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Une raison pour vivre, une raison pour mourir

Titre original : Una ragione per vivere e una per morire
  • 1972
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  • 1h 59min
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James Coburn, Telly Savalas, and Bud Spencer in Une raison pour vivre, une raison pour mourir (1972)
Union Colonel Pembroke (Coburn) rescues seven condemned men from the gallows in order to attack Fort Holman, which is commanded by the insane Confederate Major Frank Ward (Telly Savalas, Kojak). Under the guise of seizing the fortress for its strategic location, Pembroke in fact wants revenge for Ward's cowardly murder of his son. The siege that follows pits criminals and Confederates against each other in bloody battle. On this impossible mission, against impossible odds, who will survive?
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueBranded a coward for surrendering his New Mexico fort to the Confederates without firing a shot, a Union colonel leads a band of condemned prisoners on a suicide mission to recapture it.Branded a coward for surrendering his New Mexico fort to the Confederates without firing a shot, a Union colonel leads a band of condemned prisoners on a suicide mission to recapture it.Branded a coward for surrendering his New Mexico fort to the Confederates without firing a shot, a Union colonel leads a band of condemned prisoners on a suicide mission to recapture it.

  • Réalisation
    • Tonino Valerii
  • Scénario
    • Ernesto Gastaldi
    • Tonino Valerii
    • Rafael Azcona
  • Casting principal
    • James Coburn
    • Bud Spencer
    • Telly Savalas
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,1/10
    2,4 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Tonino Valerii
    • Scénario
      • Ernesto Gastaldi
      • Tonino Valerii
      • Rafael Azcona
    • Casting principal
      • James Coburn
      • Bud Spencer
      • Telly Savalas
    • 23avis d'utilisateurs
    • 23avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    James Coburn
    James Coburn
    • Colonel Pembroke
    Bud Spencer
    Bud Spencer
    • Eli Sampson
    Telly Savalas
    Telly Savalas
    • Major Ward
    Reinhard Kolldehoff
    Reinhard Kolldehoff
    • Sergeant Brent
    • (as René Kolldehoff)
    José Suárez
    José Suárez
    • Maj. Charles Ballard
    Francisco Sanz
    • Farmer
    • (as Paco Sanz)
    Ángel Álvarez
    Ángel Álvarez
    • Scully the Monger
    Mario Pardo
    Mario Pardo
    • Roger, Farmer's Son
    Ugo Fangareggi
    Ugo Fangareggi
    • Ted Wendall
    Concha Rabal
      Benito Stefanelli
      Benito Stefanelli
      • Samuel Pigott
      Guy Mairesse
      • Donald McIvers
      Alejandro de Enciso
        Fabrizio Moresco
        Fabrizio Moresco
        • Ward's Assistant
        Adolfo Lastretti
        Adolfo Lastretti
        • Will Fernandez
        Turam Quibo
        • Apache
        Carla Mancini
        Carla Mancini
        Joe Pollini
        • Union Sergeant
        • Réalisation
          • Tonino Valerii
        • Scénario
          • Ernesto Gastaldi
          • Tonino Valerii
          • Rafael Azcona
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        Avis des utilisateurs23

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        7Leofwine_draca

        Little-known but rewarding

        The plot of Tonino Valerii's men-on-a-mission spagwest bears heavy resemblance to THE DIRTY DOZEN while certain sequences are undoubtedly inspired by the climax of Peckinpah's WILD BUNCH. Despite the familiarity of this subject matter, the film turns out to be an engaging little western that tells its story in a spare, lean narrative. It has a gritty, downbeat flavour, is very well shot and makes fine use of some grand sets and isolated locations. Valerii displays a real affinity with the subject matter and brings Ernesto Gastaldi's script to life in a memorable way.

        Most of the characters are sidelined in favour of the big hitters, but small wonder when this film features James Coburn and Telly Savalas as protagonist and antagonist respectively. Coburn is stoic, sardonic and a fitting hero, while Savalas plays it subdued throughout. There's also a major role for spagwest stalwart Bud Spencer. Throw in some wonderfully filmed explosions (that put anything Michael Bay's done since to shame) and an epic-feel climax and you have a film that's never less than entertaining.
        8FightingWesterner

        The Dirty Bunch

        Disgraced Union officer James Coburn saves himself and a few degenerates, including Bud Spencer, from hanging by suggesting a daring raid on the impregnable Fort Holman, currently being held by mad rebel General Telly Savalas. As the introductory crawl suggests, Coburn has greater motivations than that of simple patriotism.

        Inspired by The Dirty Dozen with a bit of Where Eagles Dare and The Wild Bunch thrown in, this is an entertaining Italian western/Civil War movie that makes good use of the massive sets previously built for the film El Condor.

        Generally worth recommending, Massacre At Fort Holman (also widely known as A Reason To Live, A Reason To Die, with Coburn dubbed by someone else and Bud Spencer apparently by character actor R.G. Armstrong!) sags some in the middle but things pick up and the final battle is fairly exciting.

        There's a great performance by the always cool James Coburn, while that of the supposedly insane Telly Savalas is actually more subdued than usual. He was much more zesty in Pancho Villa and A Town Called Hell, though this is still a better movie.
        6printerbob

        James Coburn at his best! Premise of story is good.

        Who wouldn't jump at the chance to get off a gallows and take a chance at living? The motivation is, of course, gold...lot's of it. James Coburn does a very good job of portraying a soldier seeking justice for his murdered wife, and goes after Telly Sevallis with a vengance, using condemmed men as his team. Much like the Dirty Dozen, but without the military structure of WWII. Liked this movie but the sound track is typically Italian...overmodulated and scratchy. When I first saw this film I thought I was watching a Sergio Leone spaghetti western...even the music sounded the same. In spite of the similes and plagarised plots from other films in this genre, this one still turned out well. Good photography and special effects. Hope someday someone will remaster the sound and turn out a smashing DVD. Enjoy!
        3Coventry

        If only there was a reason to watch

        This film stood on my must-see list for one reason, namely the three major names in the cast and particularly because I'm an enormous fan of Telly Savalas' naturally malignant charisma. I should have guessed, however, that Savalas' part here is not much more than an small supportive role during the last half hour and that everything else isn't worth sitting through, neither. "A Reason to Live, A Reason to Die" is a poor, dull and forgettable hybrid between Spaghetti Western and (Civil) War movie that steals ideas and stylistic aspects from numerous classics but doesn't contribute the slightest thing itself. Director Tonino Valerii carefully watched all the blockbuster hits that got released during previous years (like "The Dirty Dozen", "The Wild Bunch", "The Great Escape", "The Magnificent Seven"…) and mishmashes a familiar story of a group convicted criminals that are offered the choice between the noose or fighting along in a battle to re-conquer a lost fortress. Colonel Pembroke gave up the fortress all too easily and, in order to avoid total loss of dignity, he embarks on a crazy mission to reclaim it with an 8-headed posse of outcasts that he promised a gold treasure that isn't there. James Coburn, who looks like he's been sleeping under a bridge for two years, depicts the anti- hero Colonel, Bud Spencer – in a largely non-comical role – is one of his henchmen and the great Telly Savalas is the evil Confederate Major they have to chase out of the fortress. "A Reason to Live, A Reason to Die" is incredibly long and tedious, especially because it's mainly derivative plodding during the first hour and a half. The trek towards the fortress is full of clichéd obstacles and macho arguments, while the final battle is dire and unspectacular. Being an Italian western from the early seventies, there's an unforgivable shortness of violent action, filthy bastard characters and general nastiness.
        6hitchcockthelegend

        The Dirty Seven.

        Una ragione per vivere e una per morire (AKA: A Reason to Live, A Reason to Die & Massacre at Fort Holman) is directed by Tonino Valerii, who also co-writes with Rafael Azcona and Ernesto Gastaldi. It stars James Coburn, Telly Savalas & Bud Spencer. Cinematographer is Alejandro Ulloa and the music is scored by Riz Ortolani. Plot sees Coburn as Union Colonel Pembroke, who during the Civil War is given a rag-tag group of criminals to go win back the fort he lost to Confederate Major Frank Ward (Savalas). For him it's a chance to regain his honour, for them it's a chance to avoid execution for their crimes.

        Joplin Gazette, Joplin Missouri, April 10, 1872

        ---Today I walked through the ruins of what was once Fort Holman. 10 years ago, this Civil War fortress, thought to be impregnable, was destroyed by a wild bunch of marauders. Eli Sampson, a survivor of that massacre, revealed in an interview that the raid was the result of a blood feud between two bitter men: Colonel Pembroke, a Union officer, thought to be a traitor and a coward, led the mission to recapture the fort he had once surrendered. Major Ward, a ruthless "Mad Genius," who joined the Confederacy solely to gain command of Fort Holman, so that he could rule the vast surrounding Santa Fe territory after the war. But what motivates these two men and what caused this incredible blood bath, was explained by Eli Sampson in the story that follows---

        It's a written opening that grabs the attention straight away, it has all the promise of a spaghetti western done Peckinpah style. Then early in proceedings a grizzled James Coburn walks along a line of men about to be hanged, being introduced to them and calmly wondering if said scum-bags would like to stave off execution by accompanying him on a suicide mission? OK, it's derivative of The Dirty Dozen five years earlier, but if this is blending Peckinpah with Robert Aldrich at his best then it will be worth every second spent with it. Sadly it doesn't come close to living up to that particular promise. But it does have points of worth within.

        If you are willing to invest some patience with the slow narrative and get to the carnage finale unscathed? Then it's actually worth the wait as regards action. There's also some fine photography from Ulloa around Almeria in Spain, while Ortolani's soundtrack score blends well in context to the story. However, away from Coburn the acting is sub-standard, especially from Savalas who is miscast, while some suspension of disbelief is needed once the group reach the fort. But all in all it's a safe recommend to fans of Westerns, spaghetti or otherwise. And certainly a must for Coburn fans. 6.5/10

        Footnote: The full cut of the film now runs at just shy of two hours in length, film buyers should ensure that they buy home format discs that run at around the 113/114 minute mark.

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        • Anecdotes
          The homestead encountered when the group leave the train (at 43 minutes) is the same as the McBain homestead in Once Upon A Time In The West (1968)
        • Gaffes
          The film is set in 1862 but features Gatling guns that, presumably, formed part of the fort's arsenal when it was in Union hands.The gun was designed by Dr Richard J Gatling in 1861 and patented on November 4, 1862. Though two examples were employed near Petersburg and eight fitted on gunboats, it was not accepted by the American Army until 1866. So it's most improbable that it would have been available in a remote theatre of the Civil War.
        • Citations

          Colonello Pembroke: Gentlemen, I can promise you nothing, except a chance to die honorable, and possibly live. In any case, freedom at the end.

        • Versions alternatives
          For its initial American release, the film was cut to 92 minutes. This version still airs on the MGM-HD Channel.
        • Connexions
          Edited into Dusk to Dawn Drive-In Trash-o-Rama Show Vol. 9 (2002)

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        Détails

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        • Date de sortie
          • 29 mai 1974 (France)
        • Pays d’origine
          • Italie
          • France
          • Allemagne de l'Ouest
          • Espagne
        • Langue
          • Anglais
        • Aussi connu sous le nom de
          • La Horde des salopards
        • Lieux de tournage
          • Almería, Andalucía, Espagne(Fort Bowie)
        • Sociétés de production
          • Atlántida Films
          • Europrodis
          • Heritage Entertainment Inc.
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        • Durée
          1 heure 59 minutes
        • Couleur
          • Color
        • Mixage
          • Mono
        • Rapport de forme
          • 2.35 : 1

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