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Vers la joie

Titre original : Till glädje
  • 1950
  • Tous publics
  • 1h 38min
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Vers la joie (1950)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueTwo violinists playing in the same orchestra fall in love and get married, but they can't get along.Two violinists playing in the same orchestra fall in love and get married, but they can't get along.Two violinists playing in the same orchestra fall in love and get married, but they can't get along.

  • Réalisation
    • Ingmar Bergman
  • Scénario
    • Ingmar Bergman
  • Casting principal
    • Maj-Britt Nilsson
    • Stig Olin
    • Birger Malmsten
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    • Réalisation
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Scénario
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Casting principal
      • Maj-Britt Nilsson
      • Stig Olin
      • Birger Malmsten
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    Maj-Britt Nilsson
    Maj-Britt Nilsson
    • Marta Olsson - Violinist
    Stig Olin
    Stig Olin
    • Stig Eriksson - Martas man
    Birger Malmsten
    Birger Malmsten
    • Marcel - Cellist
    John Ekman
    John Ekman
    • Mikael Bro - Äldre skådespelare
    Margit Carlqvist
    Margit Carlqvist
    • Nelly Bro - Mikaels unga hustru
    Victor Sjöström
    Victor Sjöström
    • Söderby - Orkesterledare i Helsingborgs orkesterförening
    Staffan Axelsson
    • Lasse som treåring
    • (non crédité)
    Ingmar Bergman
    Ingmar Bergman
    • Väntande man på BB (1)
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    Astrid Bodin
    • Gäst på Martas födelsedagsfest (1)
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    Tor Borong
    • Väntande man på BB (2)
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    Ernst Brunman
    Ernst Brunman
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    Allan Ekelund
    Allan Ekelund
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    Eva Fritz-Nilsson
    • Lisa som treåring
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    Agda Helin
    Agda Helin
    • Sjuksköterska (1)
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    Svea Holm
    • Nybliven mor på BB (1)
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    Berit Holmström
    • Lisa - Martas och Stigs flicka
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    Svea Holst
    • Sjuksköterska (2)
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    Maud Hyttenberg
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    • Réalisation
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Scénario
      • Ingmar Bergman
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    armpetd1

    Even in pain, there is joy, if we look for it

    This is my favourite film. It is perceptive, gentle, full of deep human understanding. Inspirational, running the whole gamut of the human condition, leaving one sad, but also feeling and understanding what true joy really is. Sublime.
    7theachilles

    "There must be a meaning. If there isn't you make one up. Otherwise you can't live."

    Stig and Marta are two young musicians playing together in a Swedish orchestra. They meet, they fall in love and they get married. If this synopsis leaves you expecting a romantic film, you'll be disappointed to find out a rough, realistic, yet very sentimental piece of art.

    In this film, Bergman uses a quite interesting storytelling method that works really effectively. Although the way their marriage ends is revealed to us in the opening sequence making the rest of the film a flashback (a technique with which Bergman is already familiar with), when the movie reaches its final scene, one can't help but be extremely moved by the way things end up.

    Once again, the performances are great and it is clear that these actors open up their own private world for all of us to see, and they can do that simply because they feel comfortable with a director like Bergman. They know they are in safe hands. Victor Sjostrom definitely steals the show (and Bergman will work with him again in Wild Strawberries), but it is the face of Maj-Britt Nilsson (Marta) that will remain in your mind for a long time.

    Already in these early films of his, the Swedish master shows his love for close-ups. He likes to diminish the distance between the audience and the actors, especially their faces, sharing the belief that not only their eyes, but also the texture of their skin can reveal to us a whole lot of things about the characters. After all, close ups are one of the great advantages of cinema that have ultimately become one of the most characteristic building blocks of this art form, and Bergman working simultaneously in the theatre, is very much aware of that. Although the extreme close ups are easier to notice and admire, Bergman has also a great arsenal of shots and camera movements that so easily uses in this film. The shots of the orchestra performing either from high above or through the musicians, shows a camera that can move constantly but also in a discreet and, one could say, abstract way. He also proves to be very capable with mise-en-scene, as deep-focus long takes are used in several scenes.

    The use of music is also notable, as you will definitely see for yourselves in the remarkable montage sequence in the ending. Classical music is of course common in the director's filmography, but it follows certain stages that are worth mentioning. In his first period, in which "To Joy" is definitely included, Bergman uses pieces performed by large orchestras, grandiose in a way. And it's certainly no coincidence that in these films, a great number of characters are used for narrative purposes (surely Stig are Marta are in the foreground, but there's also the conductor, Sonderby, the mistress and her old husband, Marcel and a few others). But from early 60's on, begins a period in which Bergman uses music of a smaller scale (especially string quartets) and in these films very few characters are introduced to us and, very often, in an isolated place (e.g. Through a Glass Darkly, Silence, Persona).

    If you watch carefully this film, you will see many signs of what Ingmar Bergman is going to evolve to. His dramatic approach in human relationships and his effort to capture those moments between two heartbeats, between two lovers. But also his realistic point of view, especially when it comes to marriage (as Scenes From a Marriage a good 20 years after will confirm). A very good film.
    9Quinoa1984

    to the joy of Bergman and combining drama and music

    Ingmar Bergman's seventh film, To Joy, is actually a fairly bitter film, more often than not, in looking at the destructiveness of a marriage between two people who somehow got stuck with each other to fall in love. And yet there are some moments that are quite joyful, or at least in the terms that Bergman will allow from time to time, and they help ring this as less a total work of despair than an examination of 'average' people who can't stand not having more. Stig (Stig Olin) and Marta (Maj-Britt Nilsson) meet as they're both musicians in an orchestra conducted by Sönderby (Victor Sjostrom).

    She's the only woman in the orchestra, but it's not exactly that they have love at first sight in the slightest. Their connection grows following a party where Stig gets drunk and makes a depressing grandstanding fool of himself in front of friends, and somehow his downbeat manner is charming to Marta. Soon they grow closer, even fall in love perhaps, though their future marriage is complicated by Marta becoming pregnant. This scene, when she reveals it three months on to Stig, is the first real crack in the relationship. It only cracks more, with the occasional patch-up, and the question stands more or less- as Stig is looking back on the relationship following his wife and one of his child's deaths- is what could have come from all of this?

    Bergman deals with his characters, at this stage in his career, in trying to just find the simple and really not very simple truths of what Stig and Marta are together and separate. For the first half it almost looks like Stig is a bit too two-dimensional, particularly for a Bergman film (and Olin doesn't play him extremely well, even if he does deliver the beats fairly well, perhaps in line with his own character's inadequacies). He can't seem to enjoy anything that he does because he always wants more, to be a supreme soloist, than to have what he already has gotten. Marta, on the other hand, after having several potential men before going with Stig, tries her best to cope with having two kids that she probably wasn't totally thrilled to have in the first place.

    There's a great little scene where Sanderby recounts walking in on Stig and Marta after having some kind of odd tender moment (as well as later on after having a quarrel), without them noticing Sanderby walk in, and the expression still underneath their faces when he formally walks in. In typical Bergman fashion we see the disintegration of a relationship (quite a brutal argument in bed really, more of emotional violence than physical), even if the sort of 'patching-up' period towards the end is a little weaker than what's come before.

    So on the one hand there is this aspect, the drama of two people having a constant push-and-pull tie that binds them through Stig's delusions of grandeur and self-pity and fear manifesting in other forms (notably into the arms of another woman) and Marta's own semi-helplessness, which is very good, if imperfect, as classic Bergman storytelling. On the other hand it's also one of the best examples of classical music being used as incidental music: there's not exact musical score like if we hear music accompanying the characters giving the emotional cues during an argument scene or when Sanderby offers advice or gets irritated at Stig, but rather the music of Sanderby's orchestra (and Sjostrom, I might add, is pitch-perfect in the role of the weathered and brilliant second-banana conductor) fills in the spaces at times of the emotional context.

    Probably the most successful, and joyful, scene is when Stig finds out Marta has the baby, by running out quick during a rehearsal, the music going along as he's on the phone, then continuing as he sits back down, and as Sanderby asks quietly of one musician who asks another to another to Stig what happened, as the music plays on. This, plus the second greatest cinematic interpretation of Beethoven's 9th symphony 4th movement in a climax (the first being Clockwork Orange), make To Joy worth seeing all by itself, if only for Beethoven fans.

    As one of the several films included on the recently released Eclipse DVD series, To Joy will appeal to fans of Bergman's knack at telling of characters in shattered, honest romance, and to those looking for some classical music bliss and have seen The Magic Flute or Autumn Sonata too many times.
    7Xstal

    Strings Picked Apart ...

    When you set up shop and form a marriage, you need to acquire a rather large carriage, to shackle yourselves to, and fill it with you, just make sure you've got plenty of storage. Now your carriage will have many seals, but occasionally these become unpeeled, you'll both try and unpick, then resolutely re-stick, as you turn it into a big wheal. Far too often the damage is done, and the carriage just runs out of fun, so you fill it with distraction, which leads to inaction, the start of the end has begun. This all happened to Stig and to Marta, but they managed to find a big plaster, until one fateful day, something got in the way, with a carriage derailing disaster.

    There are some things you can't foresee but they usually result because of a lack of vision.
    8cstotlar-1

    Not Very Joyful

    The "Joy" part, by the way, refers to Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" from the Ninth Symphony. It pops up twice, once near the beginning and the other time at the end. It's hard to figure out where this film is aiming. The leading man is unpleasant in every way. He is completely self-centered, self-involved and pessimistic. His wife on the other hand is everything good he is not. And yet the film doesn't necessarily follow through on her character. There are some big payoffs though. It's always a joy (pun intended) to see Victor Sjostrom on screen. He would appear later in Bergman's "Wild Strawberries", again as an old man. This time he's an orchestral conductor who gets to know the two young protagonists over the years. They are both musicians. The husband is chasing after fame on stage and the film makes his lack of real talent painfully obvious. The musical excerpts are quite extraordinary. What you see is actually what you hear! Hollywood could pick up on something here - big time. Again, Sjostrom's job as conductor is impeccable. A lot of work went into this. The symmetry is also wonderful with the last images matching the first. And after all, the "Ode to Joy" doesn't arrive until the end of Beethoven's last symphony

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    • Anecdotes
      One of four Ingmar Bergman films never released theatrically in the US, although it did appear in America on videotape in 1984, and on Blu-ray in 2018
    • Connexions
      Featured in Victor Sjöström - ett porträtt av Gösta Werner (1981)
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      SYMPHONY NO 9, OP. 125 ('AN DIE FREUDE')
      Music by Ludwig van Beethoven

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    • How long is To Joy?Alimenté par Alexa

    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 24 avril 1974 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Suède
    • Langue
      • Suédois
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • To Joy
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Arild, Skåne län, Suède
    • Société de production
      • Svensk Filmindustri (SF)
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      • 5 135 $US
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    • Durée
      • 1h 38min(98 min)
    • Couleur
      • Black and White
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      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.37 : 1

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