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Le trésor du lac d'argent

Titre original : Der Schatz im Silbersee
  • 1962
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  • 1h 45min
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Le trésor du lac d'argent (1962)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueIn their first cinematic adventure, Apache chief Winnetou and mountain man Old Shatterhand pursue a gang of murderous outlaws who will stop at nothing to find the legendary treasure of Silve... Tout lireIn their first cinematic adventure, Apache chief Winnetou and mountain man Old Shatterhand pursue a gang of murderous outlaws who will stop at nothing to find the legendary treasure of Silver Lake.In their first cinematic adventure, Apache chief Winnetou and mountain man Old Shatterhand pursue a gang of murderous outlaws who will stop at nothing to find the legendary treasure of Silver Lake.

  • Réalisation
    • Harald Reinl
  • Scénario
    • Karl May
    • Harald G. Petersson
    • Jesse Vogel
  • Casting principal
    • Pierre Brice
    • Lex Barker
    • Herbert Lom
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,8/10
    3,8 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Harald Reinl
    • Scénario
      • Karl May
      • Harald G. Petersson
      • Jesse Vogel
    • Casting principal
      • Pierre Brice
      • Lex Barker
      • Herbert Lom
    • 18avis d'utilisateurs
    • 15avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 1 victoire au total

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    Pierre Brice
    Pierre Brice
    • Winnetou
    Lex Barker
    Lex Barker
    • Old Shatterhand
    Herbert Lom
    Herbert Lom
    • Cornel Brinkley
    Götz George
    Götz George
    • Fred Engel
    Karin Dor
    Karin Dor
    • Ellen Patterson
    Marianne Hoppe
    Marianne Hoppe
    • Mrs. Butler
    Eddi Arent
    Eddi Arent
    • Lord Castlepool
    Ralf Wolter
    Ralf Wolter
    • Sam Hawkens
    Sima Janicijevic
    • Patterson
    • (as Jan Sid)
    Ilija Ivezic
    • Hilton
    Mirko Boman
    • Gunstick Uncle
    Branko Spoljar
    • Doc Jefferson Hartley
    Milivoj Stojanovic
    • Knox
    Slobodan Dimitrijevic
    • Rollender Donner
    Jozo Kovacevic
    Jozo Kovacevic
    • Grosser Wolf
    Velimir Chytil
    • Woodward
    • (as Velimir Hitil)
    Hans-Walter Clasen
    • Hilton
    • (voix)
    • (non crédité)
    Josef Dahmen
    Josef Dahmen
    • Hartley
    • (voix)
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Harald Reinl
    • Scénario
      • Karl May
      • Harald G. Petersson
      • Jesse Vogel
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    Avis des utilisateurs18

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    9amikus2000

    Enjoy the landscape of the Balcan area and have tension!

    This "natural" looking and tentious Western will give pleasure to nature-bound spectators as well as to Western fans. The first Winnetou western acts after the introduction of Old-Shatterhand (Lex Barker) and Apache-chief Winnetou (Pierre Brice) in the movie "Winnetou 1". Herbert Lom had been got for playing a colonel, restricted by the script. Marianne Hoppe had her first international movie. For the laughers: Eddie Arent (Lord Castlepool) and Ralf Wolter (Trapper Sam Hawkins) can be seen.
    Wizard-8

    The European western in an early form

    I can only hope that the original Karl May Shatterhand/Winnetou stories were a lot more entertaining that this cinematic adaptation! To be sure, the scenery is very nice (particularly near the end at Silver Lake), and the widescreen photography really captures the feeling of the open west. (Unfortunately, the only print circulating on this side of the Atlantic is in pan-and-scan.) The large gun-battle against the ranch fortress isn't bad as well.

    If only the screenplay had been much better than it was! For starters, it has a curiously childish tone for much of its running time, similar to the kiddie westerns made by B movie outfits in Hollywood in the '30s and '40s. It goes on abnormally on (almost 105 minutes long), partly because of a slow pace - see how that stagecoach at the beginning of the movie rides on... and on... and on... and on... and on! Also, the story takes a number of diversions that bring the story to a halt, like when the heroes are captured. Not to mention some really laughable turns in the script, like how the heroes decide to take a women with them into hostile territory to look for the treasure. Still, it's fun seeing Herbert Lom in western garb, and this may be one of the only chances you see the INDIANS instead of the calvary riding to the rescue!
    7Steve_Nyland

    Fabuous Early Period Karl May Schnitzel Western

    First off, I usually avoid commenting on the thoughts of other contributors to the IMDb, but since when does anyone evaluate a Western strictly on the basis of it's historical accuracy? Sounds about as logical as noting that Wile E. Coyote was working with materials purchased out of the ACME catalog that were not available in 1967 when a given cartoon was made. Like, whatever: Cowboys wear six-guns, ride horses, have mountains in the background of their locations, and don't look twice at supporting characters who are wearing baseball caps ... even though baseball had not yet been invented whenever TREASURE OF SILVER LAKE is supposed to be set.

    Back to matters at hand, this was the first of a string of German made "Schnitzel Westerns" based on the books of Karl May, sort of a Teutonic version of Zane Gray who probably never got out to Dodge City either -- proof positive that anyone can write convincing fiction on any subject they choose so long as they are properly inspired & enthusiastic about it. As one other contributor notes this film is actually more progressive than American made productions of the time in it's respectful (if somewhat childish) portrayal of Native American culture. The Germans may not have gotten the war paint right but they were in awe of the Indians and don't just regard them as pop-up targets to be shot at -- though the idea of having the good guys shoot only their horses as a way to show that they were "friends" is questionable & unfortunate due to the wire tripped horse falls used to simulate it. But that's 1962 for you, and to impose modern day standards on the film is to condemn it to obscurity, which is sadly what has happened. It was wrong to trip the horsies in 1962 but even more wrong to condemn the film for being what it is, and it deserves to be seen.

    Now with that said this is one of the most endearingly stupid Westerns I have ever encountered, infectiously likable from beginning to end. Euro Manbeef hero actor Lex Barker plays "Old Shatterhand", Mr. May's version of Daniel Boone and Davey Crockett combined into one character. He wears a buckskin suit, fights Injun style and at the beginning of the film is wearing a beard for the sole purpose of shaving it off to look more "civilized". Popular film villain Herbert Lom is on-hand to play the scheming, scowling, always cheezed-off villain, who wants to find a treasure of Injun gold and keep it all to himself. Villains are always more believable when they keep their motivations close to the wallet.

    We also get the fetching 007 Bond Babe to be Karin Dor as the fresh-faced white woman who gets tied up to various posts no less than three times during the course of the movie and is not once felt-up by any of the bad guys. This was a more noble time in the west before Peckinpah when cowboys did each other the courtesy of fighting fair, washing regularly and wearing color coordinated costumes. There are mass horseback charges, duels to the death, a stockaded settlement to be defended, honor to be upheld, friends to be saved from doom, wise-spoken blue eyed Indian braves and doting womenfolk who dutifully stand by their men through thick & thin.

    The movie has a cast of hundreds, it's Yugoslavian location work is impressively authentic if yet refreshingly unfamiliar, and the good old poetic justice ending for the greedy villains straight out of TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE get the heroes out of having to actually kill anyone. It's sweeping theme music is quite enjoyable, the camera-work arty without being bogged down by distracting flourishes, and only some unnecessary comic relief in the form of a wayward butterfly collector come between the film and a masterpiece status. It is enjoyable if somewhat socially naive, wholesome and visually compelling entertainment that the whole family can enjoy together. A testimony to modern day man's unquenchable desire to play cowboys & Indians, with even the Indians coming off as the good guys. It's stupid for sure, but aside from some wire-tripped tumbling horsies (and I pray that none were hurt), what about this movie isn't there to like?

    7/10
    7ma-cortes

    Colorful Schnitzel/Gibanica Western co-produced between Germany and Yugoslavia

    First entry of a string based on the famous saga about Karl May novel inspired by Fenimore Cooper with the ordinary Pierre Brice as Apache leader and the serious Lex Barker as a German adventurer , being well produced by great producer Horst Wendlandt . This was the first shooting of a novel by author Karl May set in the American West and his earlier movies after his novels were all set in the Near East . Glimmer and exciting Western that contains adventures , action , crossfire and gorgeous Yugoslavian exteriors magnificently photographed and in which take place the emotive meeting between Winnetou (Pierre Brice) and a bearded Old Shatterhand (Lex Barker) , being subsequently replaced by Old Surehand (Stewart Granger) . This is a thrilling and stirring adventure based on Karl May novel with two agreeable characters as Old Shatterhand and Winnetou , being stunningly played by Lex Barker as an expert scout and Pierre Brice as an Apache chief respectively . Old Shatterhand and Winnetou investigate the murder of a man at a stagecoach , being committed by a greedy outlaw named The Colonel (Herbert Lom) supported by his hoodlums . The stagecoach's passenger had a map that describes the treasure of Silver Lake and his son named Fred Engel (Gotz George) sets out in pursuit the murderers . Fred befriends Old Shatterland and Winnetou who along with the usual , the butterfly hunter named Lord Castlepool (Eddi Aren't) and Sam Hawkens (Ralf Wolter) set off in seek for treasure and chase the killers . Meanwhile , Fred saves and falls in love with Ellen Patterson (a gorgeous Karin Dor , director's wife who will follow playing other characters in various episodes) . Later on , there takes place a spectacular assault on a fort, a fighting between Shatterland and an Indian chief and a spectacular climax at Silver Lake.

    This is an acceptable episode about one of the series of popular German made Western , featuring the intimate duo formed by valiant ¨Old Shatterhand¨ who agrees to guide the revolt against outlaws located at Indian territory and immortal ¨Winnetou¨ , both of them will repeat their same notorious roles as dignified as always . There appears Pierre Brice as noble Apache chief , he was hired in 1962 when the German producer Horst Wendlandt searched for an actor who should play the Native American chief Winnetou and got to know Brice at the Berlin Film Festival , as he got the role and portrayed "Winnetou" in ten more movies with his co-star Lex Barker as "Old Shatterhand" . These very successful productions made him a superstar in Germany, winning several awards such as Bambi or the Golden Otto . Although appearing on countless other movies and TV shows, he will always be best remembered as "Winnetou", whom he also played at theater. Highlights of the movie are the spectacular attack at a fort and the final scene in Silver Lake . This enjoyable saga benefits from sensational adventures , shootouts , action , emotion , larger-than-life characters and spectacular scenarios ; set-location was in former Yugoslavia , as Grobnicko Polje, Croatia , Paklenica National Park, Plitvice, Croatia and Hamburg, Germany . The immutable and incombustible Winnetou-Pierre Brice plays , as usual, his excellent and unforgettable role to be continued in a TV series . Lex Barker scored especially high marks , though he played as a serious and intelligent man who joins forces with Winnetou , while Stewart Granger as Old Surehand performs with humor and joy , he's the perfect counterpoint to Winnetou . Enjoyable relationship between Old Shatterhand/Lex Barker and Old Surehand/Stewart Granger along with Winnetou/Pierre Brice is quite match . The highbrow Lex Barker played most part of series : ¨Apache gold (1963)¨ by Harald Reinl , ¨Apaches last Battle(1964)¨ by Hugo Fregonese , ¨Last of renegades(1964)¨ , ¨The desperate trail¨, being succeeded by Stewart Granger : ¨Old Surehand¨ (1965) directed by Alfred Vohrer, ¨Rampage at Apache Wells or ¨Der Olprinz¨ by Harald Philipp . Stewart Granger as Old Surehand took the role in three occasions , he starred a diverse character but the role is pretty similar to Old Shatterland , he plays with mirth and liking manner but in ironic tone , almost parody style , as ¨Among vultures¨ and ¨Winnetou and Surehand¨ . Besides Rod Cameron starred only one : ¨Old Firehand¨ in which chemistry between stuffy Cameron and Brice is inexistent .

    This time the support cast is top-notch such as Götz George (The Deathmaker) , the gorgeous Karin Dor (Topaz) and special mention to excellent villain Herbert Lom (Inspector Clouseau) . The film displays a colorful and rousing cinematography by Kalinke . Catching , sensitive musical score by Martin Bottcher , series' ordinary , and achieved super-retails , being eventually replaced in some episode by Peter Thomas . The "Old Shatterhand-Melodie" was the most successful track in German hit parades in the 1960s ; the theme later also was recorded as vocal track by several singers, including a version by the movie's actor Pierre Brice . The film achieved a successful box office and was the very first movie to receive the "Golden Screen" for having over 3 million visitors within 12 months . The motion picture produced by Rialto Productions (by producer Wendlandt who was subsequently succeeded by Arthur Brauner) was professionally directed Harald Reinl who directed various Karl May episodes and was a German thriller expert called Krimi - Edward Wallace adaptation . Rating : 6'5/10 , acceptable and passable first installment . Worthwhile seeing for marvelous scenarios and breathtaking outdoors from Yugoslavia including breathtaking falls , canyon , rivers , lake and mountains; all of them as spectacular as Almeria- Spain- outdoors where at the same time were shot numerous European Western .
    Poseidon-3

    Occasionally campy, but highly entertaining treat.

    Paving the way for the Italian "Spaghetti Westerns" was this German-made "Kraut Western" that kicked off a whole series of films based on the writings of frontier adventure author Karl May. American audiences will likely have a difficult time fully appreciating this film because of the downright horrendous dubbing. Also, even though this film is inspired by the countless American westerns that preceded it, it has certain elements that may be a turn-off to traditional western enthusiasts. However, to those who approach the film with an open mind and anticipate that the dialogue will sometimes sound unintentionally funny when paired with the faces on screen, the film is more than a little entertaining. Barker plays a legendary drifter called Old Shatterhand. He roams the plains with his best pal Winnetou ("Chief of all Apaches" as the script dictates) played by Brice (and apparently played over and over by Brice in film and even on stage!) This neo-"Lone Ranger and Tonto" duo rights wrongs and helps various settlers with their sizable problems. This time out, they team up to thwart a ruthless band of criminals (led by Lom) who will stop at nothing to retrieve the title goods. If this rather simple plot sounds dull, it is decidedly not! The nearly epic film depicts stunning scenery, a nail-biting assault on a fort, a knock down contest between Barker and a towering Indian chief and a satisfactory climax at Silver Lake. Barker, a gloriously handsome former "Tarzan" has his beautiful mug hidden under a beard at first, but not for too long. He gives a standout performance in a role which won him multitudinous European fans. Brice (a French, blue-eyed actor!) doesn't get to do as much, but still made enough impact to assure a long career as this character. Also in the cast is hunky, stocky, deliriously sexy George. He manages to overcome the ridiculous vocal dubbing and provide a highly energetic and entertaining performance. In fact, all of the actors got a rigorous workout in the making of this film. They clearly did much of their own riding and stunt work. (Some of it is really odd. Watch for the fight scene between George and Lom in which George practically sits on Lom's face and then picks him up by his genitals to throw him! George also throws a dead/injured man down a well....the only source of drinking water for miles and miles! Why?) On hand for decorative purposes (which she fulfills well) is Dor, who would later be a Bond girl and the subject of one of Hitchcock's most famous camera shots in "Topaz". Lom (with a shocking burst of red hair on his usually bald head) is also beset by bad dubbing, but comes across as a serious villain. There are some comic relief characters that are excruciating. A Gabby Hayes-style rip off in a fright wig, a foppish entomologist with a butterfly net and, worst of all, a lanky, coonskin cap-wearing man who insists (to the utter torture of the viewing audience) on speaking everything in rhyme! There are also goofy elements like people hiding behind tiny trees and bushes in plain sight, yet not being seen. Still, the good outweighs the bad here with the colorful characters and exciting situations going a long way to make the film entertaining. The music also tends to be pretty interesting when it isn't intrusive. The scenes at the title lake are truly beautiful, not only due to the gorgeous setting, but also because George finally takes his shirt off for a while. Fans of "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" will find the climax of this film to be a bit of an inspiration for the climax of that film.

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    • Anecdotes
      Heinz Ingo Hilgers, who played Winnetou at the Karl-May-Festival in Bad Segeberg at the time, was considered for the same part as he had experience playing him. But those in charge, in Bad Segeberg at the time, feared to lose Mr. Hilgers so they held the invitation, to the Audition, back. Hilgers received these news many years later and wasn't very pleased.
    • Gaffes
      The mentioned butterfly Papilio polymnestor parinda is from Sri Lanka and not from North America.
    • Versions alternatives
      When the film was submitted to the FSK, they offered the distributor the choice of either a "Not under 12" rating for the uncut version or a "Not under 6" rating if some fight scenes were removed. Distributor Constantin decided to release the uncut version. However, for the re-release in 1964, some scenes were removed and the film was released with a "Not under 6" rating. Unfortunately, these cuts were done to the original negative and the removed parts were destroyed.
    • Connexions
      Featured in Auf den Spuren Winnetous (2004)
    • Bandes originales
      Oh! Susanna
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      Composed by Stephen Foster

      (played by the band in the saloon)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 16 août 1963 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Allemagne de l'Ouest
      • France
      • Yougoslavie
    • Langue
      • Allemand
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Treasure of the Silver Lake
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Plitvice Lakes National Park, Croatie(Silver Lake scenes)
    • Sociétés de production
      • Rialto Film
      • Jadran Film
      • Rialto Film
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      • 2 900 000 DEM (estimé)
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    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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