Le chagrin et la pitié - chronique d'une ville française sous l'occupation
- 1969
- Tous publics
- 4h 11min
Entre 1940 et 1944, Clermont-Ferrand est occupée par les Nazis. La population va réagir de différentes façons: certaines personnes vont s'engager dans la Résistance pendant que d'autres coll... Tout lireEntre 1940 et 1944, Clermont-Ferrand est occupée par les Nazis. La population va réagir de différentes façons: certaines personnes vont s'engager dans la Résistance pendant que d'autres collaborent avec les Nazis et dénoncent leurs voisinsEntre 1940 et 1944, Clermont-Ferrand est occupée par les Nazis. La population va réagir de différentes façons: certaines personnes vont s'engager dans la Résistance pendant que d'autres collaborent avec les Nazis et dénoncent leurs voisins
- Réalisation
- Scénario
- Casting principal
- Nommé pour 1 Oscar
- 6 victoires et 2 nominations au total
- Self, former Wehrmacht Captain
- (as Helmuth Tausend)
- Self, general in the Wehrmacht
- (images d'archives)
- (as General Stummel)
- Self, SS commander
- (images d'archives)
- (as Zepp Dietrich)
- Self
- (images d'archives)
- Self
- (images d'archives)
- self, Former Mayor Of Combronde
- (as Monsieur Leiris)
- Self
- (images d'archives)
Avis à la une
Boy was I wrong. This turned out to be one of the most engrossing films I've seen. Yes, it is too long. But you're willing to forgive it that. This is simply the best film I've seen on World War II. Numerous interviews with French politicians, teachers, shop keepers, peasants, hoteliers, and more along with ones of Germans and Englishmen gave one of the most revealing and human portraits of World War II - and of the French people - I've seen. Combined with included archival footage from the war, this made for what is clearly one of the great all time documentaries and greatest WWII films I've seen.
TSATP draws you in right away and really never lets up. Almost every interview enlightens in some way. Everybody talking has their own agenda - spin in modern parlance - but the director is able to combine these in a way that exposes the most blantant of falsehoods and also paints a realistic composite portrait. The Nazi propaganda films were also chilling. One early example is a film of black and arabic French soldiers captured by the Nazis with the implication that racial impurity led to the French demise.
I could go on and on about this but I think I'm running out of room and need to talk about the DVD. I highly recommend this film for anyone who wants to go beyond history book versions of the war.
As for the DVD version itself, there are several flaws, starting with the $50 price tag. Beyond that, the print used was a poor one. The quality of the interview scenes was not much better than that of the archival footage spliced in. The subtitles were also not that great. Interestingly, much of disc two appeared to have a remixed soundtrack. For interviewees in English and German, the director dubbed over a partial French translation with the original language reduced in the background. This partial French translation was then subtitled in English (and not always well). On disc two, quite a few of the English sections did not have French dubbing or subtitles, which is where I suspect the sound remix comes in. The ending was also quite abrupt and choppy (Maurice Chevalier in English?) and didn't have the feel of being original, though let me stress I've no real knowledge to substantiate this.
Thirty years down the road, Ophüls' methodology is as interesting as the history he tells. Merely claiming that Ophüls had an argument seems to work against the surface of his film, for he disguises his point of view, his argument, behind the reminiscing of his interview subjects. The film is a classic of humanist culture in large part because Ophüls, in giving the people the chance to say their piece, apparently puts his faith in those people (and in the audience that watches them) to impart "truth." However, the filmmaker is much cannier than this; he is not artless. The editing of the various perspectives in the movie allows the viewer to form conclusions of their own that don't always match those of the people who are doing the talking in the film. In fact, The Sorrow and the Pity makes great demands on the viewer, not just because of the film's length: Ophüls assumes you are processing the information he's providing, and so the film gets better as it progresses, with the viewer's attention being rewarded in direct correlation with the effort you put in.
And Ophüls is himself the primary interviewer in the film; you don't often actually see him, but he's there, asking the questions, leading on his subjects and his audience, only partly hidden (visually and philosophically) from view. The movie might look easy; there are none of the showy flourishes of a Kubrick or Stone here (or of Max Ophüls, for that matter). But the viewer is advised to remember that Ophüls' guiding hand is always in the background, constructing the film's version of the truth just as the characters do in their stories.
The French filmmakers took care to interview French, both in support and opposed to the government of France who collaborated with Germany after their swift defeat, as well as Germans, both Nazi and otherwise and British officials who were involved in the war. With three languages present, the dialogue is spoken over in French, although in the English cut that I viewed, the English was mostly left alone.
It's not a stunning film as a documentary, in terms of presentation, but some of the stories that the film brings out of its sources are quite amazing and document a lot of details that a basic study of the WWII era during a history class might not bring out. Even more notably, the individual stories of those involved at the time highlight much of what's going on while also providing an emotional connection to a person or groups of people and making the situations easier to imagine. I think The Sorrow and the Pity remains a valuable film simply because there aren't many of its kind from its era and for how personal it chooses to be in telling the stories of the men and women that lived during this terrible moment in history. But it's really long and people who don't care about history or about people's stories probably would find much in here to like. 8/10.
Le saviez-vous
- AnecdotesOriginally intended for French television. However, French broadcasters refused to show it arguing the documentary depicted occupied France as exclusively populated by traitors.
- Citations
Dr. Claude Levy: France is the only government in all Europe whose government collaborated. Others signed an armistice or surrendered, but France was the only country to have collaborated and voted laws which were even more racist than the Nuremberg laws, as the French racist criteria were even more demanding than the German racist criteria. It's not something to be proud of.
- ConnexionsFeatured in Annie Hall (1977)
- Bandes originalesÇa Fait d'Excellents Français
Music by Georges Van Parys
Lyrics by Jean Boyer
Performed by Maurice Chevalier
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Détails
- Date de sortie
- Pays d’origine
- Site officiel
- Langue
- Aussi connu sous le nom de
- Le chagrin et la pitié
- Lieux de tournage
- Clermont-Ferrand, Puy-de-Dôme, France(Main location)
- Sociétés de production
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Box-office
- Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 13 082 $US
- Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 5 224 $US
- 26 févr. 2023
- Montant brut mondial
- 13 082 $US
- Durée
- 4h 11min(251 min)
- Couleur
- Mixage