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Eros + massacre

Titre original : Erosu purasu gyakusatsu
  • 1969
  • Not Rated
  • 3h 36min
NOTE IMDb
7,4/10
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Eros + massacre (1969)
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Deux histoires entrelacées. La première, une biographie de l'anarchiste Sake Osugi narre sa relation avec trois femmes dans les années 20. La deuxième est centrée sur deux étudiantes des ann... Tout lireDeux histoires entrelacées. La première, une biographie de l'anarchiste Sake Osugi narre sa relation avec trois femmes dans les années 20. La deuxième est centrée sur deux étudiantes des années 60 faisant des recherches sur les théories d'Osugi.Deux histoires entrelacées. La première, une biographie de l'anarchiste Sake Osugi narre sa relation avec trois femmes dans les années 20. La deuxième est centrée sur deux étudiantes des années 60 faisant des recherches sur les théories d'Osugi.

  • Réalisation
    • Yoshishige Yoshida
  • Scénario
    • Masahiro Yamada
    • Yoshishige Yoshida
  • Casting principal
    • Mariko Okada
    • Toshiyuki Hosokawa
    • Yûko Kusunoki
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    • Réalisation
      • Yoshishige Yoshida
    • Scénario
      • Masahiro Yamada
      • Yoshishige Yoshida
    • Casting principal
      • Mariko Okada
      • Toshiyuki Hosokawa
      • Yûko Kusunoki
    • 14avis d'utilisateurs
    • 19avis des critiques
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    Rôles principaux22

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    Mariko Okada
    Mariko Okada
    • Noe Ito…
    Toshiyuki Hosokawa
    Toshiyuki Hosokawa
    • Sakae Osugi
    Yûko Kusunoki
    Yûko Kusunoki
    • Itsuko Masaoka
    Etsushi Takahashi
    Etsushi Takahashi
    • Jun Tsuji
    Masako Yagi
    • Yasuko Hori
    Taiko Shinbashi
    • Chiyoko
    Kazuko Inano
    • Aicho Hiraga
    Kinji Matsueda
    • Toshihiko Sakai
    Kazunori Miyazaki
    • Rickshaw Man
    Takehiko Takagi
    • Hiroshi Okumura
    Yoshisada Sakaguchi
    Yoshisada Sakaguchi
    • Araya Kimura
    Toshiko Ii
    • Eiko Sokutai
    Midori Tamai
    • Megumi Taroi
    Daijirô Harada
    • Kenji Wada
    Kyûzô Kawabe
    • Mitsuru Unema
    Kikuo Kaneuchi
    • Masaji Tashiro
    Katsuya Kobayashi
    Kei Yoshimizu
    • Réalisation
      • Yoshishige Yoshida
    • Scénario
      • Masahiro Yamada
      • Yoshishige Yoshida
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    10kagetsuhisoka

    Yoshishige Yoshida's Masterpiece! A formal guide-line to understand the Japanese New Wave.

    This one, plus Oshima's Koshikei (Death by Hanging, 1968), Matsumoto's Bara no Soretsu (Funeral Parade of Roses, 1969), Shinoda's Shinjû: Ten no amijima (Double Suicide, 1969) and Terayama's Den'en ni shisu (Pastoral : to Die in the Country, 1974), are maybe the great accomplishments of the Japanese New Wave. Here, Yoshida starts the last political trilogy about Japanese Past and Present (Eros plus Massacre, Heroic Purgatory and Coup D'etat) using a distinctive aesthetics proving that his Cinema contains some sort of a Metamorfosical ethic.

    In fact, the movie builds an omnipresent dialectic between spectator and characters. History and Symbolic Representation. According to Pascal BONITZER, the "plus" of the tittle is a metonymy for the movie relation and revelation: "You must play too, because you can't dominate it. You must attach, dis-attach, and transform one and another: «Eros» and «Massacre». The spectator is the local of application. The spectator is the plus (+)."
    7Jeremy_Urquhart

    Difficult and intriguing

    Just about any film that exceeds 3.5 hours in length is going to be a challenging watch, but this one even more so. Eros + Massacre loosely follows a real-life free-thinking radical (who talks big but doesn't actually do much, at least in the movie) whose life is complicated by the fact that he's in a relationship with three different women. Other scenes follow two young people in the 1960s, who talk about this historical figure, have an obsession with fire, and similarly have lofty ideas but lack the know-how or resources to rebel their way they want to. The characters from the past and (then) present also collide at points, in strange and surreal ways.

    It's hard to read into exactly what the movie's going for. I'd want to assume it's being critical of its characters for the most part, or maybe satirical about revolutionaries/radicals who say they want change but stay stuck in their ways? Honestly, this film's so overwhelming I could be way off.

    It makes for an interesting watch, though. I've never seen anything else quite like it. Without a doubt, it's also beautiful to look at. There's very little going on visually that looks ordinary or traditional, and some very ambitious camerawork and bizarre yet compellingly framed shots throughout.

    As sacrilegious as it sounds, if I revisit this one day, I might watch the 160-minute version, even if the 3.5-hour one is the director's cut. At about the 165-minute mark was where I felt my attention start to wane a little bit, in all honesty.

    (Also RIP to the film's director, Yoshishige Yoshida. Just so happened to watch this the day it was announced he passed away, at age 89).
    6zetes

    Pretty, but dull

    The Japanese New Wave is one of my favorite cinematic movements, and this film comes recommended as one of the best of its era. Very unfortunately, it didn't do much for me at all. The one thing about it that I'll say right off the bat really impressed me was the cinematography. No time and place ever produced such gorgeous black and white movies, and this is up there with the best.

    The film itself, though, is very slow-moving, kind of pretentious, and uninvolving. The story involves two timelines, one set in the Taisho period (starting in 1916) and the other in the present. It's about free love and the sexual revolution. In 1916, the philosopher Sakae Osugi practices and writes about free love. I'm pretty sure the Japanese word for philosopher translates literally in English to "aloof jerk," because this guy's version of free love is to screw around with different women and then say "Why can't you be chill about this?" when they confront him. In particular, Itsuko Masaoka becomes wildly jealous when he starts seeing Noe Ito on the side. She begins brandishing a knife, always threatening to get stabby with it. Late in the movie, there are like three consecutive sequences that take up a good quarter of the movie where she fulfills her promise.

    The 1960s stuff involves two students who are studying Osugi. They have their own problems, but want to subscribe to the free love idea, which seems to be expanding around the world. At least in the director's cut, these segments take up only about a quarter of the film.

    Look, I don't generally do well with long films, and perhaps this one's 3 hours and 36 minutes were just too daunting for me. The fact is, though, from the very beginning I was pretty bored with this one. 90% of the scenes just involve two or three people sitting around in a room bickering. I give Yoshida much credit for keeping it visually interesting throughout. The guy definitely has talent, but I wonder if this independently produced art film gave him too much freedom. Maybe he'd be better reigned in.

    Whatever the case, I'm still perfectly happy to have this new Arrow Academy box set. Outside of Criterion, they're the best home video production company today. I hope I like the other two films better, and I hope one day I get to take a look at Yoshida's earlier, studio-produced films.
    4claudio_carvalho

    Wonderful Cinematography and Framing, Unconventional Camera Angles and a Messy and Prolix Screenplay

    In the 20's, the anarchist revolutionary Sakae Osugi (Toshiyuki Hosokawa) is financially supported by his wife, the journalist Itsuko Masaoka (Yûko Kusunoki) and spends his time doing nothing but philosophizing about political systems and free love and shagging his lovers Yasuko (Masako Yagi) and the earlier feminist Noe Ito (Mariko Okada). He conveniently defends three principles for a relationship between a man and a woman: they should be financially independent (despite he is not); they should live in different places; and they should be free to have intercourse with other partners.

    In the present days (1969), the slut twenty year-old student Eiko Sokuta has an active sexual life having sex with different men. She has a freak friend named Wada (Daijiro Harada) that is obsessed for fire and they usually play weird games using a camera while they read about Osugi and Ito.

    "Erosu Purasu Gyakusatsu" a.k.a. "Eros Plus Massacre" has just been released in Brazil and I immediately bought this DVD for my collection. Unfortunately I can not understand the hype surrounding this film, and I was absolutely disappointed after watching it. The cinematography and framing are wonderful; the angles of the camera are unconventional; the acting is great; however the messy and prolix screenplay ruin the good aspects of this feature.

    The cult director Yoshishige Yoshida is unable to use an adequate narrative for entwining two parallel stories, one of them based on a true story of a man and three women ahead of the time living a free love among them in times of repression, and an empty couple in the late 60's when the movement of free love is worldwide. Yoshida does not develop the background of the Japanese society in the 20's and limits to the repetitive situations of jealousy and despair of the women in love. After 210 minutes running time (the DVD has intermission), the boring and never-ending story is not totally clear for the viewer. This feature should have been edited and reduced of at least 120 minutes since the situations are very repetitive. Last but not the least, the actress that performs Eiko is very sexy and beautiful, but her name is not listed in IMDb. My vote is four.

    Title (Brazil): "Eros + Massacre"
    10mingus_x

    still fresh after 33 years

    The opening sequence is framed an cut in such a modern way that you would think that you are in a movie of the present. It totally graps your attention and doesn't let go till the end.

    If you have any chance to see this movie in the original 202min. cut - use it !!

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    • Anecdotes
      Ichiko Kamichika, one of the characters from the film, was an active politician in the '60s who threatened to sue director 'Yoshishige Yoshida' for violation of privacy should this film be released uncut (to avoid legal issues in the first place, her name in the film was changed to Itsuko Masaoka). Thus, Yoshida was forced to cut a number of scenes centered around her. For a long time, the shorter cut of the film was the only one available.
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      Opening Text: Drunk upon the happiness of decadence, this film is a dialogue with you and I, the ambiguous participants in the erotica and revolutions of Sakae Osugi and Noe Ito, whose lives were dedicated to the beauty of chaos.

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    • Date de sortie
      • 15 octobre 1969 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Japon
    • Langue
      • Japonais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Eros + Massacre
    • Sociétés de production
      • Gendai Eigasha
      • Bungakuza
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    • Montant brut mondial
      • 8 017 $US
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    • Durée
      3 heures 36 minutes
    • Couleur
      • Black and White
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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