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La Dynastie des Forsyte

Titre original : That Forsyte Woman
  • 1949
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  • 1h 53min
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La Dynastie des Forsyte (1949)
Love among the Forsytes is strange, full of tradition, melancholy and gold digging in this film treatise on Victorian-age rigidity and vestiges of a flawed society.
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L'amour chez les Forsytes est étrange, plein de tradition, de mélancolie et de recherche d'or dans ce traité cinématographique sur la rigidité de l'âge victorien et les vestiges d'une sociét... Tout lireL'amour chez les Forsytes est étrange, plein de tradition, de mélancolie et de recherche d'or dans ce traité cinématographique sur la rigidité de l'âge victorien et les vestiges d'une société défectueuse.L'amour chez les Forsytes est étrange, plein de tradition, de mélancolie et de recherche d'or dans ce traité cinématographique sur la rigidité de l'âge victorien et les vestiges d'une société défectueuse.

  • Réalisation
    • Compton Bennett
  • Scénario
    • John Galsworthy
    • Jan Lustig
    • Ivan Tors
  • Casting principal
    • Errol Flynn
    • Greer Garson
    • Walter Pidgeon
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,6/10
    1,6 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Compton Bennett
    • Scénario
      • John Galsworthy
      • Jan Lustig
      • Ivan Tors
    • Casting principal
      • Errol Flynn
      • Greer Garson
      • Walter Pidgeon
    • 46avis d'utilisateurs
    • 8avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Nommé pour 1 Oscar
      • 5 victoires et 1 nomination au total

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    Errol Flynn
    Errol Flynn
    • Soames Forsyte
    Greer Garson
    Greer Garson
    • Irene Forsyte
    Walter Pidgeon
    Walter Pidgeon
    • Young Jolyon Forsyte
    Robert Young
    Robert Young
    • Philip Bosinney
    Janet Leigh
    Janet Leigh
    • June Forsyte
    Harry Davenport
    Harry Davenport
    • Old Jolyon Forsyte
    Aubrey Mather
    Aubrey Mather
    • James Forsyte
    Gerald Oliver Smith
    • Wilson
    Lumsden Hare
    Lumsden Hare
    • Roger Forsyte
    Stanley Logan
    • Swithin Forsyte
    Halliwell Hobbes
    Halliwell Hobbes
    • Nicholas Forsyte
    Matt Moore
    Matt Moore
    • Timothy Forsyte
    Florence Auer
    Florence Auer
    • Ann Forsyte Heyman
    Phyllis Morris
    • Julia Forsyte Small
    Marjorie Eaton
    Marjorie Eaton
    • Hester Forsyte
    Evelyn Beresford
    Evelyn Beresford
    • Mrs. Taylor
    Jimmy Aubrey
    Jimmy Aubrey
    • Cabby
    • (non crédité)
    Frank Baker
    Frank Baker
    • Lord Dunstable
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Compton Bennett
    • Scénario
      • John Galsworthy
      • Jan Lustig
      • Ivan Tors
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    7bkoganbing

    A Prisoner Of His Own Legend

    According to the Citadel Film Series book, The Films Of Errol Flynn, MGM and Warner Brothers did a swapping of stars for the services of the other. Errol Flynn went to MGM for a picture in return for Warner Brothers getting the services of William Powell for Life With Father. I think Powell made out far better in the deal than Flynn did with an Oscar nomination for Best Actor for his film.

    Not that Errol Flynn was bad in That Forsyte Woman, in fact his casting as the proper and stuffy Soames Forsyte was quite a revelation. But the movie-going public simply wouldn't buy it. Errol, not the dashing hero with sword in hand and cape over the other shoulder was not accepted. If That Forsyte Woman had been made a decade earlier and for Warner Brothers, Flynn would have been perfect to play Robert Young's role of Philip Bossiney.

    Flynn is married to Greer Garson and is guardian of niece Janet Leigh. Leigh is the daughter of black sheep brother in this proper Victorian family, Walter Pidgeon. Pidgeon years ago ran away with his niece's governess after the family did not permit the recently widowed Pidgeon to marry her. Back in those days proper English families did things like that.

    Anyway the rather staid marriage of Flynn and Garson gets a jolt when opportunistic Robert Young who Leigh has been keeping company with, falls for Garson and she, him. In modern times it would be a no fault divorce, but things aren't done that way in Victorian England.

    If there is a weakness in casting it's that of Robert Young. I'm surprised that MGM did not use someone like Peter Lawford whom they had under contract and was British besides. Greer was British, but the rest of the cast had two Americans in Young and Leigh, a Canadian in Pidgeon and Flynn was Australian. Young was older than Errol Flynn and just doesn't come over as the young opportunistic lover.

    Garson of course is the perfect English lady who usually wan't allowed dalliances by MGM, but she's fine here. Greer wrote the introduction to the Films Of Errol Flynn and she says that she found Flynn to be a perfect gentleman and anxious to prove himself a serious actor.

    He did in many ways in That Forsyte Saga. He was a prisoner of his own legend at this point.
    8simba-18

    Very interesting although hard to believe...

    How could any woman choose another man over Errol Flynn? I don't know either. That's why I didn't buy the premise of this but was impressed with the performances. Errol Flynn is always great to watch and proves here that he can deliver the acting goods and always of course looks distractingly handsome. Greer Garson and Walter Pigeon are a treat to watch together. A previous poster mentioned the fact that Greer Garson having an adulterous affair didn't work because she was just too likable really doesn't apply here because the fact that their marriage is unhappy is established. Robert Young comes off less sympathetic than Flynn's Soames Forsythe, in my opinion. Here he takes advantage of the young and naive June Forsythe and the unhappy marriage of Mrs. Forsythe at the same time. The story is contrived but overall a good flick to watch on a rainy day. I would recommend it.
    cariart

    Flynn Steals MGM 'Forsythe Saga'...

    By the end of the 1940s, the WB had relegated one-time box office king Errol Flynn to 'B' movies, and offered him little studio support. While most of the stars under contract to the studio were still protected from unflattering publicity, Flynn's rape trial and subsequent revelations revealed a public far more tolerant of the star than the studio was, so Flynn was left 'to his own devices', and found himself the constant subject of scandalous headlines, a situation that became so intolerable that he would eventually sue 'Confidential' magazine, the most virulent of the 'scandal sheets'.

    Therefore, when, negotiating a new contract in 1947, Flynn asked to be allowed to do one film a year away from the WB, the studio agreed, happily, more than pleased to let another studio pay the actor's salary and deal with his unsavory reputation. While the result of this new 'freedom' did not produce any Flynn 'classics' (KIM would be the best received of his work away from the WB), it did give him a seat at the table with Gable, Tracy, Hepburn, Garland, Taylor, and MGM's other legendary stars, when the studio celebrated their 'Golden Anniversary', in 1949.

    THAT FORSYTHE WOMAN, Flynn's first film away from the WB, was a heavy-handed, ultimately unsuccessful adaptation of the first of John Galsworthy's trilogy of the rise and fall of a British aristocratic family, a popular series of works that would become the basis of the classic BBC series, 'Upstairs, Downstairs'. Offered his choice of the male 'leads' in the film, Flynn lobbied for, and got, the 'villain' of the story, the coldly ruthless Soames Forsythe, who marries MGM 'queen' Greer Garson, and proceeds to make her life a living hell. It was a major departure for Flynn, who had watched his roles at the WB deteriorate into a collection of jaded roués with a 'taste' for married women. While he acknowledged that he wasn't the easiest person to work with, he wanted to demonstrate, once and for all, that he was an actor capable of far more than leaping horses over cannons and swinging a sword. With Soames, Flynn proved he 'could deliver', even as a character you would be hard-pressed to feel sympathetic about.

    As the men Garson would find comfort with, Robert Young (who had his own 'typecasting' problems, again playing a near juvenile when, in fact, he was older than Flynn!), and Walter Pidgeon (also playing a role younger than his actual age, but, as usual, winning Garson's heart), had to contend with poorly written, nearly cardboard roles (that Pidgeon 'comes off' so well is a testament to his often-overlooked acting talent...he was FAR more than just 'Garson's Leading Man').

    Greer Garson, long 'typed' as the most aristocratic of MGM leading ladies, had to deliver some truly 'ripe' dialog, and her manipulation by 'class conscious' Soames seemed unrealistic and out of character, but she managed to survive the stodgy production with her reputation unblemished.

    Filming was smooth and untroubled, and Garson was impressed by Flynn's professionalism (he was on his best behavior, for a change). He did, however, pull one memorable practical joke; in a very dramatic scene, as she packed to leave Soames, she opened a wooden wardrobe to discover Flynn, standing inside, naked, grinning from ear to ear! One NEVER pulled a stunt like that on a Major Star (Bette Davis would have had a tantrum), but Garson simply burst out laughing, appreciating Flynn's irreverence.

    THAT FORSYTHE WOMAN would be one of Errol Flynn's favorite movies, even if it didn't turn his career around.
    7Lutzqueen

    Interesting Flynn performance,so-so production

    This film was cited as one of the ones that Errol Flynn felt he gave a good performance in, and that assessment is certainly true. He completely played against type in this role as an emotionally restricted man of property and did a fine job. The problem is not in his playing but in the heavily edited screenplay and miscasting. Robert Young is laughable as the "young" architect and Greer Garson too genteel by half for the role of the scheming adulteress Irene who freezes Soames out-Eleanor Parker would have been ideal for this role,but one gets the feeling MGM couldn't allow Garson to be the adventuress the role demanded because of her image. Also,the film's lack of the pivotal rape scene that ends the marriage in the novel undermines the reason why Irene detests Soames so much. Flynn portrays Soames well enough that he could have followed through in such a scene in good form. He did a great job with this character's motivations and was still quite handsome. An underrated performance in a so-so adaptation of a classic novel.
    6Harold_Robbins

    Galsworthy Gets the Glossy MGM Treatment

    I'm not surprised that many viewers find this film frustrating, particularly those unfamiliar with the novels or the later TV adaptations - coming to this film with such knowledge definitely helps one be more charitable towards it.

    THAT FORSYTE WOMAN is one of MGM's "prestige" literary productions, tackling the first novel of one of Britain's most beloved series of novels by one of its most beloved authors, John Galsworthy. It's another well-executed, professional MGM effort. Yet it's another strange choice for MGM (as was THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GRAY earlier in the decade), since in this case the story's main plot is an adulterous affair,casting its two leading players (Flynn and Garson) very much 'against type' - one can't blame Flynn for being willing, but I'd like to know just exactly which MGM executive thought to cast Greer Garson as the adulteress! The lady was simply too likable!

    These are complex characters, and it actually took Galsworthy 6 novels to reveal them fully to the reader. Neither Soames nor Irene (the Garson role) are particularly likable in the first novel - both seem selfish and willful, but the reader ultimately comes to understand both of them better (although Galsworthy never really does give a satisfactory reason for Irene's loathing of Soames).

    MGM originally produced the film under the title THE FORSYTE SAGA (I have a copy of the movie tie-in edition of the novel published by Scribners in 1949)) but, since the film was merely a slice of the Saga anyway, they changed the title to the more catchy THAT FORSYTE WOMAN emphasizing Irene's 'fast' nature. It remained THE FORSYTE SAGA in the UK.

    One has to admire MGM's ambitious attempt, but let's face it, they'd really bitten off more than they could chew: THE FORSYTE SAGA was too big, too rich, and too multi-layered for one film. Rather, it was a work destined for success in another medium which was still in its infancy - television, in a format to which its breadth, length and varied cast of characters would be perfectly suited - the "mini-series", for which it would provide the pioneer effort with spectacular success in the late 1960s.

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    • Anecdotes
      Originally Pidgeon was cast as Soames and Flynn as young Jolyon, but the actors felt they wanted to go against type and agreed to switch roles.
    • Gaffes
      In an era of corset-wearing ladies, there is a scene where Irene confronts Soames in his office about going on vacation. Greer Garson is dressed in a Victorian nightgown and robe, but in various scenes of her seated, her bra straps are visible.
    • Citations

      Irene Forsyte: [Seeing Soames for the first time in years in a Parisian gallery] Five years! It's quite a long time! How is London?

      Soames Forsyte: [Sadly] Just as gray as ever. Perhaps a little grayer... now.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Some of the Best: Twenty-Five Years of Motion Picture Leadership (1949)
    • Bandes originales
      The Lancer's Quadrilles: La Dorset
      Composed by Spagnoletti

      [the first dance at June's ball]

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    • Date de sortie
      • 20 juin 1950 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
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      • La dinastía de los Forsyte
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios - 10202 W. Washington Blvd., Culver City, Californie, États-Unis
    • Société de production
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
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      • 1h 53min(113 min)
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