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The Great Victor Herbert

  • 1939
  • Approved
  • 1h 31min
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5,5/10
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Walter Connolly, Allan Jones, and Mary Martin in The Great Victor Herbert (1939)
BiographyMusicMusicalRomance

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA fictionalized version of famous opera composer Victor Herbert where he witnesses the romance, stardom, parenthood, and troubled experiences of his star singers.A fictionalized version of famous opera composer Victor Herbert where he witnesses the romance, stardom, parenthood, and troubled experiences of his star singers.A fictionalized version of famous opera composer Victor Herbert where he witnesses the romance, stardom, parenthood, and troubled experiences of his star singers.

  • Réalisation
    • Andrew L. Stone
  • Scénario
    • Russel Crouse
    • Robert Lively
    • Andrew L. Stone
  • Casting principal
    • Allan Jones
    • Mary Martin
    • Walter Connolly
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,5/10
    144
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    • Réalisation
      • Andrew L. Stone
    • Scénario
      • Russel Crouse
      • Robert Lively
      • Andrew L. Stone
    • Casting principal
      • Allan Jones
      • Mary Martin
      • Walter Connolly
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    • 4avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    • Nommé pour 2 Oscars
      • 4 victoires et 2 nominations au total

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    Rôles principaux45

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    Allan Jones
    Allan Jones
    • John Ramsey
    Mary Martin
    Mary Martin
    • Louise Hall
    Walter Connolly
    Walter Connolly
    • Victor Herbert
    Lee Bowman
    Lee Bowman
    • Dr. Richard Moore
    Judith Barrett
    Judith Barrett
    • Marie Clark
    Susanna Foster
    Susanna Foster
    • Peggy
    Jerome Cowan
    Jerome Cowan
    • Barney Harris
    John Garrick
    John Garrick
    • Warner Bryant
    Pierre Watkin
    Pierre Watkin
    • Albert Martin
    Richard Tucker
    Richard Tucker
    • Michael Brown
    Hal K. Dawson
    • George Faller
    Emmett Vogan
    Emmett Vogan
    • Forbes
    Mary Currier
    Mary Currier
    • Mrs. Victor Herbert
    James Finlayson
    James Finlayson
    • Lamplighter
    Sandra Lee Richards
    • Peggy - as a Young Girl
    Guy Bellis
    • Audience Member
    • (non crédité)
    Eddie Borden
    Eddie Borden
    • Pop-Eyed Man
    • (non crédité)
    Betty Bryson
    • Ballerina
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Andrew L. Stone
    • Scénario
      • Russel Crouse
      • Robert Lively
      • Andrew L. Stone
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    5661jda

    Nominate the title as a prime example of "Bait and Switch"

    This isn't a story about Victor Herbert - it's a romance between two musical-comedy with Herbert's music and character as strong supporting players. The story is ok, but nothing outstanding - sort of a take on "A Star Is Born": she's a rising star he's big but on his way down. Pride takes the place in this where in STAR it's alcohol. Like I said, pleasant enough and the vocals are very good - my throat hurt at the end of the film from straining to music. Looking at his filmography - doesn't look like Andrew L Stone had much luck with biographies about composers: SONG OF NORWAY and THE GREAT WALTZ (remake). Primary reason to watch for me: one of the few and, actually, the third film role of Mary Martin - that was a treat.
    8itsmits

    Susanna Foster Hits a High Note.

    I cannot argue with other comments that the story line focuses more on the romance between the Mary Martin and Allan Jones characters, much in the manner of "Showboat", than on the life of Victor Herbert. But in the 1930's, would that have been a box office draw? Instead of the Life of VH, perhaps it should have been the Music of VH. There is an abundance of this.

    For me, the thrill of the movie came near the end of the movie when Susanna Foster sings "Land of Romance". It has been over a decade since I caught this movie for a second time at a local 'old movies' theater. At first the audience was stunned; then it burst into spontaneous applause. I remember the shivers running up and down my spine. My trivia memory recalled the information provided to an inquiring public by a local journalist when the movie first came out back in the late 1930's. 'That note hit by Miss Foster was a far F above high C.'

    She may not have had four octaves a la Yma Sumac but the then teen-ager certainly had a range!
    7bkoganbing

    The Real Vic??

    Now I like Victor Herbert. And I like Mary Martin and Allan Jones. But it would have been nice to see a real biography of Victor Herbert. Walter Connolly as Herbert does have a decent resemblance to him in his latter years

    Jones and Martin sing beautifully though. The Herbert music is just there to adorn the plot line concerning these two musical performers. Jones's John Ramsay is a frail character, very similar to Gaylord Ravenal in Showboat who Jones also played.

    As for Mary Martin, it's a mystery why she never had a good Hollywood career. She did films with Bing Crosby and Dick Powell as well as this one. She performed well, but movie audiences didn't take to her. The best musical moment in the film is Jones and Martin in a duet of Thine Alone. The recordings I have of the song are individual and it was written as a duet. There's also a pleasant scene with Jones and Martin riding bicycles swapping Herbert songs as they ride.

    The real Victor Herbert with his womanizing and his Irish patriot background and his musical training in Germany where he developed a love for all things German would have been a fascinating study. He was also a cello virtuoso before he turned full time to composing. I have to take strong exception to the reviewer who said Cuddles Sakall would have been a good Victor Herbert. Sakall as Irish, HELLO.

    Nice movie, but the real Vic would have been so much better.
    JTBWRITER

    A TIMELESS STORY OF GREAT MUSIC-NOT A BIO BUT BETTER!

    This movie is one of my mothers favorites, a story not of the life of Victor Herbert but a fictionalized account of his impact on those who sang his works. Mary Martin shines and gives only a glimpse of the beautiful voice soon to be featured on Broadway. For those who doubt her range and depth of talent, her early work on Decca Records confirms the talent she possessed-how unfortunate for Hollywood that "The Great Victor Herbert" is one of the few times she was showcased in her proper element! The love story is a tearjerker with the old time happy ending engendered by the radiant Susanna Foster. I hope someday this movie is out on video so that future generations can see the talent only tapped in this movie!
    5richard-1787

    A charming but misleadingly titled film

    Hollywood did a string of musical biopics of Great American song composers during and just after World War II. The most famous, of course, is Warner Brothers' *Yankee Doodle Dandy* (1942), in which James Cagney dances away with a well-deserved Best Actor Oscar. There is also the same studio's underappreciated *Rhapsody in Blue* (1945), which does a decent job of presenting Gershwin as the very voice of the American spirit. There was also MGM's *Till the Clouds Roll By* (1946), which tries to cram as many Jerome Kern numbers into two hours as possible. I also seem to recall that there was a fluff piece about Sigmund Romberg, but I can't track it down.

    Despite its very misleading title, *The Great Victor Herbert* bears no resemblance to any of these. It is not, and does not pretend to be, a biography, fictional or otherwise, of the great American operetta composer.

    Rather, it is yet another variation on the story best known from *A Star is Born* of a husband-wife theater team in which the husband is initially the big star, but later is supplanted by his up and coming wife. Trouble ensues.

    Allan Jones had already played this part just three years before in the 1936 *Show Boat*, and it's rather strange to see him put in the same situations just three years later.

    The problems with this movie, for me, are more than the deceptive title, however. There is, still, a lot of Herbert music in this movie. That would be fine if it concentrated on his memorable music, of which there was much. But it doesn't. We hear one piece after the next, some in fairly lavish production numbers, always leaving me with the same reaction: why bother? Rather than focusing on some of Herbert's big successes, like *Naughty Marietta*, *The Red Mill*, *Babes in Toyland*, and *Mlle Modiste*, it dredges up one forgettable number after the next from his other, long-forgotten shows. That makes this 90 minute movie seem longer than it is.

    I enjoyed seeing Mary Martin on the screen. She's very young here, and Herbert's music is not the sort of thing with which she would have success after success on Broadway in the years to follow - it's a long way from Nelly Forbush or Maria in Sound of Music - but she's still enjoyable to watch.

    Allan Jones has been better in other pictures.

    Susanna Foster sounds like a poor man's Meliza Korjus. She has a thin voice with freakish high notes that are best not heard. Unfortunately, we get to hear the highest of them not once but twice, at the beginning and then the end of the picture.

    In short, unless you want to see Mary Martin in one of her too rare silver screen appearances, there really is nothing to recommend this movie.

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    • Anecdotes
      Walter Connolly's last film.
    • Connexions
      Referenced in Le choix de...: The Final Tribute (1955)
    • Bandes originales
      Someday
      (uncredited)

      Music by Victor Herbert

      Lyrics by William LeBaron

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 29 décembre 1939 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Operettkungen
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Providencia Ranch, Hollywood Hills, Los Angeles, Californie, États-Unis(Photograph)
    • Société de production
      • Paramount Pictures
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    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 301 700 $US
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    • Durée
      1 heure 31 minutes
    • Couleur
      • Black and White
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.37 : 1

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