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Les Cheyennes

Titre original : Cheyenne Autumn
  • 1964
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  • 2h 34min
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Les Cheyennes (1964)
Trailer for this classic western
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DrameL'histoireOccidentalÉpopée historiqueWestern classique

Les Cheyenne, fatigués des promesses brisées du gouvernement américain, partent pour leurs terres ancestrales, mais un officier de la cavalerie sympathique à leur cause est envoyé pour les r... Tout lireLes Cheyenne, fatigués des promesses brisées du gouvernement américain, partent pour leurs terres ancestrales, mais un officier de la cavalerie sympathique à leur cause est envoyé pour les ramener dans leur réserve.Les Cheyenne, fatigués des promesses brisées du gouvernement américain, partent pour leurs terres ancestrales, mais un officier de la cavalerie sympathique à leur cause est envoyé pour les ramener dans leur réserve.

  • Réalisation
    • John Ford
  • Scénario
    • Mari Sandoz
    • James R. Webb
    • Howard Fast
  • Casting principal
    • Richard Widmark
    • Carroll Baker
    • Karl Malden
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    • Réalisation
      • John Ford
    • Scénario
      • Mari Sandoz
      • James R. Webb
      • Howard Fast
    • Casting principal
      • Richard Widmark
      • Carroll Baker
      • Karl Malden
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    • 24avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Nommé pour 1 Oscar
      • 1 victoire et 3 nominations au total

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    Richard Widmark
    Richard Widmark
    • Capt. Thomas Archer
    Carroll Baker
    Carroll Baker
    • Deborah Wright
    Karl Malden
    Karl Malden
    • Capt. Wessels
    Sal Mineo
    Sal Mineo
    • Red Shirt
    Dolores Del Río
    Dolores Del Río
    • Spanish Woman
    • (as Dolores Del Rio)
    Ricardo Montalban
    Ricardo Montalban
    • Little Wolf
    Gilbert Roland
    Gilbert Roland
    • Dull Knife
    Arthur Kennedy
    Arthur Kennedy
    • Doc Holliday
    James Stewart
    James Stewart
    • Wyatt Earp
    Edward G. Robinson
    Edward G. Robinson
    • Secretary of the Interior Carl Schurz
    Patrick Wayne
    Patrick Wayne
    • Second Lieut. Scott
    Elizabeth Allen
    Elizabeth Allen
    • Guinevere Plantagenet
    • (as Betty Ellen)
    John Carradine
    John Carradine
    • Jeff Blair
    Victor Jory
    Victor Jory
    • Tall Tree
    Mike Mazurki
    Mike Mazurki
    • Sr. First Sergeant Stanislas Wichowsky
    George O'Brien
    George O'Brien
    • Major Braden
    Sean McClory
    Sean McClory
    • Dr. O'Carberry
    Judson Pratt
    Judson Pratt
    • Mayor Dog Kelly
    • Réalisation
      • John Ford
    • Scénario
      • Mari Sandoz
      • James R. Webb
      • Howard Fast
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    5esteban1747

    Conveniently adapted story of Northern Cheyenne

    This film shows just a bit of the tragedy of Northern Cheyenne. The film or John Ford did not show that they initially fought together with Sioux led by Sitting Bull war in 1876 and were partially massacred by Custer. Later they fought once again and were defeated at McKenzie compelling them to surrender. Two years later, the prisoners Dull Knife, Wild Hog, and Little Wolf were brought down as prisoners to Fort Reno, from where they escaped and were later killed without mercy. Part of the survivors were killed later when they tried to escape from Fort Robinson, Nebraska, and the others finally confined to a reservation in Montana. Probably Ford wanted to show this story softly giving some feeling of justice to Captain Archer (Richard Widmark), but at the end the film became an approximate story of the reality. Cheyenne, either northern or southern were expelled out from their natural areas, they missed bull hunting and their ancestral traditions. Beside this historical considerations, one must admit that Ford had a very good cast for the film with Widmark, Carroll Baker, always efficient Edward G. Robinson, Karl Malden and others. The only thing difficult to understand was the scene with James Stewart (as Wyatt Earp) together with the veterans Arthur Kennedy and John Carradine, which in my opinion was out of the context.

    Some people believe that Westerns are not more of use in Hollywood. I believe that some westerns giving real stories of what happened with the Indians are very much necessary to understand the history of the real American people. Geronimo, Sitting Bull, Dull Knife and others were not criminals, they were only defending the land where they were born and raised. So their lives should be brought fairly to the screen in the coming future.
    6HotToastyRag

    Great beginning, then it drags

    The first half hour of Cheyenne Autumn promises a moving western akin to How the West Was Won. There's a great romance, family tensions, and a large promise broken to the Native Americans. When the white government officials promise to meet the Indian chiefs and discuss the terms of an already broken treaty, everyone in the tribe walks the great distance to the white settlement. They stand for hours in the sun, waiting in vain. It's very sad, but it starts off a compelling drama. Richard Widmark is in love with a Quaker schoolteacher, Carroll Baker, and he writes her an absolutely adorable marriage proposal on the chalkboard of her classroom. Since he loves her, he wants her to leave for safety instead of traveling with the Indians to the new territory.

    The rest of the long movie really disappoints. I tried to forgive the bad casting of Carroll as a Quaker, but she certainly didn't act like an unworldly woman. Karl Malden gave his usual intense, penetrating stare, but little else. Ricardo Montalban and the remarkably well-preserved Gilbert Roland play Native Americans; you'd think that by 1964 Hollywood would stop putting dark makeup on actors. Sal Mineo, also playing an Indian, strutted around with his shirt off to impress a tribal girl - but that made no sense, since Native Americans always ran around bare-chested. Why were there blushes and giggles exchanged? And randomly, there was a chunk of time in the middle of the movie that included Wyatt Earp (played by James Stewart) and Doc Holliday (played by Arthur Kennedy) in a saloon playing poker. They don't add to the story, and there's no acting required. Jimmy throws a few winks among his jokes, and Arthur keeps up. I can't imagine why this comic relief section was included in this drama. Edward G. Robinson also has a small role in the movie. Can't imagine him in a western? He plays a government official, so no cowboy hat for him. Keep an eye out for cutie pie Patrick Wayne, though, which is fun.

    This movie is very long, and at times it does drag. The middle section is uneven, and after a while, you forget how the beginning even started. If you watch it, it won't hurt you, but it's not as good as it seems.
    jandesimpson

    The greatest John Ford Western?

    I rediscovered "Cheyenne Autumn" recently and must confess to finding the temptation to hail it as almost the greatest of the John Ford Westerns irresistable. I say "almost" as I realise that the claim needs a certain amount of caution. When set beside the formal perfection of "The Searchers", "My Darling Clementine" and even "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon", "Cheyenne Autumn" has a few weak moments and certainly some longeurs. And yet it has a monumental sweep that somehow outstrips them all. Ford's final Western is an apologia for the white Americans' treatment of the American Indian and his own depiction of them as the bad guys in so much of his previous work. Here the Cheyenne are the victims of White oppression, forced to live far to the south of their natural homeland and desperate to return. Depleted in number mainly through illness and starvation they set out on the long trek north, beset on all sides by alien landscape conditions and the American cavalry in pursuit. These pathetic remnants of a once noble tribe now consist of little more than a group of women and children - very few of the male warriors are left - accompanied by a white Quaker woman who has befriended them. One American cavalry officer (Richard Widmark in one of his best performances) recognises their dilemma and does all he can to summon official awareness of their plight. In a sense this is one of the finest of all road movies, the protagonists forced to face the long journey home across a seemingly endless wilderness. Only through an inner determination are the remnants of the tribe able to make it. It is also one of cinema's most powerful documentations of man's inhumanity to man, not light years away from "Come and See" and Ford's own "The Prisoner of Shark Island". The film is badly flawed by the intrusion of a semi-comic interlude depicting Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday more intent on card play in Dodge City than in what is happening around them. This only serves to slow the pace of a film that is often prone to encompass peripheral detail to the detriment of moving purposefully forward. But who can quibble when the end result encompasses one magnificent image after another in William Clothier's splendid 'scope photography and the only music score - by Alex North - that ever did real justice to a Ford picture. For once we actually get away from those endless medleys of sentimental hymn and folk melodies with an astringency of style that matches the serious content of the film.
    8pzanardo

    The desperation of an artist, shown by a beautiful film

    I have recently seen again "Cheyenne Autumn", and, perhaps, I finally got it. In my opinion, this film represents the desperation of an artist, the director John Ford. Forget the usual stunning beauty of the cinematography, the accuracy in filming action scenes, the care for poetic details, and all Ford's trade-mark style. We readily see that "Cheyenne Autumn" is completely different from any other western movie, and not only from the remainder of Ford's work.

    Compared with other western movies, the main difference and innovation is that here any killed man is a REAL tragedy, that exhaustion, famine, cold, violence are REAL sufferings for the miserable people on the screen (not just for the Cheyennes, even for the whites). And all that is shown us by Ford ruthlessly, uncompromisingly. The fact that the director stands for the Indians is not as much innovative as it seems. All along his career Ford showed respect and sympathy for them. In the finale, just after an apparent happy ending, we have again violence, again a murder, again a distressed mother: we almost feel the same grief of hers. It is somewhat ironic that in the same year the film was made, 1964, the fashion of Italian western movies invaded the world of cinema, with furious, acrobatic gun-fights and hundreds of shot-dead people, like in a sort of funny game.

    The movie is split into two parts by a comic interlude, the episode placed in Dodge City, which is actually a farce. I think that Ford wanted to pay a homage and bid his personal farewell to the old silent western-movies of the 1920s, when his career started. The funny situations are deliberately over the top: see the sensational, licentious joke, when Wyatt Earp (Jimmy Stewart) realizes that he actually had met the girl in Wichita... In any case, a somewhat gloomy mood permeates even this comic part. The main characters are all aged, grey-haired and seemingly life-weary. And the episode is introduced by a particularly brutal, cruel murder.

    I think that "Cheyenne Autumn" is a beautiful film, with a good story, great visual beauties, and, in particular, an excellent acting by the whole cast. But it is tough for me to face John Ford's desperate vision. After all, what I most like in the movie is to see, once again, Ben Johnson and Harry Carey Jr on horse-back, in their blue uniforms (by the way: why are they uncredited?). They are both aged and bulkier compared with their look in the great Ford's western-epics of their youth. Never mind: they are almost dearer to me for this very reason...
    5SnoopyStyle

    Starts as compelling drama but turns into bad farce and never recovers

    The Cheyenne nation has been gathered on their desert reservation waiting for supplies. The people are starving. Captain Thomas Archer (Richard Widmark) is sympathetic but powerless in the face of government indifference. Deborah Wright (Carroll Baker) is a Quaker trying to help the Cheyenne. Chiefs Little Wolf (Ricardo Montalban) and Dull Knife (Gilbert Roland) lead over 300 Cheyenne from their reservation in the Oklahoma territory to their traditional home in Wyoming. Archer is forced to stop them. The media exaggerate army casualties. Secretary of the Interior Carl Schurz (Edward G. Robinson) resists political pressure to increase the conflict.

    This starts off well with the vast landscape and compelling story of the Cheyenne mistreatment. Director John Ford is able to give dignity to the movie. Even with the mostly Latinos portraying Cheyennes, it isn't that badly done. There is some good action. It's set up for a serious compelling western. It is a somewhat long march. It's meandering and struggles to keep up the pace. Then it takes a bad comedy detour in Dodge City. Other than having James Stewart play Wyatt Earp, there is nothing worthwhile in that section. The tone is all wrong and breaks down the realism of the movie once and for all.

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    • Anecdotes
      John Ford would not allow Sal Mineo to speak any English dialog in the movie due to the actor's Bronx accent.
    • Gaffes
      The language used by the Cheyenne in this movie is not Cheyenne. It is Navajo. Cheyenne is an Algonquian language, whereas Navajo is Athabaskan (Na Dene), and they do not sound even remotely similar. This is explainable, however, by the fact that this film was shot on the Navajo Nation.
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      Secretary of the Interior: Oh, Henry... you and I fought together at Gettysburg. You had never seen a Negro slave. All you ever knew was that they were human beings with the rights of human beings - and it was worth an arm to you.

    • Versions alternatives
      Many television prints run 145 minutes, and omit the scene with James Stewart as Wyatt Earp. The video release is the full 154-minute version.
    • Connexions
      Edited into Film socialisme (2010)
    • Bandes originales
      Oh, Dem Golden Slippers
      (uncredited)

      Written by James Alan Bland

      Played on the banjo during the saloon

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    • Date de sortie
      • 30 octobre 1964 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • El ocaso de los cheyenes
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Monument Valley, Utah, États-Unis
    • Société de production
      • Ford-Smith Productions
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      • 4 200 000 $US (estimé)
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      2 heures 34 minutes
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