning centuries. By contrast, this movie concerns the emergent hostile sentiments of a social/political minority group, to their perceived oppression by the social/political majority.

    The movie dates from the 1980's and perhaps both suffers and benefits from this fact -- it looks somewhat dated, but the social climate of that era is important to understanding the movie. Europe of the 1970s and 1980s, much like the US, was still very resistant to even the idea that sexism really existed or was a problem. The courts were actively fleshing out the parameters of sexual rights and protections -- legally carving out the nuances of sexual harassment, sex discrimination, and reproductive choice law.

    The film is basically an extended commentary, arguably controversial, on the repression of women in a male dominated society. In this regard, the message is possibly too strongly stated -- three women, having finally had enough of silently accepting sexism and male domination, suddenly snap and brutally murder a male sales clerk in cold blood. They feel no remorse, and no men in the movie can even begin to comprehend the very idea of sexism or its effect on women. However, to compare the feminist sentiments of the film to Nazi-ism, is not only unfair, but is an offensive and reactionary over-statement of disagreement with these same feminist sentiments.
    9portobellobelle

    Powerful and challenging

    Very powerful and thoughtful. Much superior to Gorris' more-acclaimed Antonia's Line, in my opinion. This film has none of the cutesiness of Antonia but all of the thoughtfulness and thematic weight. The theme is a subtle examination of the roles of men and women in Dutch society, and I guess it could apply to many societies. The film has a viewpoint, but it problematizes and complicates matters so that it's impossible for the viewer to blindly accept that viewpoint. It examines SUBTLE discrimination and dehumanization.

    The only frustration I had was the fact that the copy I viewed did not give subtitles to a lot of the dialogue--e.g., a woman listens to the radio for about a minute, but non-Dutch speakers (like myself) don't understand any of it, and I'm guessing that with a filmmaker as careful as Gorris, this dialogue is important.

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      The first plant that Nelly Frijda throws during her tantrum can be seen hitting the lens of the camera.
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      Featured in Visions: Cinema, Cinemas/Q & A with Paul Schrader/A Film Comment by Angela Carter (1982)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 18 février 1982 (Pays-Bas)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Pays-Bas
    • Langues
      • Néerlandais
      • Anglais
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      • A Question of Silence
    • Société de production
      • Sigma Film Productions
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      • 300 000 NLG (estimé)
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    • Durée
      1 heure 32 minutes
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      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.66 : 1

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