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L'Œuf du serpent

Titre original : The Serpent's Egg
  • 1977
  • 12
  • 1h 59min
NOTE IMDb
6,6/10
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L'Œuf du serpent (1977)
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Suite au suicide de son frère adoré et aux meurtres de connaissances plus que lointaines, Abel Rosenberg tente de découvrir la vérité tout en affrontant la dépression, l'alcoolisme et l'anti... Tout lireSuite au suicide de son frère adoré et aux meurtres de connaissances plus que lointaines, Abel Rosenberg tente de découvrir la vérité tout en affrontant la dépression, l'alcoolisme et l'antisémitisme.Suite au suicide de son frère adoré et aux meurtres de connaissances plus que lointaines, Abel Rosenberg tente de découvrir la vérité tout en affrontant la dépression, l'alcoolisme et l'antisémitisme.

  • Réalisation
    • Ingmar Bergman
  • Scénario
    • Ingmar Bergman
  • Casting principal
    • Liv Ullmann
    • David Carradine
    • Gert Fröbe
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    • Réalisation
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Scénario
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Casting principal
      • Liv Ullmann
      • David Carradine
      • Gert Fröbe
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    Liv Ullmann
    Liv Ullmann
    • Manuela Rosenberg
    David Carradine
    David Carradine
    • Abel Rosenberg
    Gert Fröbe
    Gert Fröbe
    • Inspector Bauer
    • (as Gert Froebe)
    Heinz Bennent
    Heinz Bennent
    • Hans Vergerus
    Toni Berger
    Toni Berger
    • Mr. Rosenberg
    Christian Berkel
    Christian Berkel
    • Student
    Paula Braend
    • Mrs. Hemse
    Erna Brünell
    • Mrs. Rosenberg
    • (as Erna Bruenell)
    Paul Bürks
    • Cabaret Comedian
    • (as Paul Buerks)
    Gaby Dohm
    Gaby Dohm
    • Woman with baby
    Emil Feist
    • Miser
    Kai Fischer
    Kai Fischer
    • Prostitute
    Georg Hartmann
    • Hollinger
    Edith Heerdegen
    • Mrs. Holle
    Klaus Hoffmann
    • Commando Announcer
    Grischa Huber
    • Stella
    Volkert Kraeft
    Volkert Kraeft
    • Commando Leader
    Gunther Malzacher
    Gunther Malzacher
    • Husband
    • Réalisation
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Scénario
      • Ingmar Bergman
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    7Quinoa1984

    like one of the beings in the mad doctor's experiments, this film is a tortured, deconstructive kind of movie, never too boring

    One can look at Ingmar Bergman's the Serpent's Egg as being many things, but it should not be looked at through the same prism that one looks at say Through a Glass Darkly or Scenes from a Marriage. This is Bergman being 'cinematic', and for the lone moment of a career spent with low-budget film-making and theater as his passions, a big-budget, a Hollywood star, and a sprawling canvas to work on, was at his finger-tips. It's also one of his few shots at not only an 'homage' kind of movie, but also one in English (one of only two). So it's the dark horse (no pun intended) when compared to the more one-on-one based films. This time the star, David Carradine, is not only an acrobat, but also in a city where the environment is grim, to the point of a scarcity of hope amid the post WW1 German cityscape. It's not the kind of film, in other words, that'll make money in the mass US market coming off the high of Star Wars (though it's been said that this film did make back it's money in Europe and then some). It's the kind of uncompromising vision that goes for broke, and it's a fascinating journey.

    Carradine, who is at his best with a certain style and down-played quality that keeps him still cool today, is an American in Berlin, where his brother's just died in a rather grotesque fashion. This puts a certain immediate marker of doom over him and his sister in law, played by Liv Ullman (if, for no other reason to see the film, it's for her work, as usual). Over the span of a week (surprisingly so, if not for the voice over one might feel it being longer), amid the rain and nights and drunken stumbles and over-heated moments, Abel Rosenberg tries to deal with all that's going on. But there are stranger things lurking ahead with his upcoming job. This story is dealt with by Bergman in a curious way- it SEEMS a little longer at times, but it doesn't lose a certain momentum, of stripping away its character's defenses bare. Even Carradine, an actor who's mostly had a career as a larger-than-life kind of persona, gets intense with his work here.

    Where Bergman gets entangled in everything he's got going on is a sense of structure to it. It's not the kind of 'soul-searching, hell if I know if God can help' film, but one more connected to the perverse, lurid qualities of the control some people could have over these people at this point of time in the world. One could say it's connected stylistically with the films of Murnau and Lang, however I would argue that more than half the time I did still feel like I was seeing a Bergman film, with his part n parcel cinematographer Sven Nykvist expressing greatly what is there in the huge set constructed of 1922 Berlin. And because of this, there's still the close-ups, and the surreality that's induced. But because there's so much to work with, with sometimes overwhelming scenes (like when Carradine walks into that bar, loaded with people, compact and tight, or whenever there's a chase or 'danger' kind of moment for Rosenberg, or just having to deal with large crowds or difficult lighting set-ups), the narrative thread gets tangled up. The opening shot of the people walking in slow-motion is brilliant, yet I didn't feel that same brilliance in the film.

    Several directors hit this kind of moment in careers, where a larger-than-usual concept is provided by the appropriate budget. That it's in English is unusual, and though Bergman is functional in the language, one can tell there's not the same fluidity in the writing at times. However I don't discredit the Serpent's Egg as this horrible quagmire of a picture, as I was almost led on to believe. It still contains some extraordinary stuff, like the Cabaret scenes, as weird and compelling as some of the stuff in the Silence. Or the terror instilled when Heinz Bennent's character shows Rosenberg the 'footage' towards the end of the film. But it's also one of the more difficult films of Bergman's I've seen, that moves at a pace that's post-modern, and not too steeped in the 20's (that is one of its strong points at times in theme), while resisting going for the easy, Hollywood big-budget kind of movie-making. 7.5/10
    5oliver-177

    Soylent Green meets Cabaret

    The Serpent's Egg is almost universally panned because it bears the signature of Ingmar Bergman, yet it doesn't feel much like a Bergman movie - except in a couple of flashes.

    Most of the movie is set in dark, humid and chilly inter-war Berlin, where the protagonist gets ever closer to a sinister revelation. This side of the movie feels a bit like another bleak 70s artifact, Soylent Green. When David Carradine gets - at last - hired as an archivist in a sinister clinic, the viewer's interest is piqued.

    However, Carradine is saddled with a sister-in-law, Liv Ullman, who comes along with a different set of scenes, that recall Cabaret without the acrid verve of the original. Liv Ullman tries hard, but she is truly miscast. Jane Birkin would have been perfect in this role.

    The dialog is poorly written and gives the movie the choppy quality that everyone has objected to. The lines sound translated, unnatural, and David Carradine can't be faulted for sounding lost.

    The big budget is well spent, and the film is not boring, nor pretentious. Some effects are in poor taste (the opening credits, and an excruciating scene in a brothel).

    I suspect that The Serpent's Egg would have a better reputation today if it had been signed by a lesser director, say, George Pan Cosmatos. Without changing a single shot, it would be remembered as an interesting attempt at something different.
    rixrex

    Well done allegory for events leading to the rise of Hitler.

    The title, The Serpent's Egg, had me wondering for a moment until I realized that it did not refer to the the Doctor and his bizarre experiments nor to Abel and his misery, but to the encapsulated Germany of the 1920s and the environment that led to Hitler's ascent in the 1930s. That is, Germany being the 'egg', Hitler and the Nazis as the 'Serpent', and the environment as the embryo of the egg.

    In many ways, this is a cynical film, in that it attempts to show that degradation, fear and loss of life and livelihood is sometimes stronger than humanity and even love. Isn't this true about Germany in the 1920s, and other nations at other times as well? We only have to look at ourselves after the attacks of 9/11 to see a time when fear overcame reason. Fear allowed us to meekly accept the chipping away of our own civil rights and privacy, and also government sponsored torture.

    It also gives us a glimpse at one of Hitler's truisms, which is that if he could have a person at age 7, then that person would be a Nazi for life. The experimenting Doctor re-states this in his observations that the sons and daughters of the defeated German populace will be the ones who create the new German society, of which he already is a part with his inhumane human experiments.

    Of course, all this is done with hindsight, so how can it be wrong? It can't, but then it's still a good review of a period in Germany that many Americans know nothing about, and should learn if they want the answers to the question of how Naziism came to be. It wasn't just some sort of aberration never seen in history before nor repeated.
    7runamokprods

    Better than it's reputation

    While not a masterpiece, this is also far from the mess most critics took it for. An intelligent failure (or modest success) Bergman looks at Germany in the 20s as laying the groundwork for Hitler and the Nazis.

    Liv Ullman is terrific, as always. And if David Carradine is only good, not great, he certainly didn't deserve the critical attacks he received. The nature of his character is a man so locked in passivity as to be enigmatic. You might not like that kind of character, but it's certainly not the actor's fault for carrying it out well!

    Yes, some of it is slow, and some a bit obvious, but those charges could also be leveled against some Bergman films labeled masterpieces. As a cautionary tale of where we were once before, and could end up again, I've certainly seen far worse. It has some truly chilling moments. And I think seeing it again may reveal even more
    8Xstal

    Through a Looking Glass Darkly...

    Does Liv Ullmann ever do less than brilliant, does Ingmar Bergman never surprise?

    Depression hit post Great War Germany, the moods, the sets, the atmospheres almost have you reaching for a bottle of whatever takes your troubles away from the very off, but also wondering how David Carradine might improve, or at least maintain the high level the director's portfolio had achieved to date (albeit acknowledging the Elliot Gould effect of The Touch). The answer is he doesn't and, while he does scrape through until the end, you're left reflecting on the fantastic selection of actors from Sweden the maestro deployed to such ground breaking effect through his lifetime behind the lens.

    An intriguing story that gathers pace towards the end.

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    • Anecdotes
      This is director Ingmar Bergman's only big-budget production. It was made at the height of Bergman's worldwide popularity as an arthouse filmmaker and produced by Dino De Laurentiis, who insisted on shooting in the English language and casting an American star to make it more appealing for the American market. Unfortunately, the film got mostly bad reviews and failed to generate any commercial interest in America, but it did respectable business in Europe.
    • Gaffes
      The Nazi-looking thugs that are beating up people are wearing Model 1943 German army caps and 1940s style clothing. This film is supposed to take place in the 1920s.
    • Citations

      Abel Rosenberg: I wake up from a nightmare and find that real life is worse than the dream.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Away from Home (2004)
    • Bandes originales
      Das Lied vom süssen Bonbon
      (uncredited)

      Music by Rolf A. Wilhelm

      Lyrics by Rolf A. Wilhelm and Kurt Wilhelm

      Performed by Liv Ullmann

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 7 décembre 1977 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Allemagne de l'Ouest
      • États-Unis
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Allemand
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Serpent's Egg
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Münchner Straße, Backlot, Bavaria Studios, Bavariafilmplatz 7, Geiselgasteig, Grünwald, Bavaria, Allemagne(Studio)
    • Sociétés de production
      • Dino De Laurentiis Company
      • Rialto Film
      • Bavaria Film
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    • Budget
      • 12 000 000 DEM (estimé)
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 39 238 $US
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    • Durée
      1 heure 59 minutes
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    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.66 : 1

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