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La Femme sur la plage

Titre original : The Woman on the Beach
  • 1947
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  • 1h 11min
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Joan Bennett, Charles Bickford, and Robert Ryan in La Femme sur la plage (1947)
CriminalitéDrameRomanceFilm noir

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  • Réalisation
    • Jean Renoir
  • Scénario
    • Frank Davis
    • Jean Renoir
    • J.R. Michael Hogan
  • Casting principal
    • Joan Bennett
    • Robert Ryan
    • Charles Bickford
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,4/10
    2,8 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Jean Renoir
    • Scénario
      • Frank Davis
      • Jean Renoir
      • J.R. Michael Hogan
    • Casting principal
      • Joan Bennett
      • Robert Ryan
      • Charles Bickford
    • 56avis d'utilisateurs
    • 30avis des critiques
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    Rôles principaux26

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    Joan Bennett
    Joan Bennett
    • Peggy
    Robert Ryan
    Robert Ryan
    • Scott
    Charles Bickford
    Charles Bickford
    • Tod
    Nan Leslie
    Nan Leslie
    • Eve
    Walter Sande
    Walter Sande
    • Otto Wernecke
    Irene Ryan
    Irene Ryan
    • Mrs. Wernecke
    Glen Vernon
    Glen Vernon
    • Kirk
    • (as Glenn Vernon)
    Frank Darien
    Frank Darien
    • Lars
    Jay Norris
    • Jimmy
    Robert Andersen
    Robert Andersen
    • Coast Guardsman
    • (non crédité)
    Carl Armstrong
    • Lenny
    • (non crédité)
    Bonnie Blair
    • Girl at Party
    • (non crédité)
    Hugh Chapman
    • Young Fisherman
    • (non crédité)
    Kay Christopher
    Kay Christopher
    • Girl at Party
    • (non crédité)
    Maria Dodd
    • Nurse Jennings
    • (non crédité)
    Carol Donell
    • Girl at Party
    • (non crédité)
    John Elliott
    John Elliott
    • Old Workman
    • (non crédité)
    Carl Faulkner
    • Old Fisherman
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Jean Renoir
    • Scénario
      • Frank Davis
      • Jean Renoir
      • J.R. Michael Hogan
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    dougdoepke

    A Muddle

    A Coast Guard officer gets involved with a strange woman and her blind husband.

    Small wonder Renoir went back to France after this Hollywood misfire. I don't know what the backstory is but the movie's a mess, great director or no. The problem pretty much begins and ends with a screenplay that makes next to no sense. Start with motivation-- is Peggy (Bennett) a loving wife who simply strays, or maybe she's just a nympho addicted to sex, or even a masochist who likes pain; or maybe even a woman deeply in love with Tod (Bickford). Unfortunately, there're reasons for any and all of these, thanks to the meandering script.

    Then again, considering how changeable human emotions can be, maybe the options are not as mutually exclusive as first appears; maybe Peggy is just really mixed up. Still, it would take a far better script to effectively work out that particular pathology whatever it is. Here, options are simply dumped together into an incoherent jumble. Unfortunately, Tod's character is similarly mangled-- try figuring out, for example, how Tod and Scott (Ryan) really feel about each other. But there's no need to repeat the points other critics have enumerated.

    Then there's the staging. In particular, consider the following-- a half-blind(?) Tod tumbles from a 100-foot rocky cliff with only minor head scratches; in a rocking little boat, Tod and Scott stand stock still as the seas rage beside them; at the same time, the two enemies survive after hours of clinging to the roiling wreckage. To me, all of these staging fiascos could be made more credible with better planning.

    Fortunately for the movie and us, there are arresting visuals to focus on— the opening nightmare is a stunner, along with the wrecked ship on the beach. Renoir also creates an intense fantasy-like atmosphere with the foggy beach and the ship's grotesque skeleton. Then too, Ryan and Bickford make convincing hard-nosed adversaries. But these upsides are unfortunately not enough to salvage the overall result.

    Considering Renoir's previous successes, especially with the lyrically impressive The Southerner (1945), I'm guessing the studio had a dead hand in (mis)shaping the final cut. But, I guess it's also possible that the director-writer was trying to bring some European sophistication to a moody love story that just doesn't work. But whatever the ultimate reason, the movie remains a disappointing muddle.
    7tonyglad

    Why can't I forget this? Renoir, let me go!

    Although the screenplay is pretty dreadful, though based on an interesting idea, and the dialogue mostly either flat or silly, this film still shows Renoir's mastery, particularly in the purely visual field. It still stays with me in flashes, from nearly a lifetime ago. In addition to the director, that fine actor Robert Ryan, with almost nothing to work with, creates a strong impression. Definitely worth seeing with a fair amount of tolerance.
    6masonfisk

    AN EMBITTERED CLASSIC NOIR...!

    A film noir from 1947 starring Robert Ryan, Joan Bennett & Charles Bickford. A coast guard officer is tormented, often taking long horse rides on a beach near his command station to whittle away his dire thoughts but one day he comes across a woman whiling her day away in front of a beached ship. It turns out she is the wife of an esteemed artist (who's now blind) who is stuck in a loveless, abusive marriage which intrigues the military man (even though he is promised to another). He believes the artist's impairment is a front which he tries to use to his advantage to take the unhappy woman away from him. A misguided desire has him at the point where he calls off his marriage & to make plans to take the hated husband on an ill fated boat ride during a storm where he hopes to make his fateful move. The last American film by Jean Renoir (The Rules of the Game/The Southerner) was hampered by a poor test audience & months of reshoots which by the looks of the final product feels about right since it essentially feels like a compromised classic but still deserves some attention just by the justified notoriety of the filmmaker.
    7blanche-2

    uneven Renoir noir

    Joan Bennett is "The Woman on the Beach" in this off-center 1947 film also starring Robert Ryan and Charles Bickford. Directed by Jean Renoir, it apparently was badly edited by RKO; thus, it sometimes felt to this viewer as if large sections were omitted.

    Robert Ryan plays Scott, a Coast Guard officer with post-traumatic stress from the war. Psychologically, he's a little off balance. I suppose saying "Robert Ryan" and "a little off balance" is saying the same thing, given the roles he played, but there we are. He's set to be married to a lovely woman, Eve, (Nan Leslie), and in fact, urges her to marry him even sooner than planned in an early scene. A few minutes later, he's madly in love with Peggy (Bennett), whom he sees collecting driftwood on the beach near an old wreck. Her husband Tod, it turns out, is a great artist, now blind from a fight with his wife. The two of them have a fairly sick relationship, with Tod apparently tempting Peggy with good-looking young guys to see if she'll cheat on him. At one point during dinner with the couple, Scott passes a lighter across to Peggy and Tod head turns as the flame passes him. When Peggy walks Scott out of the house she says, "No, Scott, you're wrong." So Scott, somewhere in a cut out section, became convinced that Tod can see, tells Peggy, and feels that Tod failed the test. But you have to fill that in because it's not in the movie. It doesn't occur to him, I suppose, that Tod felt the heat of the light. Finally, Scott takes Tod for a walk along the cliffs, determined to find out for once and for all if he can see or not.

    The film holds one's interest because of the direction, atmosphere, and performances, but things seem to happen very quickly. Eve complains to Scott that he didn't stop by the night before - which she considers a sign that they are drifting apart - and he tells her that he shouldn't be married. In the film it seems like that happens within 24 hours from the time he wants to get married immediately. Fickle. One suspects another cut.

    This is a film about becoming free of obsession, and though some found the end ambiguous, it did seem clear to me that there was some resolution. The three leads are excellent - Bennett and Bickford play a couple with a strong history that has led to a love/hate "Virginia Woolf" type of relationship along with infidelity on her part; Ryan, looking quite young here, is handsome, sincere and gullible as a man who, while trying to break free of his demons, walks into a situation that feeds on them rather than resolves them.

    With a more judicious cutting, "The Woman on the Beach" could have been a really fantastic film, with its psychological underpinnings being far ahead of their time. As it is, it's still worth watching, though if I'd been Renoir, I would have been plenty angry at RKO for what was done to this movie.
    7AlsExGal

    Leonard Maltin HATES HATES HATES this movie...

    ... and only gives it 1.5/4. Well Mr. Maltin is like any other critic - a useful tool as to what might be good or bad, but in this case I strongly disagree. It walks on the wild side where most American films did not tread in 1947 unless you were making a full-out noir with people who lived on the underbelly of life.

    But this film has an American coast guard officer suffering from PTSD from his wartime experiences as a protagonist (Robert Ryan as Scott), back before they knew what PTSD was and just called it shell shocked. Scott is engaged to marry machinist Eve (Nan Leslie), but then he runs into Peggy (Joan Bennett), who is collecting fire wood near a beached wrecked vessel while he is riding his horse on the beach one day.

    He goes back to her beach house where she lives with her blinded husband, Tod (Charles Bickford), a great artist before his blindness, which was caused by some rough sex and broken glass??? with Peggy, so Peggy feels responsible and trapped and Tod likes it that way. Exactly HOW Peggy could accidentally do what she did is unexplained but insinuated, and I assume is completely explained in the novel from which the screenplay is adapted.

    The point is, Tod knows Peggy is attracted to Scott, and he seems to enjoy toying with both of them at dinner, yet invites Scott to return to visit them. Peggy and Scott share their unhealthy obsession with past demons, and to Scott this is more attractive than healthy all American Eve. In fact, he fails to show up for their wedding with no explanation, no apology. She has to come to him to get anything close to "Gee whiz I'm sorry".

    On top of Scott's PTSD, he becomes obsessed both with Peggy, who understands him and doesn't try to "fix" him and his belief that Tod is really not blind. You see, Scott knows Peggy will leave Tod if it can be proved Tod can see. Tod does seem to follow light, is adventurous in where he is willing to wander alone, and seems to be looking people in the eye when he could not if blind. Can Tod see, and how far is Scott willing to go to prove he can? Watch and find out.

    Ryan is always good as the troubled complex soul - you'll never see him play Santa Claus in these old films, but at least you can understand his character. As for Charles Bickford? He was always a giant talent who let his bluntness and temper get in the way of his career. Here he uses that bluntness and temper in his performance. This is probably the biggest role he is in this late in his career, and his characterization of the enigmatic painter is terrific.

    I recommend this experimental and odd little film.

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    • Anecdotes
      The last film that Jean Renoir directed in Hollywood, and a very painful experience for him as it was severely compromised.
    • Gaffes
      Peggy says her husband's "optic nerve was cut," which is why he's blind. But, although she refers to the optic nerve in the singular, people have two optic nerves - one for each eye.
    • Citations

      Tod: Peggy, did it ever occur to you that to me you'll always be young and beautiful? No matter how old you grow - I'll always remember you as you were the last day I saw you - young, beautiful, bright, exciting. No one who can see can say that to you. - - Peg, you're so beautiful... so beautiful outside, so rotten inside.

      Peggy: You're no angel.

      Tod: No. I guess we're two of a kind.

    • Crédits fous
      During the opening credits, the waves wash away one set of names before the next set is displayed.
    • Connexions
      Featured in Val Lewton: The Man in the Shadows (2007)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 23 juin 1948 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Woman on the Beach
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Leo Carrillo State Beach - 35000 W. Pacific Coast Highway, Malibu, Californie, États-Unis
    • Société de production
      • RKO Radio Pictures
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    • Durée
      • 1h 11min(71 min)
    • Couleur
      • Black and White
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.37 : 1

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