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Sur le territoire des comanches

Titre original : Comanche Territory
  • 1950
  • Approved
  • 1h 16min
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5,6/10
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Maureen O'Hara and Macdonald Carey in Sur le territoire des comanches (1950)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueWhite settlers plan to defy the agreement between the government and the Comanche in order to mine for silver on Comanche lands, while scout Jim Bowie tries to keep the peace in the territor... Tout lireWhite settlers plan to defy the agreement between the government and the Comanche in order to mine for silver on Comanche lands, while scout Jim Bowie tries to keep the peace in the territory.White settlers plan to defy the agreement between the government and the Comanche in order to mine for silver on Comanche lands, while scout Jim Bowie tries to keep the peace in the territory.

  • Réalisation
    • George Sherman
  • Scénario
    • Lewis Meltzer
    • Oscar Brodney
  • Casting principal
    • Maureen O'Hara
    • Macdonald Carey
    • Will Geer
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,6/10
    882
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • George Sherman
    • Scénario
      • Lewis Meltzer
      • Oscar Brodney
    • Casting principal
      • Maureen O'Hara
      • Macdonald Carey
      • Will Geer
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    Maureen O'Hara
    Maureen O'Hara
    • Katie Howard
    Macdonald Carey
    Macdonald Carey
    • James Bowie
    Will Geer
    Will Geer
    • Dan'l Seeger
    Charles Drake
    Charles Drake
    • Stacey Howard
    Pedro de Cordoba
    Pedro de Cordoba
    • Quisima
    Ian MacDonald
    Ian MacDonald
    • Walsh
    Rick Vallin
    Rick Vallin
    • Pakanah
    Parley Baer
    Parley Baer
    • Boozer, the Bartender
    James Best
    James Best
    • Sam
    Edmund Cobb
    Edmund Cobb
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    Glenn Strange
    Glenn Strange
    • Big Joe
    John Barton
    • Townsman
    • (non crédité)
    Phil Bloom
    Phil Bloom
    • Townsman
    • (non crédité)
    Stanley Blystone
    Stanley Blystone
    • Rancher at Shindig
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    Chet Brandenburg
    Chet Brandenburg
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    Johnny Carpenter
    • Indian
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    John Cason
    John Cason
    • Newcomer at Shindig
    • (non crédité)
    Jess Cavin
    Jess Cavin
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      • George Sherman
    • Scénario
      • Lewis Meltzer
      • Oscar Brodney
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    9weezeralfalfa

    Jim Bowie and Davy Crocket tangle with charming shrewish spitfire over treaty with Comanches

    Before Maureen O'Hara got spanked on film by John Wayne for her shrewish behavior, she got kicked in the behind several times by Macdonald Carey(as newcomer Jim Bowie), while pinned under a table in a saloon fight. This was in retaliation for her general hostile attitude toward him and her refusal to cash his bank draft as president of the bank or as owner of the saloon in the frontier town of Crooked Tongue in Comanche territory, presumably somewhere in Texas in the 1830s. Probably, the town name had the same meaning to the Comanche as 'forked tongue': their impression of most Europeans. Well, Maureen, as character Katie Howard, had a right to be angry with this stranger, 'cause he busted up her show of riding from one end of town to the other without spilling 2 mugs of beer on a tray she was holding. He claimed it was accidental, but it didn't look that way to me or her. Also, he addressed her as 'a lady', which she took offense to(apparently preferring to be thought of more like a man). The give and take between Carey, or sometimes another, and Maureen provides most of the humorous aspects of this colorful Technicolor Western. I say colorful because Maureen is quite colorful in both a physical and personality sense. She even gets to sing a folk song in a saloon setting. In addition, the abundant outdoors scenes were mostly shot in the colorful Oak Canyon region, near Sedona, AZ. In several shots, the postcard Cathedral Rocks are clearly in the background.

    You won't find a character listed in the credits as Davy Crocket, so why do I claim such in my title? One of the main characters is Daniel Seeger, played by Will Geer. In his eastern formal dress and top hat, he doesn't look anything like Fess Parker's later coonskin-capped film Davy Crocket. But he claims to be a long time frontiersman, Indian fighter/trader and sometimes congressman, and sports what looks like a Kentucky rifle. What historical figure who went to Texas and became a friend of Jim Bowie fits this description? Will Geer was quite a diverse character, with a degree in horticulture, a sometimes folk singer and always a willing advocate for radical political reform. In consequence, he would soon be blacklisted as a result of congressional communist witch hunting. But not before acting as Don O'Connor's buddy in the pirate spoof "Double Crossbones".

    You may not be familiar with Carey as a Western leading man. I was not. He rather reminds me of Ray Milland. He may have lacked the larger-than-life physical image of the top Western leading men, but he proved a scrappy adversary of the evil and wrong-headed elements in this story, and his character eventually managed to make a friend out of Maureen's belligerent character, sealed in the parting shot, which you will like.

    Now, what's all this talk about treaties between the US government and the Comanches? Remember, Texas at this time was still part of Mexico and would not become part of the US for another decade. Nonetheless, Sam Houston did arrive in Texas in 1833 to try to arrange a treaty between the US and Comanches. Mexican authorities were not amused and booted him out for a while. All the shenanigans in the film about disappearing and prospective treaty papers are pretty silly, although they form an important part of the plot.

    What's all the fuss about a big silver strike in Comanche territory, that also is the central issue in the plot? I'm not aware of any such historical silver strike. However, it does have a slight historical basis. The real Jim Bowie did lead an expedition to central Texas in search of some diggings by Native Americans and , later, Mexicans, reputed to have yielded silver. But, nothing of consequence resulted. The screenplay story is quite different.

    Overall, I found this quite an enjoyable film, with lots of humor, colorful characters, both hostile and friendly relations with Comanches, and insider, as well as outsider, badman elements. Most of the Comanches looked like real NAs. Probably, Quisima: the chief, is a corruption of the name of the last free Comanche chief: Quanah, historically relevant not for several decades later. The firearms generally had the look of the flintlocks of this period.

    Along with "Against All Flags", and "The Redhead from Wyoming", released a couple years later, Maureen's character in this film allows her to be at her most charming shrewish spitfire self, and thus my favorite incarnations of her. Rather reminds me of my wife. Her spars with favorite leading man John Wayne in "The Quiet Man" and the much later "McClintock" may be much better known, but I prefer these two much shorter Universal films, which are now available as parts of cheap DVD sets of some lesser known films of that era.
    7hitchcockthelegend

    It's fellas like him that give the white man a bad name.

    Comanche Territory is directed by George Sherman and written by Oscar Brodney and Lewis Meltzer. It stars Maureen O'Hara, Macdonald Carey, Will Geer and Charles Drake. Music is by Frank Skinner and cinematography by Maury Gertsman.

    A government treaty set up to protect sacred Comanche land is due to expire, just as silver has been found beneath the mountains on the land. James Bowie (Carey) has been sent to negotiate a new treaty with the Comanche leaders, thus allowing the silver to be mined without upsetting the Indians. But there are underhand plans being drawn up by settlers in the town of Crooked Tongue, a town run by feisty Katie Howard (O'Hara). Can Bowie prevent the pillaging of the sacred Indian land? Something that will inevitably lead to blood being shed…...

    Good solid B Western that gets in and does its job without pretension or pointless filler. Shot in Technicolor and filmed impressively on location in Sedona, Arizona (Big & Little Parks/Red Rock), it's a film that offers an interesting story and a good sprinkling of action. Cast are mostly fine, Geer files in for the Arthur Hunnicut/Walter Brennan type role, O'Hara is spunky and a Technicolor picture (check out that gorgeous black and green frock sequence) and Carey, whilst hardly a convincing or robust Jim Bowie, plays it with restraint and works off of Geer and O'Hara rather well. The action is competently staged by old pro Sherman, who also doesn't let the pace sag, and Gertsman's photography of the landscapes (particularly Red Rock) is the high point of the production.

    Problems? Well Charles Drake as Katie Howard's crooked brother turns him into a pretty tepid villain, while the big saloon punch-up is beset by amateurish punch throwing. There's also the issue of non Native American actors playing Indians, which once in a while in the 50s did throw up the odd good turn, however here isn't one of them. Though in fairness they aren't helped by the script, which doesn't exactly give the Comanche characters some telling dialogue to impact on proceedings. Good to report that Pegasus' DVD release contains a very good print, there's the odd moment of colour fluctuation, but by and large it's a neat transfer. Though you may want to slightly tone down your colour setting since Sherman and Gertsman have gone for the high contrast option for the Technicolor filters! 6.5/10
    6ma-cortes

    Routine Western in which known scout Jim Bowie fights with invaders who are taking Indian land in order to rob their silver

    Western frontiersman , adventurer , and pioneer Jim Bowie (MacDonald Carey) was born in Logan County, Kentucky, in 1796 , here he travels to Comanche country, where the government accomplished a peaceful agreement with the indians (Pedro de Cordoba , Iron Eyes Cody , among others) , then he helps the Comanche people save their land from settlers . There silver has been found on their territory while the white settlers scheme to defy the agreement between the government and the Comanche in order to mine for silver on Comanche land . Later on , he meets Katie (Maureen O'Hara) who along with her brother (Charles Drake) seem to play leading roles in this incroaching on Indian territory . As explorer Bowie and his pal (Will Geer) fight against invaders who are encroaching Indian land and a hidden gang who is supplying guns to the mean colonists . The Wild, Wanton Fury of 1,000 Howling Savages!

    A standard and routine oater set during the Indian Wars with the violent upheaval of brave Comanches as the white settlers living near by planning to attack the dreaded indians , although they know about that an agreement has been broken , then fear and violence spread throughout the land .This one shows a campy and entertaining glimpse in the Wild West in B-style , being based on a story by Lewis Metzer and screenplay by Brodney . Starred by a legendary role : Jim Bowie , who moved to San Antonio, Texas, in 1828 , battled for Texas' independence in 1832 and served as a colonel in the Texas revolutionary army. James Bowie died in 1836 fighting against the Mexican military commanded by General Santa Anna at the notorious battle of the Alamo along with Davy Crockett and Colonel Travis . Furthermore , inventing the Bowie Knife , main motif at the movie , as he teaches use and manufacture it to Indians . The film packs thrills , noisy action , horse pursuits , crossfire , attacks and it is fast-moving and enough entertaining . It's a medium budget film with acceptable actors , technicians , functional production values and pleasing results . Bursting with appealing characters, including decent filmmaking and interpretation . Passable acting by MacDonald Carey as the historical scout Jim Bowie who tries to keep the peace in the territory. Co-stars the gorgeous and attractive Maureen O'Hara . Along the way , she dances and sings some songs . O'Hara managed to spring from this ridiculous camp Oriental Adventure outing to stardom . Maureen played brave females in several Adventure/Pirate movies during the 40s and 50s in Universal Pictures , similar to Yvonne DeCarlo . As DeCarlo had recently been ill and lost a lot of weight, so much that the Universal producers decided to replace her with Maureen O'Hara . Maureen interpreted various Muslim girls in Simbad the Sailor , Flame of Araby and Bagdad . She also performed the daughter of a powerful lord in The Black Swain , a valiant aristocrat in The Spanish Main , a feared pirate woman called Spitfire in Against All Flags and a French countess in Trípoli . Later on , in 1952 she starred At Sword point as Musketeer Athos' daughter , an untamed Australian girl in Kangaroo and after that , the known Lady Godiva . Finally , she played her best films thanks to John Ford . Support cast is pretty well , such as : Will Geer , Charles Drake , Glenn Strange , James Best , Pedro de Cordoba , Iron Eyes Cody , William Fawcett ,and Ian MacDonald . There stands out the colorful and brilliant cinematography by Maury Gertsman . Being shot on location in Sedona, Big Park, Little Park , Red Rock Crossing , Arizona , and Yavapai County, Arizona . As well as a moving and thrilling musical score by Frank Skinner .

    The motion picture was professional though middlingly directed by George Sherman in B-style , though has some flaws and gaps . Sherman made reliable low-budget fare for Columbia between 1945-48, then moved on to do the same at Universal for another eight years , where he directed ¨Tomahawk¨ and ¨Comanche territory¨. Sherman specialized almost exclusively in "B" westerns there , including the "Three Musketeers" series, which featured a young John Wayne. George directed lots of Westerns as ¨The Last of the Fast Guns¨ , ¨The Lone Hand¨, ¨Santa Fe stampede¨ , ¨Red skin¨ , ¨Chief Crazy Horse¨ ¨Calamity Jane¨, ¨Relentless¨ , ¨Treasure of Pancho Villa¨, ¨Comanche Territory¨ , ¨Dawn at Socorro¨, ¨Border River¨ , ¨war arrow¨, ¨The sombrero kid¨, ¨Rock Mountain Rangers¨, ¨Overland stage riders¨ , ¨Frontier horizon¨ , ¨Cowboy from Texas¨ , ¨3 Texas steers ¨ , ¨ Wyoming outlaw¨ , ¨Pals of the saddle¨ , ¨Outlands of Sonora¨ , ¨Santa Fe stampede¨ and many others . He also made occasional forays into action and horror themes, often achieving a sense of style over substance . The only "A"-grade films to his credit were two westerns starring John Wayne: ¨Comancheros¨ (1961) (as producer) and ¨The big Jack¨ (1971) . His last films were realized in Spain as "Find That Girl" , ¨The new Cinderella¨ and ¨Joaquin Murrieta¨. Rating : 5.5/10 . Passable and acceptable . Well worth watching
    7xredgarnetx

    Dumb title, interesting adventure flick

    This little-seen quasi-Western from 1950 stars McDonald Carey as Jim Bowie helping his friends, the Indians, from an army of marauding white men out to steal Indian land for its silver. The action is set well before the Civil War, so it is improper to call this a Western, although on the meager budget this was shot on, there are plenty of classic Western outfits on display throughout. Carey is at his prime here, and makes for a virile and resourceful Bowie. An absolutely stunning and very youthful Maureen O'Hara is his feisty love interest, who initially is all for white folks taking over Indian land. She wears some silly outfits that look like they came from a Roy Rogers flick, but she also gets to wear at least one formal dress that shows off her distinctive assets. She also gets to put on quite a brogue, enough so that you might think you're watching THE QUIET MAN from time to time. All in all, a fun "B" flick of a type now long forgotten.
    searchanddestroy-1

    Good western, not more

    George Sherman was definitely a western maker, though he has not made only this, he had a very prolific filmography. But westerns were a domain where he was very gifted. This one makes no exception, but the plot brings nothing really new, except terrific natural settings. I was lucky enough to see it is a awesome LBX frame and not in a f...pan and f...scan copy. Yes, a good western, full of charm and fifties atmosphere. Dana Andrews rarely played in westerns; we especially remember him in OXBOW INCIDENT. This western was curiously not produced by Universal Studios for which George Sherman made so many of his westerns: BATTLE AT APACHE PASS, COMANCHE TERRITORY, LAST OF THE FAST GUNS...

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      Pioneer James Bowie was born in Logan County, Kentucky, in 1796. He became a Mexican citizen in 1830, shortly after he moved to San Antonio, Texas, in 1828. He fought in the battle for Texas' independence in 1832 and served as a colonel in the Texas revolutionary army. James Bowie died in 1836 at the battle of the Alamo. He is credited with inventing the Bowie Knife.
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      The opening description and firearms set the time period at 1866. Jim Bowie died in the Alamo fight in March of 1836.
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      Katie Howard: All right, mister, draw! I said, draw!

      James Bowie: Sorry, ma'am. Back in Louisiana, when we meet any pretty ladies, we make love to them, we kiss them, spank 'em on occasion... but we never go around shootin' 'em.

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    • Date de sortie
      • 1 mai 1950 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
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    • Lieux de tournage
      • Sedona, Arizona, États-Unis
    • Société de production
      • Universal International Pictures (UI)
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