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Si douces, si perverses

Titre original : Così dolce... così perversa
  • 1969
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  • 1h 32min
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Jean-Louis Trintignant, Carroll Baker, and Erika Blanc in Si douces, si perverses (1969)
Regarder Complete Lenzi/Baker Giallo Collection Official Trailer
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueAn unhappily married Parisian industrialist is pulled into a web of lust and deception after he seemingly rescues his new neighbor from her abusive boyfriend.An unhappily married Parisian industrialist is pulled into a web of lust and deception after he seemingly rescues his new neighbor from her abusive boyfriend.An unhappily married Parisian industrialist is pulled into a web of lust and deception after he seemingly rescues his new neighbor from her abusive boyfriend.

  • Réalisation
    • Umberto Lenzi
  • Scénario
    • Massimo D'Avak
    • Luciano Martino
    • Ernesto Gastaldi
  • Casting principal
    • Carroll Baker
    • Jean-Louis Trintignant
    • Erika Blanc
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    • Réalisation
      • Umberto Lenzi
    • Scénario
      • Massimo D'Avak
      • Luciano Martino
      • Ernesto Gastaldi
    • Casting principal
      • Carroll Baker
      • Jean-Louis Trintignant
      • Erika Blanc
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    • 24avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Carroll Baker
    Carroll Baker
    • Nicole Perrier
    Jean-Louis Trintignant
    Jean-Louis Trintignant
    • Jean Reynaud
    • (as Jean Louis Trintignant)
    Erika Blanc
    Erika Blanc
    • Danielle Reynaud
    Horst Frank
    Horst Frank
    • Klaus
    Helga Liné
    Helga Liné
    • Helene Valmont
    Ermelinda De Felice
    • Hotel Proprietor
    Giovanni Di Benedetto
    • Monsieur Valmont
    • (as Gianni Di Benedetto)
    Irio Fantini
    • Party Guest
    Dario Michaelis
    • Police Commissioner
    Renato Pinciroli
    • Porter
    Gianni Pulone
    • Press Photographer
    Lucio Rama
    • Party Guest
    Paola Scalzi
    • Helene's Friend
    Luigi Sportelli
    • Party Guest
    Beryl Cunningham
    Beryl Cunningham
    • Black Stripper
    Marcello Bonini Olas
    • Party Guest
    • (non crédité)
    Anna Scalzi
    • Jean's Secretary
    • (non crédité)
    Alessandro Tedeschi
    • Uomo Della Commissione
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Umberto Lenzi
    • Scénario
      • Massimo D'Avak
      • Luciano Martino
      • Ernesto Gastaldi
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    4tomgillespie2002

    Plodding early giallo from Umberto Lenzi

    The giallo may have been pioneered by the great Mario Bava and spectacularly refined by Dario Argento, but Umberto Lenzi was developing the techniques and stylings we now know and love from the mid-1960s. Before he became known for schlocky horror trash like Eaten Alive!, Nightmare City and Cannibal Ferox, Lenzi was toying with rich socialites and exploring pulpy, dime-store stories that often involved ridiculous, labyrinthine plots, psychedelic interiors, and beautiful, untrustworthy women. These are all ingredients of the giallo, and some of these early Lenzi efforts hint at a director with an eye for kitschy visuals, something that certainly doesn't come to mind when you watch a native tribesman scalp a poor traveller in the despicable Cannibal Ferox. These eye-catching visuals are certainly present in his 1969 film So Sweet... So Perverse, but there isn't much else to hold the attention in this plodding soap opera.

    Handsome, jet-setting socialite Jean Reynaud (Jean-Louis Trintignant) enjoys a lavish lifestyle of cocktail parties and shooting ranges, but he has grown bored and frustrated with the lack of passion in his marriage to the beautiful Danielle (Erika Blanc). To counter this, Jean sleeps with anybody who happens to catch his eye, including his friend Helene (Helga Line), and his head is turned by the woman who has just moved upstairs, Nicole (Carroll Baker). When he hears screams coming from above, he rushes to Nicole's aid, learning that she is stuck in an abusive sexual relationship with her husband Klaus (Horst Frank). As they spend more time together, the couple inevitably fall in love, yet whenever they escape for a weekend, Klaus always manages to track them down. After a night of passion, Nicole reveals that she and Klaus have actually been paid a hefty sum to lure in and eventually kill Jean, but that the one doing the hiring has not yet revealed themselves.

    With such a cool-sounding title (yet another famous trait of the gialli), there is nothing sweet and little perverse about the film itself. Argento eventually set a high standard for story-telling and the slow-building of tension within a vital set-piece, and the likes of Lucio Fulci and Sergio Martino added gory violence and a graceful style into the mix, but So Sweet... So Perverse is frustratingly tame, failing to ignite much interest in the plot or generate any excitement when events take a more sinister tone. Where Lenzi ultimately excels is in the glossy cinematography and dazzling interiors, which are garish enough to amusingly satirise the world of these detached characters and their materialistic lifestyles. Images of sun-drenched locations, expensive suits and beautiful, provocative women add a sleazy glamour and seductive glaze to the film, a hedonistic way-of-life Lenzi is happy to indulge as he shrewdly condemns it. It isn't quite enough to prevent So Sweet... So Perverse from becoming little more than a curious cinematic artefact, that ultimately paved the way for better directors to come along and take this new genre by the scruff.
    Dethcharm

    "Look, I'm Exhausted By Your Stupid Suspicions!"...

    A zillionaire (Jean-Louis Trintignant) strays from his frigid wife Danielle (Erika Blanc), winding up in an affair with a woman named Nicole (Carroll Baker). All goes well until Nicole's ex-lover Klaus (Horst Frank) starts creeping around.

    SO SWEET... SO PERVERSE is a twisty giallo from Director Umberto Lenzi. The story seems to take its cues from DIABOLIQUE. While not quite as masterful as that film this movie does have its memorable moments, especially during the finale.

    Ms.' Baker and Blanc are as beautifully beguiling as ever, and Frank is extraordinarily sinister! He's always been a good heavy, and uses his skills well here...
    7The_Void

    One of Lenzi's best Giallo's!

    Umberto Lenzi Giallo's range in quality from sublime to trash, but his earlier genre entries tended to be the best; and So Sweet...So Perverse is certainly at the higher end of Lenzi's Giallo achievements. One of the trademarks of Giallo is a high dosage of sex scenes; but despite the fact that this film has the word 'perverse' in it's title; So Sweet...So Perverse is actually not all that perverse at all, especially not by Giallo standards. Rather, the film focuses more on the plot details than perversity, and it just about serves it well. Italian directors were famous for ripping of successful films from other countries, and the plot here is clearly lifted from the French classic 'Les Diaboliques'. We focus on a couple with marital problems; Jean and Danielle. When Jean hears a woman screaming in the upstairs apartment one day, he immediately decides to investigate. There he finds Nicole; a woman frightened of her boyfriend Klaus. The pair soon begin to fall in love, but it later transpires that this was just a trap set to snare Jean...

    So Sweet...So Perverse is a classy little thriller and much unlike later Lenzi Giallo's such as Eyeball, almost everything about the film is well done. The film benefits from a good cast, which feature early Lenzi muse Carroll Baker in the central female. Baker's role here initially appears to be a lot like her role in the earlier 'Orgasmo', but she soon gets to switch to a more interesting character. Baker is joined by the sexy Erika Blanc, and like most Giallo's with two sexy leading women; the pair do get to get it on, although you shouldn't go in expecting a full blown lesbian sex scene. Jean-Louis Trintignant rounds off the cast, but isn't given as much to do as the ladies. The plot does get a bit slow at times, but the film never slows down to the point of becoming boring. The second half is much more exciting than the first as that is when the plot gets into full flow. When the twists start to come into play, So Sweet...So Perverse really is an intriguing thriller and unlike many Giallo's, this one also features an ending that wraps most of the plot up nicely. This film is highly recommended to Giallo fans!
    lazarillo

    Great Giallo! (I think)

    This movie (not to be confused with another Carroll Baker vehicle "Kiss Me, Kill Me" aka "Baba Yagi--the Witch")is Umberto Lenzi's follow-up to his groundbreaking classic "Paranoia". It came out the same year as Dario Argento's "The Bird with Crystal Plumage" (the film which started the deluge of Italian gialli) and was produced by the Martino brothers, who later made a number of interesting giallo films (usually featuring Eugenio Martino's alluring mistress, Edwige Fenech). It stars Carroll Baker, demonstrating her acting chops here by playing a character that is the exact opposite of the naive victim she played in "Paranoia", and it also features two excellent, native European actors--Jean Loius Trintignant and the gorgeous Erica Blanc. The script is surprisingly well-written and full of suspense and genuine surprises. It is a clever variation on the classic French film "Diabolique" with a decadent, high-society husband (Tritignant), wife (Blanc), and mistress (Baker) all crossing and double-crossing each other. It cleverly plays with the viewers awareness of the earlier film before throwing in an unexpected curve.

    It also seems to be very well filmed. (It's hard to believe that years later Lenzi would be making nauseating and inept cannibal films like "Cannibal Ferox" or just plain inept American slasher movies like "Hitcher in the Dark"). I say seems, however, because this film is only available on second or third generation copies of Greek videotapes that are not only panned-and-scanned, but are very badly panned-and-scanned so that the characters are often halfway off the screen. Trying to appreciate this movie is like trying to appreciate a beautiful painting that has both sides cropped off and is covered with really murky cellophane (and burnt-in Greek subtitles). If Lenzi's crap movies like "Ferox", "Hitcher", and even, god help us all,"Eaten Alive", can get the star DVD treatment, why can't "Paranoia" or this little gem?

    Oh, but I almost forgot--despite the title there isn't too much perversity here. Baker has a lot more nude scenes in "Paranoia". There is some Blanc-related nudity (although, in my opinion, you can never have enough of that), but the lesbian relationship between the two of them is unfortunately only hinted at. Of course, it may just have been cropped out. . .
    8kannibalcorpsegrinder

    Fun and enjoyable thriller effort

    Trying to keep their marriage afloat, a man begins to be slowly drawn to his new upstairs neighbor and begins to woe her even though she claims to be in danger, and when it proves true as he becomes a stranger's target tries to get to the bottom of her stories to be able to save her.

    This was a rather solid and enjoyable outing. Among its best features comes from the strong build-up to the overall thriller aspects here. As this one generates some intriguing elements here with the strained, loveless marriage fueled by his unfaithfulness, the potential intrigue of a new relationship with the upstairs neighbor and the baggage she brings featuring the troubled relationship involving the strange man following him around creates an engaging setup. As everything gets equal timing to where his womanizing matters interfere with their marriage and their new burgeoning romance at the expense of his time around his wife gives everything a nice clarity. There's also quite a lot to like as the series of games that emerge from this setup. As the idea of the stranger following them is also planning to kill him by using her as bait in the orchestrated plan, there's a fine intrigue at play here with the change in loyalty involving who she's really playing for as the constant claims of his mistreatment towards her contradicting her claims of what she's doing it for. The exceptional twist about their game gets played off masterfully about the necessary steps to carry it out which is a logical plan to think through in how this thoughtfully changes everyone's allegiances when all the pieces get revealed. As this setup gives the film a lot to like regarding the sleaze elements on display, there's quite a lot to like with this one. There are some issues to be had here. One of the main problems is the somewhat sluggish first half that doesn't develop much in the way of a thriller setup. Since it focuses on his cheating and romancing the neighbor in such a lazy manner, this doesn't offer much in the way of excitement as there's nothing about why he does. Despite being incredibly attractive, there's nothing given here about why he goes for her as deep as he does as quickly after meeting, overall making this feel somewhat underwhelming. The other real issue is a somewhat problematic factor in the second half where the twists are revealed and the hysterical screaming doesn't seem realistic to the setup since everything's gone to plan but instead this just feels highly unrealistic about the purpose for it. While none of these are truly detrimental, they do lower this slightly.

    Rated Unrated/R: Nudity, Sex Scenes, Language and Mild Violence.

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      Second part of a trilogy also including Une folle envie d'aimer (1969) and Formule un (1970).
    • Gaffes
      Aerial shots of Jean skiing behind a boat show the stunt double jumping the wake, and skiing, one-handed, far to the side on the open water, switch back and forth between close-ups of Jean-Claude Trintingant, but in the close-ups he is always in the wake, both hands on grips, directly behind the boat.
    • Citations

      Black Stripper: Taking your clothes off isn't any problem, you know, when there's enough loot.

      Monsieur Valmont: They say she can be great when she's tight.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Yellow Fever: The Rise and Fall of the Giallo (2016)
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      Sung by J. Vincent Edwards (as J. Vincent Edward)

      Music by Riz Ortolani

      Lyrics by Norman Newell

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    • Date de sortie
      • 26 février 1971 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Italie
      • France
      • Allemagne de l'Ouest
    • Langue
      • Italien
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • So Sweet... So Perverse
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Punta Ala, Castiglione della Pescaia, Grosseto, Tuscany, Italie(scene by the sea)
    • Sociétés de production
      • Cedic
      • Flora Film
      • Rapid Film
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      • 1h 32min(92 min)
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    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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