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Une raison pour vivre, une raison pour mourir

Titre original : Una ragione per vivere e una per morire
  • 1972
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  • 1h 59min
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James Coburn, Telly Savalas, and Bud Spencer in Une raison pour vivre, une raison pour mourir (1972)
Union Colonel Pembroke (Coburn) rescues seven condemned men from the gallows in order to attack Fort Holman, which is commanded by the insane Confederate Major Frank Ward (Telly Savalas, Kojak). Under the guise of seizing the fortress for its strategic location, Pembroke in fact wants revenge for Ward's cowardly murder of his son. The siege that follows pits criminals and Confederates against each other in bloody battle. On this impossible mission, against impossible odds, who will survive?
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueBranded a coward for surrendering his New Mexico fort to the Confederates without firing a shot, a Union colonel leads a band of condemned prisoners on a suicide mission to recapture it.Branded a coward for surrendering his New Mexico fort to the Confederates without firing a shot, a Union colonel leads a band of condemned prisoners on a suicide mission to recapture it.Branded a coward for surrendering his New Mexico fort to the Confederates without firing a shot, a Union colonel leads a band of condemned prisoners on a suicide mission to recapture it.

  • Réalisation
    • Tonino Valerii
  • Scénario
    • Ernesto Gastaldi
    • Tonino Valerii
    • Rafael Azcona
  • Casting principal
    • James Coburn
    • Bud Spencer
    • Telly Savalas
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,1/10
    2,4 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Tonino Valerii
    • Scénario
      • Ernesto Gastaldi
      • Tonino Valerii
      • Rafael Azcona
    • Casting principal
      • James Coburn
      • Bud Spencer
      • Telly Savalas
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    James Coburn
    James Coburn
    • Colonel Pembroke
    Bud Spencer
    Bud Spencer
    • Eli Sampson
    Telly Savalas
    Telly Savalas
    • Major Ward
    Reinhard Kolldehoff
    Reinhard Kolldehoff
    • Sergeant Brent
    • (as René Kolldehoff)
    José Suárez
    José Suárez
    • Maj. Charles Ballard
    Francisco Sanz
    • Farmer
    • (as Paco Sanz)
    Ángel Álvarez
    Ángel Álvarez
    • Scully the Monger
    Mario Pardo
    Mario Pardo
    • Roger, Farmer's Son
    Ugo Fangareggi
    Ugo Fangareggi
    • Ted Wendall
    Concha Rabal
      Benito Stefanelli
      Benito Stefanelli
      • Samuel Pigott
      Guy Mairesse
      • Donald McIvers
      Alejandro de Enciso
        Fabrizio Moresco
        Fabrizio Moresco
        • Ward's Assistant
        Adolfo Lastretti
        Adolfo Lastretti
        • Will Fernandez
        Turam Quibo
        • Apache
        Carla Mancini
        Carla Mancini
        Joe Pollini
        • Union Sergeant
        • Réalisation
          • Tonino Valerii
        • Scénario
          • Ernesto Gastaldi
          • Tonino Valerii
          • Rafael Azcona
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        6ma-cortes

        A misfit group led by James Coburn in search of millions of dollars in gold buried under an impregnable fortress commanded by Telly Savalas

        A group of conscripted convicts formed by seven condemned , already destined for death row , are drafted to go on a near-suicide mission and attempt to recapture a Missouri fort called Fort Holzman . They must carry out the objective and reconquest the keep with the understanding that if the Confederate don't murder them , the Union Army won't, either . A two-fisted U.S. ex-officer and the ambitious drifters , join forces to rob a lot of gold located into an impressive fortress where is supposedly hidden a treasure , 500.000 dollars in gold bars taken from a Confederate bank . In the hands of hardboiled director Tonino Valeri and a tough-as-leather cast headed by the commander James Coburn , as a troublesome U.S. Army official , that's all the plot that's needed to make one rip-roaring Spaghetti Western flick . Coburn's mission is two-fold and in ¨Dirty dozen ¨ style : first turn his prisoners into a fighting unit and then turn them loose on a Southern fortress occupied by Confederate soldiers commanded by the ruthless Major Telly Savalas . His crime-minded characters include Bud Spencer as the chronic malcontent , Benito Stefanelli as a ready-to-blow psycho , Hugo Fangareggi as a lame-brained convict , and Reinhard Kolldehoff as an Union sergeant , among others . The first half of the film allows the colorful cast of character actors to have their fun as they get their tails whipped into shape and develop shaky relationship with their leader . The final part is all action, as the assailants wreak havoc and then run for their lives . Despite the fact that few of the "heroes" survive the bloodbath , the message here isn't that war is hell . Rather, it seems to be : war can be a hell of a good time... if you've got nothing to lose . Pretty good S.W. about a relentless and moving dangerous mission set against spectacular scenery of Almeria . The hard assignment is set against strong environment, risked mountains and hazardous trails . The perilous feats include a numerous group formed by a motley and misfit cast . It will be a long and dangerous mission with continuous risks . This Western is superior than subsequent entries because displaying stirring adventures , shootouts, riding pursuits and being pretty entertaining.

        It's an exciting S.W. with overwhelming final showdown between the protagonists and their enemies full of explosions , machine gun and deaths . James Coburn is very fine , he ravages the screen, he steals the show as Union colonel seeking revenge . Telly Savalas as a cruelly baddie role as a confederate officer is terrific , subsequently the would play similar roles in other Spaghettis . Furthermore , appears usual secondaries of Italian/Spanish Western as Benito Stefanelli , Francisco Sanz , José Suarez and , of course , special mention to Bud Spencer in an unusual serious role . The film blends violence, blood, tension, high body-count and though the first part is slow moving , however , having quite fun . There is plenty of action in the movie , guaranteeing a shootouts or stunts every few minutes. There are many fine technicians and nice assistant direction and excellent production design with a magnificent scenarios with plenty of barren outdoors , sandy landscapes under a glimmer sun and a fine set on the final scenes . The musician Riz Ortalani composes a nice Spaghetti soundtrack and well conducted ; it's full of enjoyable sounds and emotive score . The film is well shot in Texas Hollywood-Fort Bravo, Almeria, Spain with a breathtaking set design at the impressive fortress which was made by Julio Molina for ¨the Condor ¨ movie , one of the best ever created and where were posteriorly filmed several Spaghetti as ¨Blind man¨, ¨A man called Noon¨ and ¨Conan the Barbarian¨. Nevertheless, today the fort has been partially crumbled and only remain some ruins .

        Tonino Valeri's acceptable direction is well crafted, here he's less cynical and humorous and more inclined toward violence and too much action especially on its ending part . Colorful and evocative cinematography by Alejandro Ulloa , reflecting marvelously the habitual Almeria outdoors . The picture was well directed by Tonino Valeri , an expert on Western as proved in ¨The hired gun ¨ , ¨My name is nobody ¨ with Henry Fonda and Terence Hill , ¨The price of power ¨ with Giuliano Gemma and Van Heflin , ¨The day of anger ¨with Lee van Cleef and ¨ Taste of Killing¨ with Craig Hill and George Martin .
        6printerbob

        James Coburn at his best! Premise of story is good.

        Who wouldn't jump at the chance to get off a gallows and take a chance at living? The motivation is, of course, gold...lot's of it. James Coburn does a very good job of portraying a soldier seeking justice for his murdered wife, and goes after Telly Sevallis with a vengance, using condemmed men as his team. Much like the Dirty Dozen, but without the military structure of WWII. Liked this movie but the sound track is typically Italian...overmodulated and scratchy. When I first saw this film I thought I was watching a Sergio Leone spaghetti western...even the music sounded the same. In spite of the similes and plagarised plots from other films in this genre, this one still turned out well. Good photography and special effects. Hope someday someone will remaster the sound and turn out a smashing DVD. Enjoy!
        6hitchcockthelegend

        The Dirty Seven.

        Una ragione per vivere e una per morire (AKA: A Reason to Live, A Reason to Die & Massacre at Fort Holman) is directed by Tonino Valerii, who also co-writes with Rafael Azcona and Ernesto Gastaldi. It stars James Coburn, Telly Savalas & Bud Spencer. Cinematographer is Alejandro Ulloa and the music is scored by Riz Ortolani. Plot sees Coburn as Union Colonel Pembroke, who during the Civil War is given a rag-tag group of criminals to go win back the fort he lost to Confederate Major Frank Ward (Savalas). For him it's a chance to regain his honour, for them it's a chance to avoid execution for their crimes.

        Joplin Gazette, Joplin Missouri, April 10, 1872

        ---Today I walked through the ruins of what was once Fort Holman. 10 years ago, this Civil War fortress, thought to be impregnable, was destroyed by a wild bunch of marauders. Eli Sampson, a survivor of that massacre, revealed in an interview that the raid was the result of a blood feud between two bitter men: Colonel Pembroke, a Union officer, thought to be a traitor and a coward, led the mission to recapture the fort he had once surrendered. Major Ward, a ruthless "Mad Genius," who joined the Confederacy solely to gain command of Fort Holman, so that he could rule the vast surrounding Santa Fe territory after the war. But what motivates these two men and what caused this incredible blood bath, was explained by Eli Sampson in the story that follows---

        It's a written opening that grabs the attention straight away, it has all the promise of a spaghetti western done Peckinpah style. Then early in proceedings a grizzled James Coburn walks along a line of men about to be hanged, being introduced to them and calmly wondering if said scum-bags would like to stave off execution by accompanying him on a suicide mission? OK, it's derivative of The Dirty Dozen five years earlier, but if this is blending Peckinpah with Robert Aldrich at his best then it will be worth every second spent with it. Sadly it doesn't come close to living up to that particular promise. But it does have points of worth within.

        If you are willing to invest some patience with the slow narrative and get to the carnage finale unscathed? Then it's actually worth the wait as regards action. There's also some fine photography from Ulloa around Almeria in Spain, while Ortolani's soundtrack score blends well in context to the story. However, away from Coburn the acting is sub-standard, especially from Savalas who is miscast, while some suspension of disbelief is needed once the group reach the fort. But all in all it's a safe recommend to fans of Westerns, spaghetti or otherwise. And certainly a must for Coburn fans. 6.5/10

        Footnote: The full cut of the film now runs at just shy of two hours in length, film buyers should ensure that they buy home format discs that run at around the 113/114 minute mark.
        8FightingWesterner

        The Dirty Bunch

        Disgraced Union officer James Coburn saves himself and a few degenerates, including Bud Spencer, from hanging by suggesting a daring raid on the impregnable Fort Holman, currently being held by mad rebel General Telly Savalas. As the introductory crawl suggests, Coburn has greater motivations than that of simple patriotism.

        Inspired by The Dirty Dozen with a bit of Where Eagles Dare and The Wild Bunch thrown in, this is an entertaining Italian western/Civil War movie that makes good use of the massive sets previously built for the film El Condor.

        Generally worth recommending, Massacre At Fort Holman (also widely known as A Reason To Live, A Reason To Die, with Coburn dubbed by someone else and Bud Spencer apparently by character actor R.G. Armstrong!) sags some in the middle but things pick up and the final battle is fairly exciting.

        There's a great performance by the always cool James Coburn, while that of the supposedly insane Telly Savalas is actually more subdued than usual. He was much more zesty in Pancho Villa and A Town Called Hell, though this is still a better movie.
        6lost-in-limbo

        "I killed, the first time in my life".

        The spaghetti western sub-genre might have grown rancid by this period, but there are no doubts their titles were striking and creative, when which said simply rolled of your tongue. Tell me that this title isn't a lyrical joy. No stranger to the sub-genre with "My Name is Nobody" and "Day of Anger", director Tonino Valerii's 'A Reason to Live, A Reason to Die!" would be a hardy old-fashion western variation of "The Dirty Dozen". While it might be only half of that film, its remains an amusing fare thanks largely to the three central performances of Bud Spencer, James Coburn and Telly Savalas. The latter might not make an appearance until the hour mark, but it's the combination between the buoyant Spencer and low-key Coburn which drives it. The humour seems to come off thanks to Spencer timing and presence. Even though the greying Coburn and swaggering Savalas get top billing, it's Spencer who's really the star.

        Like most films of this ilk, it's systematic with its staples as the theme of vengeance and redemption looms prominently. There's no real change of route, as it keeps it gritty and the straight-forward narrative never loses focuses, especially that of the character's motivations with it to throw up a sudden revelation (which my DVD synopsis' spoiled). The expandable characters are clichés, but workable as they serve their purpose with it ending on a bang. It actually starts with the end, to only retell the story from Spencer's character's point of view. This gives it like a mythical tale-like quality. It's well shot with a commendable music score. Valerii does a serviceable job behind the camera letting it move at a fair pace while constructing few intense scenes and cracking action sequences, like the delirious climatic showdown at the hillside forte (with it vivid locations), which had me thinking of "The Wild Bunch" (in which case Coburn would star in Peckinpah's "Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid" the following year), but in the end you feel like there just wasn't enough going on. Some moments should have been much stronger than they were, like the personal battle between Coburn and Savalas.

        Contrived, but tough and dirty entertainment.

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        • Anecdotes
          The homestead encountered when the group leave the train (at 43 minutes) is the same as the McBain homestead in Once Upon A Time In The West (1968)
        • Gaffes
          The film is set in 1862 but features Gatling guns that, presumably, formed part of the fort's arsenal when it was in Union hands.The gun was designed by Dr Richard J Gatling in 1861 and patented on November 4, 1862. Though two examples were employed near Petersburg and eight fitted on gunboats, it was not accepted by the American Army until 1866. So it's most improbable that it would have been available in a remote theatre of the Civil War.
        • Citations

          Colonello Pembroke: Gentlemen, I can promise you nothing, except a chance to die honorable, and possibly live. In any case, freedom at the end.

        • Versions alternatives
          For its initial American release, the film was cut to 92 minutes. This version still airs on the MGM-HD Channel.
        • Connexions
          Edited into Dusk to Dawn Drive-In Trash-o-Rama Show Vol. 9 (2002)

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        Détails

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        • Date de sortie
          • 29 mai 1974 (France)
        • Pays d’origine
          • Italie
          • France
          • Allemagne de l'Ouest
          • Espagne
        • Langue
          • Anglais
        • Aussi connu sous le nom de
          • La Horde des salopards
        • Lieux de tournage
          • Almería, Andalucía, Espagne(Fort Bowie)
        • Sociétés de production
          • Atlántida Films
          • Europrodis
          • Heritage Entertainment Inc.
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          1 heure 59 minutes
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        • Rapport de forme
          • 2.35 : 1

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