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La vallée

  • 1972
  • 12
  • 1h 41min
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6,4/10
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Bulle Ogier in La vallée (1972)
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La cinéaste Barbet Schroeder explore les thèmes de la liberté sexuelle, de l'altération de l'esprit et de la quête du paradis lors d'une rencontre du début des années 70 avec la tribu des Ma... Tout lireLa cinéaste Barbet Schroeder explore les thèmes de la liberté sexuelle, de l'altération de l'esprit et de la quête du paradis lors d'une rencontre du début des années 70 avec la tribu des Mapuga, en Nouvelle Guinée.La cinéaste Barbet Schroeder explore les thèmes de la liberté sexuelle, de l'altération de l'esprit et de la quête du paradis lors d'une rencontre du début des années 70 avec la tribu des Mapuga, en Nouvelle Guinée.

  • Réalisation
    • Barbet Schroeder
  • Scénario
    • Barbet Schroeder
    • Paul Gégauff
  • Casting principal
    • Bulle Ogier
    • Jean-Pierre Kalfon
    • Michael Gothard
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    • Réalisation
      • Barbet Schroeder
    • Scénario
      • Barbet Schroeder
      • Paul Gégauff
    • Casting principal
      • Bulle Ogier
      • Jean-Pierre Kalfon
      • Michael Gothard
    • 26avis d'utilisateurs
    • 15avis des critiques
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    Rôles principaux9

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    Bulle Ogier
    Bulle Ogier
    • Viviane
    Jean-Pierre Kalfon
    Jean-Pierre Kalfon
    • Gaëtan
    Michael Gothard
    Michael Gothard
    • Olivier
    Valérie Lagrange
    Valérie Lagrange
    • Hermine
    Monique Giraudy
    • Monique
    Jérôme Beauvarlet
    • Yann
    Bob Mac Kay
    Charles Ivano
    The Mapuga Tribe and its Chiefs
    • Themselves
    • Réalisation
      • Barbet Schroeder
    • Scénario
      • Barbet Schroeder
      • Paul Gégauff
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    Avis des utilisateurs26

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    7marshalskrieg

    When you fall from grace, that's it.

    Deep philosophical and poetic time capsule film circa 1972. A main character seems like a young yet more wholesome Klaus Kinski. Lush scenery and intense authentic native tribal rituals. As 'decadent' civilized misfits trek deep into the jungle searching for paradise, they find bitter truths. Awesome soundtrack by The Pink Floyd. This is an 'idea' movie accompanied by a vibrant and wonderful landscape. This really could have happened exactly as portrayed in the film. If you want to know what it was like to be a globe trotting mystic hippie in 1972, this one is for you.
    lopingbuzzard

    Came for the music, stayed for the story

    I saw this film at the Plaza in New York City around 1981. I went to hear the Floyd music but I quickly became so engrossed that I forgot about the music. Determined to travel to the mysterious valley that is always obscured from the air by clouds, a group of Caucasians cross New Guinea. They meet isolated tribes (NOT African - this is New Guinea, remember), experience love and loss, discover themselves, etc. And I thought the ending was wonderful. A little Easy Rider, a little Sorcerer, a lot of atmosphere and style. Naturalist-docu-fiction. Unique and unforgettable.
    AJ4F

    Slow-paced, mysterious and ultimately engrossing

    Without giving too much away, this is an intellectual road trip movie with a documentary atmosphere in many scenes. It is somewhat muddled for the first 15 minutes, but then you can really get into it (if you're ever going to). It relies on atmosphere more than plot, but it did have a clear meaning to me. Overall it's fairly sobering and I can't say it will leave you happy.

    I didn't see this as a "hippie" film, rather a commentary on the human condition. One oddity was the interspersing of French subtitled dialog with segments of non-dubbed English. The scenery was very lush and I don't think a second of the film was shot in a studio.

    People who didn't like this are probably in the short-attention-span crowd. I don't think this film has anything to do with being a Floyd fan. The music is mostly in the background and doesn't quite fit what you're watching anyway. Any number of low-key instrumental soundtracks may have made more sense. It really doesn't need music at all, except for the tribal chants. Only a few songs from the Floyd CD were apparent, but I know why they called the album "Obscured By Clouds."
    Phantom Moonhead

    Film With Pink Floyd Soundtrack

    I would bet that most of the people who seek out this film are either Schroeder compilists or Pink Floyd fans. The film follows the odyssey of a bored rich girl who goes looking for rare feathers in a "Mystical" jungle that is covered in clouds. The full title is "The Valley Obscured By Clouds" and the soundtrack(Obscured By Clouds)was Pink Floyd's last soundtrack right before they made "Dark Side of The Moon".

    The film contains some generous sex scenes,some nudity and a Pig slaughtering scene that might not appeal to timid viewers but it does have a neat soundtrack and some different versions of Floyd songs can be heard here,if only in snippets. Although it gets a good rating,Schroeder and Floyd fans might be better off with "More" another Schroeder film with a more complete soundtrack.
    nnad

    Pink Floyd, Hippies, Natives, and the Truth.

    The Valley is not for everyone's taste but is still worth a look. Sometimes looking like a cross between Jimi Hendrix's Rainbow Bridge and National Geographic, the Valley pretty much centers on the same themes of the former although it exhibits a much more lucid character development, not to mention poetic discourse. The Valley brings up many ideas of its era: free love, mind expanding drugs, psychedelic music, and ontological excursions. However, the foremost point seems to be a clash between the first and last cited, and sometimes presented sporadically.

    The film follows a girl who latches on to group of hippies on an expedition for the `Valley obscured by Clouds.' Her primary motive is to collect rare feathers for her husband in France, but she inevitably falls in love with two of the hippies. Amongst their infidelities and hypocrisies, the group manages to find aid with a friendly New Guinea native tribe who slaughter pigs and perform ritualistic dances. Finally, the group makes their way back on the path, but do they?

    Although somewhat slow at moments (i.e., the group's interaction with a peaceful African tribe) the Valley primarily has a steady pace; however, this minor flaw is (!) obscured by the beautiful cinematography and scenery. I enjoyed a large percentage of this film (especially the incidental music composed by Pink Floyd) but the ending a bit abrupt, a quality that may upset some viewers wanting more. Nevertheless, the Valley is still a great film with a beautiful story and beautiful images.

    Note: about the music, if you're looking for another Pink Floyd album in this movie, forget it! As mentioned above, it's purely incidental and few of the Floyd's songs are in this film. Go buy the complete soundtrack in the stores.

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    • Anecdotes
      The soundtrack to this film was released as a Pink Floyd album. Due to a spat with the film company after filming was complete, the Floyd decided not to mention the planned film title, "La Vallee," in the album's title and instead chose to call the release "Obscured By Clouds," echoing a line of dialogue from the film. In response, "Obscured By Clouds" was added as a subtitle so it could gain from Pink Floyd's popularity. This turned out to be a good move as Pink Floyd would soon gain even more fame with the release of "Dark Side of the Moon" just a few months later.
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      Viviane: Olivier, isn't it wonderful... We've become so close to them. We're practically like them. Look at Gaetan and Hermine... it's great! I'm happy. We've found truth, you know.

      [kisses his shoulder, but he looks sad]

      Viviane: What's wrong, Olivier?

      Olivier: It's just the opposite.

      Viviane: What's the opposite?

      Olivier: We're lying. Whatever Gaetan says, we're tourists here.

      Viviane: What do you mean, "tourists"? I don't get it, what's that supposed to mean?

      [angry]

      Viviane: It's disgusting, hearing you talk like that, you've spent months here with Gaetan, and that's all... You don't understand. What are you, stupid?

      Olivier: Dancing's easy. Could you work with them?

      Viviane: Yes, absolutely!

      Olivier: Women are even more exploited here.

      [Viviane starts to think]

      Olivier: You know, Viviane, among the Kombugas society is bound by very strict rules.

      Viviane: Same with ours.

      Olivier: It's not the same thing... We're trying to break ours. When they dance, it's not just for the pleasure of it, it's to obey something. Look, this is the cemetery, they're dancing on their dead. We seek after pleasure, and maybe peace. They couldn't care less about that.

      Viviane: I don't know, Olivier, but look at this festival. Everyone's happy together. Why do we all understand, without words... like real friends? Why the understanding, why is it so simple here, eh?

      Olivier: It's O.K. But that doesn't mean much.

      Viviane: You really disappoint me. You're just like my husband.

      Olivier: Sure, we all like each other, but it doesn't go any farther. How can you expect real rapports between us, who tear down our social restrictions, and them, who live in terror and... and respect for taboos?

      Viviane: I don't know, but it's possible. We're finding something else, that's all. Don't you believe in mysterious forces?

      Olivier: Oh, sure, very much. But not in their way. For us, that's impossible. One can't forget one's past, Viviane. It's not possible to undo your conditioning. Once it's lost, innocence can't be found again. Paradise is a place with many exits, but no entrance... There's no way back from knowledge... When you fall from grace, that's it. I wonder, to find it again, whether we shouldn't do just the opposite of what we've done... If we shouldn't take another bite out of the apple.

      [Viviane walks away]

    • Connexions
      Edited into Virus cannibale (1980)
    • Bandes originales
      Obscured By Clouds
      Written by Pink Floyd

      Performed by Pink Floyd

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    • Date de sortie
      • 11 juillet 1972 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • France
    • Langues
      • Français
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Valley (Obscured by Clouds)
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Papouasie Nouvelle Guinée
    • Sociétés de production
      • Les Films du Losange
      • Société Nouvelle de Cinématographie (SNC)
      • Circle Associates Ltd.
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      1 heure 41 minutes
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