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Désir sous les ormes

Titre original : Desire Under the Elms
  • 1958
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  • 1h 51min
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Désir sous les ormes (1958)
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DramaRomance

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueDesperation and secret passions on a family farm lead to tragedy.Desperation and secret passions on a family farm lead to tragedy.Desperation and secret passions on a family farm lead to tragedy.

  • Réalisation
    • Delbert Mann
  • Scénario
    • Irwin Shaw
    • Eugene O'Neill
  • Casting principal
    • Sophia Loren
    • Anthony Perkins
    • Burl Ives
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,5/10
    1,5 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Delbert Mann
    • Scénario
      • Irwin Shaw
      • Eugene O'Neill
    • Casting principal
      • Sophia Loren
      • Anthony Perkins
      • Burl Ives
    • 30avis d'utilisateurs
    • 9avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Nommé pour 1 Oscar
      • 3 nominations au total

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    Desire Under the Elms

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    Sophia Loren
    Sophia Loren
    • Anna…
    Anthony Perkins
    Anthony Perkins
    • Eben…
    Burl Ives
    Burl Ives
    • Ephraim…
    Frank Overton
    Frank Overton
    • Simeon…
    Pernell Roberts
    Pernell Roberts
    • Peter…
    Rebecca Welles
    Rebecca Welles
    • Lucinda Cabot
    • (as Rebecca Wells)
    Jean Willes
    Jean Willes
    • Florence Cabot
    Anne Seymour
    Anne Seymour
    • Eben's Mother
    Roy Fant
    • Fiddler
    Edna Bennett
    • Housewife Gossip
    • (non crédité)
    Florine Carlan
    • Young Girl
    • (non crédité)
    Robert Cass
    • Seth
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    • …
    Vera Denham
    • Farm Woman
    • (non crédité)
    Harvey B. Dunn
    • Farmer
    • (non crédité)
    Dick Elliott
    Dick Elliott
    • Old Farmer
    • (non crédité)
    Jamie Forster
    • Farmer
    • (non crédité)
    Greta Granstedt
    Greta Granstedt
    • Men
    • (non crédité)
    Sandra Harrison
    • Young Girl
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Delbert Mann
    • Scénario
      • Irwin Shaw
      • Eugene O'Neill
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    6moonspinner55

    Sophia Loren comes to Hollywood...results are mixed

    After a couple of studio films shot on location, Italian actress and sex symbol Sophia Loren finally made it onto Hollywood soil for this uneven, uncertain melodrama adapted from Eugene O'Neill's controversial play. A tyrannical New England farmer (Burl Ives), who apparently worked his past two wives to death, brings home a new wife to meet his sons--two of whom take off for California and the third (Anthony Perkins) who stays and eventually falls in love with the Mrs. The performers seem to be at a mismatch with this very strange material; though they try hard, the heavy prose and illogical situations would be enough to defeat anybody. The character motivations aren't always clear, not helped by the narrative which, at a crucial point, jumps ahead in time and nearly alienates the audience. Ives gives a full-throttle, blustery-old-windbag performance which infuses the scenario with a prickly tension (and the screenplay surprisingly never scores points against him), but glinty-eyed Loren is a bit out of her depth. Still, she survives the absurd final reel with her dignity intact, while the picture ends on such a dour note that the overall impression is one of supreme dissatisfaction. Daniel L. Fapp won an Oscar nomination for his handsome (if overlit) photography; Delbert Mann directed in an awkward and stagy fashion. **1/2 from ****
    8ereinion

    A fine adaptation

    It's a while since I saw this film, but it has remained in my memory ever since. A solid drama with some impressive performances by Anthony Perkins, Burl Ives and Sophia Loren. Story of a classic father vs son conflict, it shows how love can have a destructive power as in the end it shows that effect on its protagonists, Perkins and Loren. Sophia Loren's character is quite impressive, but thats hardly a surprise knowing that it was created by Eugene O'Neill. She succeeds bringing it to life admirably. Anthony Perkins makes one of his best performances, especially in his early career.

    This is a really pleasant experience for fans of good drama and coupled with some great scenery and the appeal of Loren and Perkins in their prime years, this comes off as a cross between "Wuthering Heights" and "Gone with the Wind". A wonderful film.
    4mdm-11

    Beautiful Stars don't save illogical plot

    Anthony Perkins and Sophia Loren are absolutely gorgeous in this ca. 1840 "Western". That alone, however doesn't help a ridiculous story, with countless historically incorrect elements.

    Byrl Ives is convincing as the 70-something tyrannical patriarch, an egomaniac who swears to see his 100th birthday. His wild dancing at a party he gives for his neighbors will make anyone take notice (this guy is SEVETY SIX?). Always mumbling Bible verses, he demands respect, while driving sons and friends away with his self-righteous rantings and emotional cruelties.

    The love affair between Perkins and Loren at first appears absurd, but becomes believable near the end. There is plenty of drama, but not enough to feel good about. Clearly written for the stage, this story was dated even when it was filmed. Perkins whistles "My Bonnie" in the 1840s, although the song wasn't composed until 1882.

    Critics knocking Sophia Lorens "command of the English language" are rather petty. I found her English flawless and completely audible. As a Neapolitan, Loren speaks a distinct dialect that often had to be dubbed into "proper Italian". Her "accent", however, hardly affects how she speaks English. As a first Generation German American, I can appreciate the efforts of those who learn English as a second, or even third or fourth language.

    "Desire Under The Elms" is a drama (or even a tragedy) in the Classic Sense. For my enjoyment is was missing a logical story and an overall "pay off" for the time invested. Fans of the stars won't want to miss it, others, however, tune in at your own risk!
    6RJBurke1942

    Madly in love or just a love in madness?

    I'm partial to any film in which Sophia Loren appears. And, I like the work of Eugene O'Neill, arguably America's finest playwright of the twentieth century.

    So, it's a sad to admit that, although Burl Ives is superb as the irascible old father, and Sophia does her best – given that she'd only been part of the Hollywood scene for about a year – this rendition of the story of mad love is good, but not great.

    The problem, in my opinion, is Tony Perkins: he's just not up to the task of playing opposite Sophia Loren, a more experienced performer (she'd already appeared in over thirty Italian movies before starring in Elms), and a lusty, fiery woman who just exudes sex appeal like it's the only thing to think about. In contrast, Perkins allows his distracted, tortured persona to intrude to the point of annoyance – for me; others might find him adequate to the role, however, as he first attempts to fob off the apparently unwelcome sexual innuendo of Loren, but then succumbs all too easily, I think, to her temptations.

    Most of the story revolves around those three; the other main players, Pernell Roberts and Frank Overton as the two older step-brothers to Perkins, exit to California in the first act (and don't return until the third). Thereafter, the second act – the entrapment of Perkins in Loren's arms and their deepening romance about which the father knows naught – lays the groundwork for the inevitable tragedy to come. As the viewer, I found it interesting to speculate about the outcome as the third act started, especially after experiencing the excruciating suspense of an earlier Act II scene in the barn – a scene through which I actually stopped breathing, as I watched, fascinated...

    But, what a third act it was from Burl Ives, as he danced and pranced around with much of the village folk, to celebrate the birth of his new son, provided by Loren, but fathered by...whom? Without a doubt, something's got to break, I thought.

    As I continued to watch, I kept thinking: I've seen this before. But, this was my first viewing. Then it came to me: a story of two lovers, embroiled in dark, mad love and with mounting intent to murder has been done before – in 1867, Emile Zola wrote a book called Therese Raquin. In 1950, it was an American TV movie, followed in 1953 with a French version with Simone Signoret. I've read Zola's novel, but I can't vouch for the films. I could suggest, also, that The Postman Always Rings Twice (made many times, first in 1946) has a similar story and plot.

    O'Neill's play, however, has an horrific twist – unlike any of the other stories. So, it's worth seeing for that alone. The bonus is watching Sophia Loren as a delectable temptress and Burl Ives as a pathological caricature of all that a good father should not be – a grand piece of acting by Ives, and more murderous than his performances in, say, Cat on a hot tin roof (1958) or The Big Country (1958). What a banner year for that great performer.

    Being a stage play, the film version faithfully adheres to that format: small sets, obvious backdrops, deep shadows, very obvious multiple lighting – all that you'd expect, as if you were in a theater, front row center, and as it should be for all O'Neill's plays.

    Get it out from your video store or library, see it and enjoy; but don't expect too much from Perkins.
    3AlsExGal

    A lethal combination of sordid and sluggish

    Desire Under the Elms is one of those films that is a lethal combination: sordid and sluggish. It's not as though it would have been much better or less offensive if it went at a faster clip, but the funereal pacing only makes you recognize how hopeless it all is. The three leads try (and Burl Ives in particular gets well into the part), but at this point, the tale of a forbidden love affair and its consequences, once a much praised play by Eugene O'Neill, feels more like one of those horribly overheated and vulgar true crime stories that feature on TV as you race to move on to another channel. What can you really say when you can't stand any of the parties in this love (or is it lust) triangle? As Audrey Hepburn might have said in Breakfast at Tiffany's, they are all "superrats". What little there is that is salvageable to some degree is the remarkably crisp black-and-white cinematography and yet another fine musical score by Elmer Bernstein. Otherwise, a complete wash.

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    • Anecdotes
      The original 1924 Broadway production made Walter Huston a Broadway star; he was 40 years old, playing a septuagenarian. He was later in several more Eugene O'Neill plays.
    • Gaffes
      In several outdoor scenes, people cast two (or more) shadows showing that there are two light sources.
    • Citations

      Eben: I don't like pretending that what's mine is his. I've been doing that all my life.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Biography: Sophia Loren: Actress Italian Style (1997)
    • Bandes originales
      My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean
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      Sung by Anthony Perkins (Eben)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 17 septembre 1958 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Desire Under the Elms
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Paramount Studios - 5555 Melrose Avenue, Hollywood, Los Angeles, Californie, États-Unis(Studio)
    • Société de production
      • Don Hartman Productions
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      1 heure 51 minutes
    • Couleur
      • Black and White
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.85 : 1

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