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Ce plaisir qu'on dit charnel

Titre original : Carnal Knowledge
  • 1971
  • 13
  • 1h 38min
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6,9/10
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Ce plaisir qu'on dit charnel (1971)
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Sandy et Jonathan sont deux amis d'université intéressés par les filles. Alors que Sandy s'est marié avec son premier amour, Jonathan enchaîne les aventures et les relations compliquées qu'i... Tout lireSandy et Jonathan sont deux amis d'université intéressés par les filles. Alors que Sandy s'est marié avec son premier amour, Jonathan enchaîne les aventures et les relations compliquées qu'il raconte à son compère.Sandy et Jonathan sont deux amis d'université intéressés par les filles. Alors que Sandy s'est marié avec son premier amour, Jonathan enchaîne les aventures et les relations compliquées qu'il raconte à son compère.

  • Réalisation
    • Mike Nichols
  • Scénario
    • Jules Feiffer
  • Casting principal
    • Jack Nicholson
    • Candice Bergen
    • Art Garfunkel
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  • NOTE IMDb
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      • Mike Nichols
    • Scénario
      • Jules Feiffer
    • Casting principal
      • Jack Nicholson
      • Candice Bergen
      • Art Garfunkel
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    • Nommé pour 1 Oscar
      • 2 victoires et 5 nominations au total

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    Jack Nicholson
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    • Jonathan
    Candice Bergen
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    • Susan
    Art Garfunkel
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    • Sandy
    • (as Arthur Garfunkel)
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    • Bobbie
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      • Mike Nichols
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      • Jules Feiffer
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    Michael_Elliott

    One of the Greatest Films to Deal with Sex and Relationships

    Carnal Knowledge (1971)

    **** (out of 4)

    Excellent drama from Mike Nichols takes a look at the three decade friendship between two men (Jack Nicholson, Art Garfunkle) and their sex lives. The 1970s brought sex, language and nudity to the big screen and this here was one of the most controversial films of its time but it's also one of the greatest films that has ever dealt with sex and relationships. The movie is brutally raw in its anger, passion and conversations but this is what really makes it stand apart. The dialogue is perfect, the story structure is flawless and we're given some of the best performances that you're ever going to see. I really love the way Nichols structured the picture and especially in the beginning as we see the Garfunkle character fall for a girl (Candice Bergen) but never realizing that Nicholson has gone behind his back and started a relationship with her. The way this love triangle is shown is just flawless in its execution. The middle portion of the film deals with Nicholson's relationship with Bobbie (Ann-Margret) and this too is flawless but incredibly depressing. There's a masterful sequence with the two of them crying and fighting, which is as powerful as anything you're going to see from this era. The entire cast does a fabulous job fitting into their roles. There's no question about Nicholson's brilliance during this era and that includes this film where he plays such a jerk that you can't stand him. The real surprise here is Garfunkel and Ann-Margret, both of them giving the performances of their careers. Nichols' direction is among the best of his career and especially the way he milks the story so well to get every sort of emotion out of it. CARNAL KNOWLEDGE isn't a pretty film to watch due to how ugly the Nicholson character is but it's still one of the best acted films out there and the rawness is something missing from most movies today.
    10Quinoa1984

    "I wouldn't kick her out of bed"

    Mike Nichols directed Jules Feiffer's script of two men in their times with the opposite sexes, beginning with college years, then years later when they have occupations, and settling on middle age. Jack Nicholson creates one of his more complex characters here, which like About Schmidt or The King of Marvin Gardens, doesn't end up the happiest guy in town. His Jonathan is lusting, condescending, scared (deep inside), angry, and intelligent all at once, though never knowing himself well enough to know the one he's getting his rocks off with. On the flip-side his best friend Sandy (Art Garfunkel) is sensitive, unsure, though without a feeling of overt confidence and control like Jonathan has, and that feeling of confidence over the other sex is what keeps them together in discussion, and serves as a tinge in their friendship in their older age.

    In college, Sandy meets Susan (Candice Bergen), and is more of a friend at first, while Susan begins an affair she didn't intend on with Jonathan. This unfolds, and when they graduate and are out in the world Jonathan meets Bobbie (Ann Margaret) who is a pure vixen with, at the behest of Jonathan, is a louse and wanting a commitment Jonathan can't take. The last scene with Rita Moreno, and especially the last shot featuring an ice skater Jonathan saw once, say it all about his character- essentially, as it is with nearly all men, he wants what he can't have.

    Many of the angles and many of the one shots of faces for long stretches, the camera compositions and time length, etc, reminded me of techniques that director Ingmar Bergman used in his movies that dealt with relationships, men with women, and how the desperation in their personalities either become their downfall, or a life lesson later on. In a sense, Carnal Knowledge is Nichols' throwback to Bergman as was Interiors for Woody Allen, though his dealt with the strife in a family and Nichols is a character study dealing in love and sex. Never-the-less, non-art film goers shouldn't be scared off by the notion that Carnal Knowledge is bleak or sterile. It may not be the most cheerful, or an entirely fair to both sexes, but it is important in that it views Jonathan, Sandy, Susan, and Bonnie, as people, and Nichols doesn't force the viewer to judge these people if they don't want to. For its time it was groundbreaking, and today it's almost mature compared to the barrage of "relationship" movies of late. And, if anything, it should have mass appeal to devourers of film acting. Grade: A
    Ben_Cheshire

    You hang on every word of this lively, honest script by cartoonist Jules Feiffer.

    Its a wry, often funny, often sombre drama about the sex lives of two college roommates, Jack Nicholson and Art Garfunkel (who's actually fine in this - much better than in Catch-22) - at college, and in middle age.

    There are really very few movies where the dialogue seems so true and searching, yet funny, that you hang on every word. I can only think of a few - and this is one of them.

    It is episodic, and may be broken into two halves - intentionally, importantly. The heart of the story is in the comparison of the first half and the second: how the two men have or have not changed. If you consider this is the purpose of the film, the two halves are not perfect - but nevertheless a fascinating film.

    Bitterness, nostalgia and melancholy run through this character comedy from the 70's. Its a frank, confronting (depending on the viewer) laying bare of sex. Though there is very little actual sex in the film, this one is definitely only for adults. A penetrating character study, and a richly worded film filled with wit, irony and character penetration by cartoonist Jules Feiffer.

    9/10. Not perfect, but absolutely must-see.
    7claudio_carvalho

    The Relationships of Two Men With Women Along Thirty Years

    The plot begins with Jonathan (Jack Nicholson) and Sandy (Art Garfunkel) roommates in the university. Each one of them has a different behavior and experience with women: Jonathan is cynical, malicious, and selfish. He does not respect anybody (even his best friend is not respected) and just want to have sex. Women are objects for him. Sandy is almost the opposite of Jonathan and has a different approach with women: he is shy and respectful, he does not have much experience with women. These characteristics are presented in the film having Susan (the gorgeous Candice Bergen, the most beautiful actress of the 70's) as pivot. Then the story advances a few years and shows both of them successful in their professions and boring with their mates. The character of Susan (who married Sandy) is just occasionally mentioned and does not appear on the screen any more. Now, we see basically the relationship of Jonathan with Bobbie (the sexy Ann-Margret). Then, there is another jump in time and other relationship of Jonathan and Sandy are presented in this movie, since its essence is about relationship of men and woman having the focus mainly in Jonathan.

    In 1971, I was too young to watch this movie and certainly I would not understand most of the story. Only a couple of days ago I had the chance of seeing it. It is amazing how this movie for adults has not aged. Further, it does not look like an American movie. The camera, the screenplay, it does look like European movie (maybe a little of 'Jules and Jim'). All the actors and actresses have outstanding performance, but certainly Jack Nicholson and Ann-Margret are superb. My vote is seven.

    Title (Brazil): "Ânsia de Amar" ("Eagerness for Love")

    Note: On 18 January 2014, I saw this movie again.
    7daha1120

    Mike Nichols last depressing hurrah

    For the first half hour the characters are so disgusting and terrible, the feeling of bile rising in my throat doesn't subside. These are the people who I have known. And while I cannot bring myself to turn it off, I also can't help but fondly remember watching all of his movies that he made before this one, the spark that say The Graduate or Catch-22 had, and this just feels a little flat. But at the same time, it seems to completely succeed in doing what it sets out to do, creating something suffocatingly real, like watching the most depressing moments in my life played back for me with dim lighting and blonder actresses. The fact that Candice Bergen goes away after that also helps. Upper middle class ennui is something that's almost always tedious to watch, but this is actually affecting. Nonetheless, this feels like the beginning of the end for Mike Nichols. He would never again make anything on a level with Catch-22, and he followed this one up with Day of the Dolphins. Seriously. wtf. Also for the curious, pop star Arthur Garfunkle (as the back of the DVD box puts it) gives a surprisingly strong performance in this.

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    • Anecdotes
      Mr. Jenkins, a theater manager in Albany, Georgia was convicted of obscenity-related charges in 1972 for showing the film in his establishment, due to its frank depictions of sex and nudity, with police seizing the print of the film and the Georgia Supreme Court upholding the conviction. The U.S. Supreme Court later struck down the conviction in the 1974 Jenkins v. Georgia case, ruling that the movie was not obscene, and the law that was used to convict the manager was unconstitutional. As a result, Avco Embassy re-released the film to theaters using the tagline "The United States Supreme Court has ruled that 'Carnal Knowledge' is not obscene. See it now!".
    • Gaffes
      In the shower, when Sandy is shaving and Jonathan is taking a shower in the background, it can be seen that Jack Nicholson is wearing red shorts in the shower even though the steam on the mirror was supposed to hide the shorts.
    • Citations

      Bobbie: The reason I sleep all day is because I can't stand my life!

      Jonathan: What life?

      Bobbie: Sleeping all day!

    • Connexions
      Edited into Ann-Margret: Från Valsjöbyn till Hollywood (2014)
    • Bandes originales
      Moonlight Serenade
      (uncredited)

      Written by Glenn Miller

      Performed by Glenn Miller and His Orchestra

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    • Date de sortie
      • 23 février 1972 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Ansia de amar
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Vancouver, Colombie-Britannique, Canada
    • Société de production
      • Embassy Pictures
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    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 33 668 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 7 731 $US
      • 4 sept. 2022
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 33 989 $US
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    • Durée
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    • Rapport de forme
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