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Vers la joie

Titre original : Till glädje
  • 1950
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  • 1h 38min
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Vers la joie (1950)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueTwo violinists playing in the same orchestra fall in love and get married, but they can't get along.Two violinists playing in the same orchestra fall in love and get married, but they can't get along.Two violinists playing in the same orchestra fall in love and get married, but they can't get along.

  • Réalisation
    • Ingmar Bergman
  • Scénario
    • Ingmar Bergman
  • Casting principal
    • Maj-Britt Nilsson
    • Stig Olin
    • Birger Malmsten
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    • Réalisation
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Scénario
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Casting principal
      • Maj-Britt Nilsson
      • Stig Olin
      • Birger Malmsten
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    Maj-Britt Nilsson
    Maj-Britt Nilsson
    • Marta Olsson - Violinist
    Stig Olin
    Stig Olin
    • Stig Eriksson - Martas man
    Birger Malmsten
    Birger Malmsten
    • Marcel - Cellist
    John Ekman
    John Ekman
    • Mikael Bro - Äldre skådespelare
    Margit Carlqvist
    Margit Carlqvist
    • Nelly Bro - Mikaels unga hustru
    Victor Sjöström
    Victor Sjöström
    • Söderby - Orkesterledare i Helsingborgs orkesterförening
    Staffan Axelsson
    • Lasse som treåring
    • (non crédité)
    Ingmar Bergman
    Ingmar Bergman
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    Astrid Bodin
    • Gäst på Martas födelsedagsfest (1)
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    Tor Borong
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    Ernst Brunman
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    Allan Ekelund
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    Eva Fritz-Nilsson
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    Agda Helin
    Agda Helin
    • Sjuksköterska (1)
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    Svea Holm
    • Nybliven mor på BB (1)
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    Berit Holmström
    • Lisa - Martas och Stigs flicka
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    Svea Holst
    • Sjuksköterska (2)
    • (non crédité)
    Maud Hyttenberg
    • Expedit i leksaksaffären
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    • Réalisation
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Scénario
      • Ingmar Bergman
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    7gbill-74877

    Otherwise you can't go on living

    This seems to be a deeply personal work for Bergman, and it's interesting that the backdrop to the story is classical music. We get extended sequences of an orchestra practicing or performing, and the music exudes a feeling of being grand, joyful, perfect, and immortal, whereas by contrast the lives of these characters are small, sad, flawed, and fleeting. It's hard to know how much of the story is Bergman flagellating himself for the failure of his second marriage and his inadequacies as a young artist, but regardless, I love the film for its raw honesty, and for showing the husband to be the childish, insecure, and selfish one in this couple's marriage. They both seem to seek authenticity and meaning early on in their relationship, and start off their marriage promising to be honest and kind to one another, but inevitably things deteriorate, the entropy of which is (in various forms) a recurring theme in Bergman's work.

    I loved the shot on the boy at the end, it's powerful, but in the overall scene, I would have preferred an even more somber sequence amidst that soaring music. (It's hard to believe I'm saying I would have preferred something being more somber in a Bergman film, so I hope that's not saying more about me than I'm saying about the film, hehe) Anyway, it was wonderful to see legendary director Victor Sjöström as the cranky orchestra conductor, just as he'd appear later for Bergman in 'Wild Strawberries,' and look for Bergman himself in a cameo in the doctor's office.

    A few quotes: Bergman seemingly through Stig (Stig Eriksson): "I'll tell you the secret of real art. It's created when you're unhappy. I prefer being unhappy. God knows it's the state I usually find myself in."

    And maybe Bergman through Marta (Maj-Britt Nilsson): "There's so much misery, laziness, and indifference, in body and in mind. In the end you don't believe in anything. You think that's just how it is. That's the whole meaning. (Stig: There doesn't have to be a meaning.) Yes there does. If there isn't, you make you one up. Otherwise you can't go on living."

    And lastly this one, Bergman on music in 1960: "I would say that there is no art form that has so much in common with film as music. Both affect our emotions directly, not via the intellect. And film is mainly rhythm; it is inhalation and exhalation in continuous sequence. Ever since childhood, music has been my great source of recreation and stimulation, and I often experience a film or play musically."
    7theachilles

    "There must be a meaning. If there isn't you make one up. Otherwise you can't live."

    Stig and Marta are two young musicians playing together in a Swedish orchestra. They meet, they fall in love and they get married. If this synopsis leaves you expecting a romantic film, you'll be disappointed to find out a rough, realistic, yet very sentimental piece of art.

    In this film, Bergman uses a quite interesting storytelling method that works really effectively. Although the way their marriage ends is revealed to us in the opening sequence making the rest of the film a flashback (a technique with which Bergman is already familiar with), when the movie reaches its final scene, one can't help but be extremely moved by the way things end up.

    Once again, the performances are great and it is clear that these actors open up their own private world for all of us to see, and they can do that simply because they feel comfortable with a director like Bergman. They know they are in safe hands. Victor Sjostrom definitely steals the show (and Bergman will work with him again in Wild Strawberries), but it is the face of Maj-Britt Nilsson (Marta) that will remain in your mind for a long time.

    Already in these early films of his, the Swedish master shows his love for close-ups. He likes to diminish the distance between the audience and the actors, especially their faces, sharing the belief that not only their eyes, but also the texture of their skin can reveal to us a whole lot of things about the characters. After all, close ups are one of the great advantages of cinema that have ultimately become one of the most characteristic building blocks of this art form, and Bergman working simultaneously in the theatre, is very much aware of that. Although the extreme close ups are easier to notice and admire, Bergman has also a great arsenal of shots and camera movements that so easily uses in this film. The shots of the orchestra performing either from high above or through the musicians, shows a camera that can move constantly but also in a discreet and, one could say, abstract way. He also proves to be very capable with mise-en-scene, as deep-focus long takes are used in several scenes.

    The use of music is also notable, as you will definitely see for yourselves in the remarkable montage sequence in the ending. Classical music is of course common in the director's filmography, but it follows certain stages that are worth mentioning. In his first period, in which "To Joy" is definitely included, Bergman uses pieces performed by large orchestras, grandiose in a way. And it's certainly no coincidence that in these films, a great number of characters are used for narrative purposes (surely Stig are Marta are in the foreground, but there's also the conductor, Sonderby, the mistress and her old husband, Marcel and a few others). But from early 60's on, begins a period in which Bergman uses music of a smaller scale (especially string quartets) and in these films very few characters are introduced to us and, very often, in an isolated place (e.g. Through a Glass Darkly, Silence, Persona).

    If you watch carefully this film, you will see many signs of what Ingmar Bergman is going to evolve to. His dramatic approach in human relationships and his effort to capture those moments between two heartbeats, between two lovers. But also his realistic point of view, especially when it comes to marriage (as Scenes From a Marriage a good 20 years after will confirm). A very good film.
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    Not Very Joyful

    The "Joy" part, by the way, refers to Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" from the Ninth Symphony. It pops up twice, once near the beginning and the other time at the end. It's hard to figure out where this film is aiming. The leading man is unpleasant in every way. He is completely self-centered, self-involved and pessimistic. His wife on the other hand is everything good he is not. And yet the film doesn't necessarily follow through on her character. There are some big payoffs though. It's always a joy (pun intended) to see Victor Sjostrom on screen. He would appear later in Bergman's "Wild Strawberries", again as an old man. This time he's an orchestral conductor who gets to know the two young protagonists over the years. They are both musicians. The husband is chasing after fame on stage and the film makes his lack of real talent painfully obvious. The musical excerpts are quite extraordinary. What you see is actually what you hear! Hollywood could pick up on something here - big time. Again, Sjostrom's job as conductor is impeccable. A lot of work went into this. The symmetry is also wonderful with the last images matching the first. And after all, the "Ode to Joy" doesn't arrive until the end of Beethoven's last symphony

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    7steiner-sam

    Engaging reflection of a couple working through early marriage

    Ingmar Bergman's "To Joy" (Till glädje) is one of his earlier films. It opens and ends with a community orchestra and choir playing Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.

    The story features the courtship and marriage of Stig Eriksson and Marta Olsson, who met while playing violin in the orchestra. Victor Sjöström, who stars in "Wild Strawberries" is the conductor of the orchestra. At the beginning of the film we learn that Marta has been killed in an accident at their summer cottage. It's followed by a long flashback about their tempestuous relationship.

    Stig believes himself a skilled player and dreams of a solo career, but his hopes are dashed in one disastrous performance. Stig and Marta have a troubled relationship, but the last several years have seen reconciliation and joy.

    It is said the film is semi-autobiographical about Bergman's first two marriages. I found the film an engaging reflection of a couple working through their first six or seven years of marriage.
    7runamokprods

    Uneven, but still worth-while early Bergman

    Somewhat one-sided and sometimes melodramatic portrait of a doomed marriage, this still has it share of lovely moments, not least of which is the on-screen performance of great classical music by the orchestra that both protagonists are part of.

    While their romance starts sweetly, Stig rapidly turns into a hateful character, his failure to reach stardom as a solo musician translated into taking out his frustrations on his sweet wife, and coldly having an affair to counter his feelings of impotence and self-loathing.

    While an interesting portrait of an artist's own ambition standing in the way of being better at their craft (it's Stig's need for approval and outward success that doesn't allow him to really thrown himself, body and soul into his music – or his marriage), Marta his wife just comes off as too perfect a martyr.

    There are moments where the acting is very strong, and some of the photography is lovely, but the film just feels a bit like the character of Stig – too self-conscious and too sure about who is right and wrong. Still, there are lots of hints of Bergman's genius to come, and it's well worth seeing for those.

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    • Anecdotes
      One of four Ingmar Bergman films never released theatrically in the US, although it did appear in America on videotape in 1984, and on Blu-ray in 2018
    • Connexions
      Featured in Victor Sjöström - ett porträtt av Gösta Werner (1981)
    • Bandes originales
      SYMPHONY NO 9, OP. 125 ('AN DIE FREUDE')
      Music by Ludwig van Beethoven

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 24 avril 1974 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Suède
    • Langue
      • Suédois
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • To Joy
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Arild, Skåne län, Suède
    • Société de production
      • Svensk Filmindustri (SF)
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      • 1h 38min(98 min)
    • Couleur
      • Black and White
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      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.37 : 1

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