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Eros + massacre

Titre original : Erosu purasu gyakusatsu
  • 1969
  • Not Rated
  • 3h 36min
NOTE IMDb
7,4/10
2,4 k
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Eros + massacre (1969)
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Deux histoires entrelacées. La première, une biographie de l'anarchiste Sake Osugi narre sa relation avec trois femmes dans les années 20. La deuxième est centrée sur deux étudiantes des ann... Tout lireDeux histoires entrelacées. La première, une biographie de l'anarchiste Sake Osugi narre sa relation avec trois femmes dans les années 20. La deuxième est centrée sur deux étudiantes des années 60 faisant des recherches sur les théories d'Osugi.Deux histoires entrelacées. La première, une biographie de l'anarchiste Sake Osugi narre sa relation avec trois femmes dans les années 20. La deuxième est centrée sur deux étudiantes des années 60 faisant des recherches sur les théories d'Osugi.

  • Réalisation
    • Yoshishige Yoshida
  • Scénario
    • Masahiro Yamada
    • Yoshishige Yoshida
  • Casting principal
    • Mariko Okada
    • Toshiyuki Hosokawa
    • Yûko Kusunoki
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  • NOTE IMDb
    7,4/10
    2,4 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Yoshishige Yoshida
    • Scénario
      • Masahiro Yamada
      • Yoshishige Yoshida
    • Casting principal
      • Mariko Okada
      • Toshiyuki Hosokawa
      • Yûko Kusunoki
    • 14avis d'utilisateurs
    • 19avis des critiques
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    Rôles principaux22

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    Mariko Okada
    Mariko Okada
    • Noe Ito…
    Toshiyuki Hosokawa
    Toshiyuki Hosokawa
    • Sakae Osugi
    Yûko Kusunoki
    Yûko Kusunoki
    • Itsuko Masaoka
    Etsushi Takahashi
    Etsushi Takahashi
    • Jun Tsuji
    Masako Yagi
    • Yasuko Hori
    Taiko Shinbashi
    • Chiyoko
    Kazuko Inano
    • Aicho Hiraga
    Kinji Matsueda
    • Toshihiko Sakai
    Kazunori Miyazaki
    • Rickshaw Man
    Takehiko Takagi
    • Hiroshi Okumura
    Yoshisada Sakaguchi
    Yoshisada Sakaguchi
    • Araya Kimura
    Toshiko Ii
    • Eiko Sokutai
    Midori Tamai
    • Megumi Taroi
    Daijirô Harada
    • Kenji Wada
    Kyûzô Kawabe
    • Mitsuru Unema
    Kikuo Kaneuchi
    • Masaji Tashiro
    Katsuya Kobayashi
    Kei Yoshimizu
    • Réalisation
      • Yoshishige Yoshida
    • Scénario
      • Masahiro Yamada
      • Yoshishige Yoshida
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    8XxEthanHuntxX

    Suggestiv - a low 8

    Baffling and skillfully shot Eros + Massacre is far from easy to digest. A complex story with ton to explore and interpret. I feel frustrated that I have to see this film ones more to give it a faire rating, my concern though, is that it displays' more intelligent that it really is.
    10mingus_x

    still fresh after 33 years

    The opening sequence is framed an cut in such a modern way that you would think that you are in a movie of the present. It totally graps your attention and doesn't let go till the end.

    If you have any chance to see this movie in the original 202min. cut - use it !!
    8algroth_1

    Dreaming of love and anarchy.

    Possibly one of the most ambitious works in the entire Japanese New Wave, and certainly Kiju Yoshida's most experimental film (to date). As Yoshida and lead actress Mariko Okada said when they gave their rather extensive introduction to the film, what they wanted to achieve with it was to not just portray the protagonist's history as an event of the past but rather place both his story and struggle and the audience on a same temporal plain. The results might have been a lot more successful for its time of release, but it's still a fascinating effort all along.

    Essentially, the film treats the work and death of anarchist Sakae Osugi as seen through the eyes of two characters in different timelines, being his long-time lover Noe Ito (Mariko Osada) and a teenage couple living out his "free love" revolution, going over his biography, who discuss and propose different scenarios that may have happened during his life, such as a notorious event when he was stabbed by his wife which is replayed and deconstructed in an almost Rashomon-like fashion.

    Yoshida mentioned in his introduction that he wanted to structure the film like a dream, in a place where we could flow freely from past to present and back again but in a manner that seemed to make a narrative/structural sense, like how we forget of these lapses while we dream even though they were there. I found it interesting how he made reference to these two timelines as almost separate events joined through a mere montage trick, however, when the actual way he solves this temporal obfuscation is by blending both timelines within the same mise-en-scene, like these characters and stories are merely a panel away from each other. The modern-day characters are surrounded by the locations that Osugi once inhabited, whereas the love triangle developed between Noe, Itsumi (a former lover of Osugi) and the revolutionary occur in locations that are highly artificial and clearly modern, but which also reflect Osugi's ever-growing disdain towards the world he lives in and his conceptions of "free love". It's this quality of juxtaposing temporalities is what gives it a more oneiric feeling to me than the mere disjointed structure with which this story fledges out.

    Another point of interest which struck me as odd considering the way Yoshida introduced his film is that, whereas he appeared to act very reverently towards the anarchist and how he seemingly was interested in conserving his ideology and not reducing the man to yet another historical figure of whom to make another biopic from, there seemed to be a pretty critical, even satirical tone held throughout to his ideology. There are some sequences within where he freely speaks of his notions of love and government, but these come as firstly apparently shallow, and secondly as little more than a lot of charlatanry. He speaks and writes a lot about these ideals but later says he's unable to defend them publicly because he's constantly surveilled, while on other sequences he seems to completely alter or even outright reject his ideals just to make an argument to defend his love (or lack thereof) to a woman or another. On the other hand, the students doing the investigation are also living in a time where much of Osugi's conceptions of love are coming to fruition, but they do so from the hands of people who seem to do that as a means to clash against the past and little more, and whose musings sound a lot like the classic college lefty monologues which just repeat vapid speeches and ideals against the "system" while drinking a can of Coca-Cola and wearing Levi's jeans and Nike trainers. In a sense, I feel the film is a deliberate case study on the vanity and frivolity in revolution, all the while not taking away merits from the essence of these movements' essential ideals.

    There is, I believe, one problem that defines just why this film was not the masterpiece that so many of Imamura's films were, and that's a problem with the aesthetic. The visuals in this film, the very complex narrative structure, they're all fascinating elements on their own accord, and it's likely that the film would have never been this wonderful without them, but unlike the work of the aforementioned filmmaker, all of this aesthetic innovation appears as a forced, individual element in the film. You never feel like it is something that blossoms naturally from the development of the themes and ideas, or from the position of the characters themselves. Often you're drawn into just how amazing the form is, to the point that you occasionally forget what is going on. It's like both what is being told and how it's being told exist in two very different through equally mesmerizing plains. Also, the way in which the present is depicted in the film is something that refers a lot back tot he time it was made, and nowadays one can't help but feel like the film is a product of its time as opposed to the timeless products of Imamura, Teshigahara, Shinoda, Kobayashi and the likes.

    Either way, it's an excellent film all around, certainly the best, the most complex and enlightening work I've seen of Yoshida, a definitive milestone for anyone interested in the 60's Japanese scene.
    4Musicianmagic

    Too long. Too confusing. Too nonsensical

    I was told I'd love this film. Instead I hated it. The only thing I liked was the creative cinematography but even that was overdone. There is two stories, one in the past and one in the present (1969 when this film was made) and most of the time when it switches from one to the other, it made little sense. In fact, most of this movie didn't make sense.

    There was about ten minutes of story. A lot a time is spent on surreal photography. To much time. There is one scene or plotline they did like 7 or 8 different versions of. After the second or third time I really didn't care. The acting was good but I didn't care about the characters. The ending was an even larger disappointment. It didn't really tie things up.

    After 3 and a half hours of this, was there a point to this movie? This was part of a trilogy and I'll skip the other two. You should skip all three.
    7Jeremy_Urquhart

    Difficult and intriguing

    Just about any film that exceeds 3.5 hours in length is going to be a challenging watch, but this one even more so. Eros + Massacre loosely follows a real-life free-thinking radical (who talks big but doesn't actually do much, at least in the movie) whose life is complicated by the fact that he's in a relationship with three different women. Other scenes follow two young people in the 1960s, who talk about this historical figure, have an obsession with fire, and similarly have lofty ideas but lack the know-how or resources to rebel their way they want to. The characters from the past and (then) present also collide at points, in strange and surreal ways.

    It's hard to read into exactly what the movie's going for. I'd want to assume it's being critical of its characters for the most part, or maybe satirical about revolutionaries/radicals who say they want change but stay stuck in their ways? Honestly, this film's so overwhelming I could be way off.

    It makes for an interesting watch, though. I've never seen anything else quite like it. Without a doubt, it's also beautiful to look at. There's very little going on visually that looks ordinary or traditional, and some very ambitious camerawork and bizarre yet compellingly framed shots throughout.

    As sacrilegious as it sounds, if I revisit this one day, I might watch the 160-minute version, even if the 3.5-hour one is the director's cut. At about the 165-minute mark was where I felt my attention start to wane a little bit, in all honesty.

    (Also RIP to the film's director, Yoshishige Yoshida. Just so happened to watch this the day it was announced he passed away, at age 89).

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      Ichiko Kamichika, one of the characters from the film, was an active politician in the '60s who threatened to sue director 'Yoshishige Yoshida' for violation of privacy should this film be released uncut (to avoid legal issues in the first place, her name in the film was changed to Itsuko Masaoka). Thus, Yoshida was forced to cut a number of scenes centered around her. For a long time, the shorter cut of the film was the only one available.
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      Opening Text: Drunk upon the happiness of decadence, this film is a dialogue with you and I, the ambiguous participants in the erotica and revolutions of Sakae Osugi and Noe Ito, whose lives were dedicated to the beauty of chaos.

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    • Date de sortie
      • 15 octobre 1969 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Japon
    • Langue
      • Japonais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Eros + Massacre
    • Sociétés de production
      • Gendai Eigasha
      • Bungakuza
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      • 8 017 $US
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    • Durée
      3 heures 36 minutes
    • Couleur
      • Black and White
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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