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Les forcenés

Titre original : Gli uomini dal passo pesante
  • 1965
  • 1h 45min
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5,8/10
297
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Les forcenés (1965)
DrameOccidentalWestern spaghetti

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueCivil War soldier returns home to his father who can't accept the loss of the Confederates. Serious conflicts arouse which split the family.Civil War soldier returns home to his father who can't accept the loss of the Confederates. Serious conflicts arouse which split the family.Civil War soldier returns home to his father who can't accept the loss of the Confederates. Serious conflicts arouse which split the family.

  • Réalisation
    • Albert Band
    • Mario Sequi
  • Scénario
    • Albert Band
    • Ugo Liberatore
    • Will Cook
  • Casting principal
    • Gordon Scott
    • Joseph Cotten
    • James Mitchum
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,8/10
    297
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Albert Band
      • Mario Sequi
    • Scénario
      • Albert Band
      • Ugo Liberatore
      • Will Cook
    • Casting principal
      • Gordon Scott
      • Joseph Cotten
      • James Mitchum
    • 7avis d'utilisateurs
    • 1avis de critique
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    Gordon Scott
    Gordon Scott
    • Lon Cordeen
    Joseph Cotten
    Joseph Cotten
    • Temple Cordeen
    James Mitchum
    James Mitchum
    • Hoby Cordeen
    Ilaria Occhini
    • Edith Wickett
    Franco Nero
    Franco Nero
    • Charley Garvey
    • (as Frank Nero)
    Claudio Gora
    Claudio Gora
    • Fred Wickett
    • (as Emil Jordan)
    Emma Valloni
    • Bess Cordeen
    • (as Emy Cordeen)
    Carla Calò
    • Mrs. Temple Cordeen
    • (as Carroll Brown)
    Muriel Franklin
    • Alice Cordeen
    Franco Balducci
    • Pete Wiley
    Giovanni Ivan Scratuglia
    • Adrian Cordeen
    • (as Ivan Andrews)
    Georges Lycan
    Georges Lycan
    • Longfellow Wiley
    • (as George Lycan)
    Pasquale Simeoli
    • Sheriff
    • (as Lino Desmond)
    Dario Michaelis
    • Bert Cordeen
    Edith Peters
    • Emma
    Romano Puppo
    Romano Puppo
    • Paine Cordeen
    • (as Roman Barrett)
    Aldo Cecconi
    Aldo Cecconi
    • Jim Hennessy
    • (as Harris Gerard)
    Giovanni Cianfriglia
      • Réalisation
        • Albert Band
        • Mario Sequi
      • Scénario
        • Albert Band
        • Ugo Liberatore
        • Will Cook
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      6ma-cortes

      Good and agreeable Spaghetti Western that details the dissolution of a despotic cattle baron's family

      A rebel father called Temple Cordeen (Joseph Cotten) and son (Gordon Scott) split over the hanging of a Yankee during post-Civil War . As a Civil War soldier named Lon Cordeen returns home to his father who can't accept the loss of the Confederates. Serious conflicts arouse which split the family . As Temple Cordeen swears vengeance on those who have taken his lands during war . And the journalist's daughter (Ilaria Occhini)seeks justice against Temple , whom she blames for his death .

      Italian made spaghetti that contains thrills , action and lots of gratuitous gunplay . The picture with no much plot displays elements of Greek tragedy and a touching finale . There is plenty of action in the movie , guaranteeing shootouts, fights or stunts every few minutes . This Spaghetti was filmed in 1965 , a notorious year in the development of European western that almost doubled since former year with movies mostly filmed in Spain and Italy . It results to be a peculiar version about confrontation between father and sons ; theme to be treated in other Hollywood films such as ¨Broken Lance¨(1954) by Edward Dmytryck with Spencer Tracy as daddy and sons as Robert Wagner , Earl Holliman , Hugh O'Brian ; and previously in ¨House of strangers¨ (1949) by Joseph L Mankiewicz with Edward G Robinson , Luther Adler and Richard Conte . Joseph Cotten is magnificent as the ruthless wealthy owner who sadly contends his sons . Franco Nero , in a smaller part that you'd expected from his billing , in nevertheless excellent as a good guy who marries Temple's daughter . There appears several familiar faces from Spaghetti such as Franco Balducci , Romano Puppo , Giovanni Ivan Scratuglia and Giovanni Cianfriglia . It packs a mediocre cinematography by Alvaro Mancori , also producer , being necessary an urgent and perfect remastering . Musical score well composed and conducted by Angelo Francesco Lavagnino is impressive ; including catching leitmotif and enjoyable sounds from Western .

      The motion picture was professionally directed by Albert Band and Mario Sequi . A veteran filmmaker, Albert Band is one of Hollywood's most prolific directors who started his career in the early 50s. He began financing a number of motion pictures through the seventies and eighties and helped his son, Charles Band, bring together his own production company, 'Empire Pictures', in the early eighties. Upon the collapse of Empire Pictures in the early nineties, Band continued to work with his son and help bring a number of low-budget and medium budget films to the Hollywood screen and direct to video releases. Band directed some Western such as ¨She came to the Valley¨, ¨Massacre at Grand Canyon¨, ¨The Young Guns¨ and this ¨The Tramplers ¨ at his best ; furthermore , he made terror , action and of all kind of genres .
      3bkoganbing

      Another Rebel Who Doesn't Believe In Surrenders

      Like Ethan Edwards in that much better western The Searchers, Joseph Cotten's Temple Cordeen doesn't believe in surrendering. He's taken no notice of the surrender at Appomattox and in fact when we first meet him, he's hanging a Yankee journalist who had the temerity to tell the black people on Cotten's Texas ranch they weren't slaves any more. At the same time his oldest son Gordon Scott comes home just in time to see the lynching and he's appalled by what dear old dad has done. This is how The Tramplers begins.

      Joseph Cotten before the Civil War was the local Ben Cartwright in his corner of Texas with five sons, two daughters and a host of other relatives. But by the end of the war, he and most of his family are acting more like the Clantons. Scott and youngest brother James Mitchum are against the father along with their two sisters. The three middle boys, three really putrid specimens of humanity stick with Cotten.

      Elements of The Searchers, The Texans, Saddle The Wind, and The Westerner are to be found in The Tramplers. I'm sure that Scott, one of the people who played Tarzan, Cotten, and Jim Mitchum, took their European vacation and their paychecks and said their lines and made sure the checks cleared the bank before saying them. I'm not a fan of European westerns and The Tramplers is not a film to convince me to be one.
      7buttonwillow

      Stylized western of dark family drama

      I obtained a used VHS version of this film. The film quality was a bit degraded but I still enjoyed the film. My copy appeared sepia-toned throughout with some great landscape shots. The movie is a real horse opera with a haunting, melancholy mood. The lead actor does a competent job but the real standouts are Joseph Cotton as the evil father and Jim Mitchum as the troubled younger son. Cotton is a man whose character has been warped by slavery and the War Between the States. After the war, he is unable to let go of the past, which causes his children to break away from him and strike out on their own with mixed success. The wife and two daughters and a female love interest only have small roles but they manage to convey a lot of emotion with the little screen time they're given. This film is worth a look if you enjoy westerns. The style is somewhere between a standard American shoot 'em up and a Sergio Leone effort.
      4coltras35

      Gordon Scott's last film

      After the war of secession, the aging Cordeen, who owns thousands of acres in Texas, rules his numerous and quarrelsome sons with an iron hand. He sends them out to deal with the threat of the representatives from the North. However, not all the sons share his unlimited hatred for the Northerners.

      A rather odd western, because it comes across like a Bonanza episode stretched out to a feature film length but with spaghetti sauce modestly sprinkled over it. It's quite sluggish, but just about watchable due to Joseph Cotten's performance as a destructive Southern patriarch in a post civil war scenario. It's good to see Gordon Scott in a rare non-loin cloth donning role, and though he looks ill at ease, he does well as the son of Cotten, who doesn't agree with his cruel ways. Pitched as a family tragedy, this western has its moments, capturing the aftermath of war quite well, but it's a little too drab, though. Good for a one time watch at least. There's a despondent and haunting aura in this film.
      5Steve_Nyland

      Saturn Devours His Children

      While credited as an Italian/French co-production, Albert Band and Mario Sequi's THE TRAMPLERS has all the hallmarks of a Spanish tragedy about a power bloated patriarch who'd rather destroy his own children than see them settle up with the times. Joseph Cotten is appropriately blusterous as the patriarch in question, a former Confederate officer who evidently used the Civil War as an excuse to indulge his own bigotry & intolerance of anybody he deems not good enough to sit down in his parlor for a good family dinner with him and his sons -- some of whom are dangerously beginning to question the old man's ways.

      Tarzan actor Gordon Scott (in his final film performance) plays the prodigal son who rides into town after a few years in a Yankee prison camp and his horrified to find his father & brothers cheerfully stringing up a local rancher whom pops has set up for cattle rustling, and things never get any cheerier. As another commenter points out, this is a somewhat somber, glum horse opera about a family at odds with itself: Cotten demands unswerving loyalty to his vision of traditions, where the younger son (James Mitchum, who is probably the best thing about the movie) has had enough of the killings, and the younger daughter has even dared to strike up a romance with Franco Nero, playing a kid of mixed blood who dreams of owning his own ranch and is bewildered by the bigotry he finds aimed at him for having fallen in love with the wrong girl. Things turn tragic when the old man sends out some of his nephews to bring the girl back home while Scott & Mitchum side with the young lovers, leading to death and madness.

      THE TRAMPLERS reminds me a lot of another Euro cowboy flick, Joaquín Luis Romero Marchent's FEDRA WEST from 1968 with James Philbrook also playing a bigoted patriarch who'd rather destroy his family than change with the times, though that film is more of a Spanish production in terms of both where it was made and the flavor of it's appearance. THE TRAMPLERS is actually what I would term a middle period Euro western rather than an out & out stylized spaghetti affair. There isn't much of the arty atmospherics that permeate the better known Sergio Leone and Sergio Corbucci affairs, with the family drama taking center stage to the usual choreographed gunfights and subtle nuances that most viewers associate with Italian made westerns, though some of the French locations used for the exterior shots look unique; No gunfights in the same old Almeria boulder field.

      The film was made in an interesting manner too with stock footage of cattle drives filmed on location in the American west blended almost seamlessly with the Italian soundstage work to create a sort of pastiche of a traditional cowboy movie. It's also interesting to contrast Franco Nero's role as the young half breed with his "Django" character from the following year, the comparison itself being almost a concise study in how the approach of the Italians changed over just a few months once Leone's artful, cartoonish methods became the predominant form. This is a more character driven approach that presents it's violence as an outcome of conflict rather than the subject matter (though one guy does get blowed up real, real good), with the traditional Americanized approach being the style the film seeks to emulate. While certainly smaller in scale THE TRAMPLERS has more in common with THE SEARCHERS than it does FISFTULL OF DOLLARS, complete with the implied racism of a white man having to come to grips with the world changing around him, clinging to those old traditions even if it kills him or those he loves. It does, and like FEDRA WEST the end results are emotionally shattering on a personal level rather than the morbid exhilaration of watching Clint Eastwood ride off into the sunset on a wagon load of bodies.

      Gordon Scott's performance is somewhat thankless, however. Along with a rehash of BUFFALO BILL this was his only western after the Peplum sword & sandal idiom that he graduated into once the Tarzan work dried up. It's too bad he didn't make more of them because he never really developed an identity as a western actor, abruptly leaving the industry after this film's completion in 1965. Legend has it he had his nose broken during a dust-up with a supporting actor during pre-production on a subsequent film, felt that his leading man looks had suffered and withdrew into solitude + obscurity just as the genre was developing it's own voice (Scott spent his final years living anonymously as a house guest of some of his Tarzan aficionados). His casting in the role is arbitrary however and it could have been played by anybody, which is ironic considering that to fans of Italian genre cinema his name is the biggest draw in the cast simply because he made so few films before calling it quits. I would have loved to have seen him in a more rambunctious production.

      Sadly the film has also been relegated to what is sometimes called Spaghetti Western Hell, a term used to describe movies that have fallen out of copyright and seem destined to stay that way, though as usual a widescreen presentation might improve one's perception of the results, hence my neutral rating of 5/10. It's certainly not a bad film, the characterizations are somewhat stronger than your average Italo western with an interesting dramatic tension that's usually missing from most examples of the idiom. Unlicensed fullscreen presentations aren't hard to come by, and for Gordon Scott fans it's certainly a must-see experience -- it's is also Franco Nero's first western outing as well, so students of spaghetti westerns will have to seek it out at some point -- though the ending is certainly a bit of a downer for sure. Like, really.

      5/10

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        A screen credit states that the scene of the cattle herds was taken (from footage shot) in Argentina at the farm of the Bovril Company by kind permission of Sig. John Bryan O'Sullivan.
      • Citations

        Lon Cordeen: The pain comes later, Charlie.

      • Crédits fous
        Franco Nero's name is spelled in the opening credits as "Frank Nero."
      • Connexions
        Featured in Best in Action: 1965 (2021)

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        • 3 avril 1968 (France)
      • Pays d’origine
        • Italie
        • France
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        • Anglais
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        • The Tramplers
      • Lieux de tournage
        • Espagne(cattle-drive sequences)
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        • Mancori
        • Chretien
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