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Rouges et blancs

Titre original : Csillagosok, katonák
  • 1967
  • Not Rated
  • 1h 30min
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Rouges et blancs (1967)
DrameGuerre

Pendant la guerre civile russe, l'Armée rouge, aidée par les communistes hongrois et l'Armée blanche, s'affrontent pour le contrôle de la région entourant la Volga.Pendant la guerre civile russe, l'Armée rouge, aidée par les communistes hongrois et l'Armée blanche, s'affrontent pour le contrôle de la région entourant la Volga.Pendant la guerre civile russe, l'Armée rouge, aidée par les communistes hongrois et l'Armée blanche, s'affrontent pour le contrôle de la région entourant la Volga.

  • Réalisation
    • Miklós Jancsó
  • Scénario
    • Gyula Hernádi
    • Giorgi Mdivani
    • Miklós Jancsó
  • Casting principal
    • Krystyna Mikolajewska
    • Mikhail Kozakov
    • Tatyana Konyukhova
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    • Réalisation
      • Miklós Jancsó
    • Scénario
      • Gyula Hernádi
      • Giorgi Mdivani
      • Miklós Jancsó
    • Casting principal
      • Krystyna Mikolajewska
      • Mikhail Kozakov
      • Tatyana Konyukhova
    • 37avis d'utilisateurs
    • 30avis des critiques
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    • Récompenses
      • 1 victoire et 2 nominations au total

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    Krystyna Mikolajewska
    Krystyna Mikolajewska
    • Olga növér
    Mikhail Kozakov
    Mikhail Kozakov
    • Vörös parancsnok
    • (as Mihail Kozakov)
    Tatyana Konyukhova
    Tatyana Konyukhova
    • Elizaveta
    • (as Tatjana Konyuhova)
    Viktor Avdyushko
    Viktor Avdyushko
    • Matróz
    • (as Viktor Avgyusko)
    András Kozák
    András Kozák
    • László
    Bolot Beyshenaliev
    Bolot Beyshenaliev
    • Csingiz
    • (as Bolot Bejsenaliev)
    Tibor Molnár
    • Fekete András
    Jácint Juhász
    • István
    József Madaras
    József Madaras
    • Magyar parancsnok
    Nikita Mikhalkov
    Nikita Mikhalkov
    • Fehér tiszt
    • (as Nyikita Mihalkov)
    Gleb Strizhenov
    Gleb Strizhenov
    • Fehér parancsnok
    • (as Gleb Sztrizsenov)
    Sergey Nikonenko
    Sergey Nikonenko
    • Kozák tiszt
    • (as Szergej Nyikonyenko)
    Vladimir Prokofyev
    Vladimir Prokofyev
      Anatoli Yabbarov
      • Cselpaszov a fekete légió parancsnoka
      • (as Anatolij Jabbarov)
      Valeri Glebov
        Vitaliy Konyaev
        Vitaliy Konyaev
          Evgeniy Karelskikh
          Evgeniy Karelskikh
            Mika Ardova
            • Réalisation
              • Miklós Jancsó
            • Scénario
              • Gyula Hernádi
              • Giorgi Mdivani
              • Miklós Jancsó
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            chaos-rampant

            Samsara

            As a muted treatment of the ephemeral moral horrors of war, this is good and will appeal to an audience tired of Spielberg - or the equally histrionic depictions of carnage of Russian war films.

            Something else appears to me greatly, something of specific nature here about visual (cinematic) presentation of a story. And that is because it seems like a smart , elegant solution to the problem of portraying what I call disembodied consciousness; keeping the viewer consistently tethered to the point-of-view of a character is hard enough for most filmmakers, but to break free of that and send us scudding through the air of the story? While keeping us engaged in story? Few manage, very few.

            It is this, I believe, that viewers appreciate when they praise the 'hypnotic' qualities of someone like Tarkovsky, this ability to start 'in character' and slowly expand ourselves to hover out of self to where multiple visions are possible - usually the world of story and sense, plus the mechanisms transmuting the world into a story. If you are positioned the right way as a viewer, this can achieve a feeling of ecstacy.

            And this guy is using Tarkovsky's camera to excellent effect, and knows just how to position the viewer. What does this mean?

            His first job is to remove hard storytelling limits. Which war this is. Who is killing who. Who to be rooting for. What is the cause that justifies all this, if any. We can surmise, but staying within clean boundaries is not the focus. In place of that, he supplies a more fluid notion of hyperreality - things happen presumably as they would if you were there, explanations are absent, but the consequences seem real. You may not know just who is out to kill you, but you know someone is. This is a world with angry blood coursing through its veins.

            Now for the actual, ecstatic expansion of narrative limits. It is simply superb the way he does it, and still seems novel and powerful to me.

            The normal viewing mode is that already within the first couple of minutes of a film, we scan the frame for a protagonist to latch onto, trusting he will be our assigned avatar in the world of the film. The filmmaker provides expressive enough faces that we implicitly recognize as such, that we follow for just the right amount of 'real' time to invest into, then suddenly they are removed from the world, maybe to resurface later. Characters are flippantly ordered shot, make narrow escapes, are summarily discovered again, and so on.

            And a third expansion is of the way we see and navigate this world, by having the camera trace circles around the story and float in and out of corridors in the air, disembodied from any character.

            Though still in the experimental stage, this is great work.

            You have bloodshed as your base layer, what every other war film works from.

            You have this force in man, in the gears of the universe, that moves him to kill which there is no rhyme to, beyond the perpetuating of motion.

            And you have that motion so powerful, we see that in the frantic running of prisoners to escape the firing squad, it enters the human world and mindlessly tears anchors from the ground, and sends our eye skidding to the next turn of the world having stable form again and tears at it, and with each groundless , spinning turn of this ballet, we float farther and farther away to where it is all an abstract blueprint.

            Fluid hyperreality, narrative, and eye - each one placing you a step further from reasoning with this, but deeper in the abstract experience of not just life, of cosmic dimensions in the transitory dance of everything coming into being and going again.

            Humans are vanished and reinstated and vanish again, with death as flippantly decided as someone dismounting a horse, as though it's all a part of some inscrutable game to the amusement of capricious gods.

            Better yet, this is samsara; the cycle of suffering and defilements, causing eternal transmigration to no purpose.
            rduncan

            One of the best anti-war movies ever made

            This is a great, great film. It's very unusual and not geared to all tastes. It follows differing groups of soldiers as they fight each other and take prisoners, or evade capture, or hide in villages. There is no plot. You simply follow one group of soldiers until something happens and you follow another group. You feel sympathy for the soldiers; until they commit a heinous act, and you hate them. It's really about the arbitrarious of war and how it reduces men to animals. Not for the faint of heart, it is nonetheless the best antiwar movie I've seen.
            8ygh

            not everyone is supposed to understand art...

            Sure it's boring! Sure it's confusing! Sure it's stupid! ...But that's what war is all about, isn't it? Well...boring, that is if you have the chance to live long enough...

            This film is a piece of art. See how the camera moves, floats, count the shots (about 300, compared to a 600-800 norm), Admire the long takes, try to guess who's going to live through the nonsense of this war...

            Who didn't understand that the only thing that this film is promoting is peace and not war nor communism? And, excuse me, but...where did you see the propaganda exactly?
            10LunarPoise

            stunning and disturbing

            Miklós Jancsó reduces war to its ignoble essence. Combatants swagger then cower. There are long periods when nothing very much happens, then a life is lost on a whim. Pettiness and officiousness abound. No transcendent causes, no rousing speeches, just ebb and tide, advantage then defeat. There are two sides, they fight. What more do you need to know?

            The sweep of the camera is majestic, taking in panoramic vistas filled with struggle and slaughter. Thematically, this is the cinematic embodiment of the final lines from Matthew Arnold's poem Dover Beach:

            And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night

            Breathtaking in its conception and philosophical premise, this is an anti-war film that appeals directly to our current war-torn times. A masterpiece.
            7gavin6942

            Banality of War

            In 1919, Hungarian Communists aid the Bolsheviks' defeat of Czarists, the Whites. Near the Volga, a monastery and a field hospital are held by one side then the other.

            Rather than shooting a hagiographic account of the birth of Soviet Communism, Jancsó produced a profoundly anti-heroic film that depicts the senseless brutality of the Russian Civil War specifically and all armed combat in general. There are no heroes here, just death after death for seemingly no reason.

            To no one's surprise, the film was not well received in the Soviet Union, where it was first re-edited to put a more heroic spin on the war for its premiere and then banned. However, in Hungary and the West it was favorably received and had a theatrical release in many countries. It remains one of Jancsó's most widely seen and admired films, although audiences often find it exceedingly difficult to follow because there really is no plot or protagonist.

            Besides the clear anti-war message, the film also has some incredible cinematography, with Tamás Somló's camera moving in and out of the action in very fluid motions. It seems very much ahead of its time and calls to mind the much later work of Seamus McGarvey in "Atonement" (2007).

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            • Anecdotes
              Included among the "1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die", edited by Steven Schneider.
            • Connexions
              Featured in Fejezetek a film történetéböl: A magyar film 1957-1970 (1990)
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              Music by Vincent Scotto

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            • Date de sortie
              • 30 août 1968 (France)
            • Pays d’origine
              • Hongrie
              • Union soviétique
            • Langues
              • Hongrois
              • Russe
            • Aussi connu sous le nom de
              • The Red and the White
            • Lieux de tournage
              • Hongrie
            • Sociétés de production
              • MAFILM Stúdió 4
              • Mosfilm
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            • Durée
              1 heure 30 minutes
            • Couleur
              • Black and White
            • Mixage
              • Mono
            • Rapport de forme
              • 2.35 : 1

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