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Un industriel et une pianiste qui tombent en amour dans l'Italie d'après-guerre sont déclarés morts lorsqu'ils ratent leur vol de retour, mais la femme du premier ne l'abandonne pas.Un industriel et une pianiste qui tombent en amour dans l'Italie d'après-guerre sont déclarés morts lorsqu'ils ratent leur vol de retour, mais la femme du premier ne l'abandonne pas.Un industriel et une pianiste qui tombent en amour dans l'Italie d'après-guerre sont déclarés morts lorsqu'ils ratent leur vol de retour, mais la femme du premier ne l'abandonne pas.
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- Scénario
- Casting principal
- Récompenses
- 1 victoire et 1 nomination au total
Larry Arnold
- Italian Waiter
- (non crédité)
Lorenzo Belmuda
- Rinaldo
- (non crédité)
Dino Bolognese
- Flower Vendor
- (non crédité)
Nick Borgani
- Italian Workman
- (non crédité)
Enrico Caruso
- Self - Vocalist
- (archives sonores)
- (voix)
- (non crédité)
Iphigenie Castiglioni
- Maid
- (non crédité)
Harry Cheshire
- Jim
- (non crédité)
Avis à la une
Eerily similar in storyline and backdrop to William Wyler's 1936 masterpiece, Dodsworth. It's not so much the script or the direction that doom this film, it's the premise and its execution. Don't get me wrong; I like the film. However, it could have been much better. As other reviewers stated, the actors, their chemistry were excellent. It's the character development that's faulty.
Whereas in Dodsworth the triangle is played out logically, along the lines of solid character development so that the hero ends up in Naples with the other woman; in September Affair (1950), love takes a back seat to 1950's morality, or "family values" which state that if you sin, you must pay.
To represent this on the screen, the screenwriter uses the deus ex machina device of having the wife morph from shrew to martyr, not by showing us, as a film should do, but by telling us, in a letter no less, that she won't agree to a divorce. But when we actually see her, she doesn't seem all that bad a person. She's not like the woman in the letter and she's not the woman Cotten makes her out to be. With Ruth Chatterton (star of Dodsworth), the character development progressed faultlessly. In September Affair, the wife's character arc is unbelievable. Which is she? A shrew or a noble, long-suffering wife? If the latter, the film couldn't end with Joseph Cotten walking away from that sort of woman. He would have lost favor with the audience.
That means forcing credibility to depend on us buying the unbelievable character arc of the wife who somehow morphs from meanie to martyr.
He goes back to his wife and I'll bet the first thing she does is revert to her original persona (you can't escape that easily) — her Ruth Chatterton ways, emasculating Cotten out of spite, and he'll end up with no way back to the woman he loves, who loves him because she's also foolishly played the martyr to the point of NO return.
The film is a cop out. No film should hinge on the changes in a minor character; it should be the leads whose actions set the course. In fact, the ending even goes against common sense:
1) the wife's new persona has accepted the split, so has the son. That he's alive is enough for her.
2) As for Joan, he loves her and Joan loves him. They've taken it to another level — like John Huston and Mary Astor in Dodsworth, a level the wife can't understand. They are clearly superior in their maturity, their lifestyles, their tastes.
Why not let them fade into the Florence sunset together, she with her piano, him with his engineering projects?
Whereas in Dodsworth the triangle is played out logically, along the lines of solid character development so that the hero ends up in Naples with the other woman; in September Affair (1950), love takes a back seat to 1950's morality, or "family values" which state that if you sin, you must pay.
To represent this on the screen, the screenwriter uses the deus ex machina device of having the wife morph from shrew to martyr, not by showing us, as a film should do, but by telling us, in a letter no less, that she won't agree to a divorce. But when we actually see her, she doesn't seem all that bad a person. She's not like the woman in the letter and she's not the woman Cotten makes her out to be. With Ruth Chatterton (star of Dodsworth), the character development progressed faultlessly. In September Affair, the wife's character arc is unbelievable. Which is she? A shrew or a noble, long-suffering wife? If the latter, the film couldn't end with Joseph Cotten walking away from that sort of woman. He would have lost favor with the audience.
That means forcing credibility to depend on us buying the unbelievable character arc of the wife who somehow morphs from meanie to martyr.
He goes back to his wife and I'll bet the first thing she does is revert to her original persona (you can't escape that easily) — her Ruth Chatterton ways, emasculating Cotten out of spite, and he'll end up with no way back to the woman he loves, who loves him because she's also foolishly played the martyr to the point of NO return.
The film is a cop out. No film should hinge on the changes in a minor character; it should be the leads whose actions set the course. In fact, the ending even goes against common sense:
1) the wife's new persona has accepted the split, so has the son. That he's alive is enough for her.
2) As for Joan, he loves her and Joan loves him. They've taken it to another level — like John Huston and Mary Astor in Dodsworth, a level the wife can't understand. They are clearly superior in their maturity, their lifestyles, their tastes.
Why not let them fade into the Florence sunset together, she with her piano, him with his engineering projects?
This is one of my very favourite films. It is about two people who are approaching early middle age having a chance at real unconditional love - and taking that chance. The casting is so wonderful and the setting is just beautiful. Although, it is an American film it has the ambiance of the post war realism of a an Italian film (Never Take No For An Answer also has this realism). The film is romantic and yet it is unsentimental. Both Joseph Cotton and Joan Fontaine are so very convincing as the lovers. On visits to Italy my wife and I have visited most of the films location. When there I just cant stop myself from singing September Song.
10riomar
I've been a Joan fan for a while now, so when I saw the laser disc for this movie I got it right away.
I was definitely not disappointed.
This movie has got a great story that could actually happen in real life.
Joan gives a great performance as usual, of course Joseph is also perfect as the man she falls in love with at the same time saving her life.
A great movie to watch if you like romance and a beautiful setting for a movie Italy.
I was definitely not disappointed.
This movie has got a great story that could actually happen in real life.
Joan gives a great performance as usual, of course Joseph is also perfect as the man she falls in love with at the same time saving her life.
A great movie to watch if you like romance and a beautiful setting for a movie Italy.
All the comments about this film are favorable except for Mr. Neil Doyle's. I wonder what grumpy pill he took when he watched this or maybe he just isn't a romantic guy. Not one person said his review was "helpful."
This film is well-acted, scripted, and an interesting premise. The music is fabulous and the setting great. Like another reviewer said, Joan Fontaine's facial expressions say as much or more than the words she was given to speak. She is one excellent actress and Joseph Cotten is a veteran actor who once again turns in a fabulous performance.
I unconditionally recommend this movie to all classic movie lovers to fans of Joan Fontaine and/or Joseph Cotten and to all romantics everywhere.
This film is well-acted, scripted, and an interesting premise. The music is fabulous and the setting great. Like another reviewer said, Joan Fontaine's facial expressions say as much or more than the words she was given to speak. She is one excellent actress and Joseph Cotten is a veteran actor who once again turns in a fabulous performance.
I unconditionally recommend this movie to all classic movie lovers to fans of Joan Fontaine and/or Joseph Cotten and to all romantics everywhere.
This is my favourite movie of all time.
I often watch this with friends and family who have never seen the movie and I dare not tell the ending. It is very romantic and at the same time a bit sappy as hollywood Romance movies go.
This movie along with An Affair To Remember and Imitation of Life will have most of you in tears. A great 3-pack weekend tear-jerker selection.
September Affair is unique in the sense that even though the plot line seems far fetched...It actually could happen and has probably crossed a few peoples minds at that. This movie is not to be missed.
Do not Rent this one, purchase it and I assure you you will watch this one over, and over again. I give this movie a 10 out of 10.
Enjoy all you lovers.
Peter.
I often watch this with friends and family who have never seen the movie and I dare not tell the ending. It is very romantic and at the same time a bit sappy as hollywood Romance movies go.
This movie along with An Affair To Remember and Imitation of Life will have most of you in tears. A great 3-pack weekend tear-jerker selection.
September Affair is unique in the sense that even though the plot line seems far fetched...It actually could happen and has probably crossed a few peoples minds at that. This movie is not to be missed.
Do not Rent this one, purchase it and I assure you you will watch this one over, and over again. I give this movie a 10 out of 10.
Enjoy all you lovers.
Peter.
Le saviez-vous
- AnecdotesThis was the earliest American film to feature extensive location work in Italy involving the principal actors. Whilst filming, Joseph Cotten was invited to lunch by his old friend Orson Welles, who confided that he had also invited a couple of Italian businessmen whom he wanted to invest in his film version of "Othello". The presence of a film star would, Welles hoped, influence them to put up some money. Also in the restaurant was Sir Winston Churchill, whom Welles hailed most affectionately as he walked past. He later admitted to Cotten that he and Churchill had never previously met, but that he was hoping that this, too, would impress the Italians. His strategies worked; they agreed over lunch to help finance Welles's film, and Cotten and his co-star Joan Fontaine even played uncredited cameos in "Othello" whilst they were still filming "September Affair".
- GaffesRight after David Lawrence Jr says to Marianne 'Manina' Stuart, "We weren't sure that Madame Salvatini would forward it to him.", the street scene out the window behind them skips, revealing a projected film loop starting over again.
- ConnexionsFeatured in Down Came a Blackbird (1995)
- Bandes originalesSeptember Song
from "Knickerbocker Holiday"
Music by Kurt Weill
Lyrics by Maxwell Anderson
Sung by Walter Huston
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- Durée1 heure 44 minutes
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