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L'éternel mirage

Titre original : Skepp till India land
  • 1947
  • Not Rated
  • 1h 38min
NOTE IMDb
6,4/10
2,4 k
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Gertrud Fridh, Anna Lindahl, Holger Löwenadler, and Birger Malmsten in L'éternel mirage (1947)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA sailor returns to his hometown after 7 years and remembers the dark and the light moments of his past.A sailor returns to his hometown after 7 years and remembers the dark and the light moments of his past.A sailor returns to his hometown after 7 years and remembers the dark and the light moments of his past.

  • Réalisation
    • Ingmar Bergman
  • Scénario
    • Ingmar Bergman
    • Martin Söderhjelm
  • Casting principal
    • Holger Löwenadler
    • Anna Lindahl
    • Birger Malmsten
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,4/10
    2,4 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Scénario
      • Ingmar Bergman
      • Martin Söderhjelm
    • Casting principal
      • Holger Löwenadler
      • Anna Lindahl
      • Birger Malmsten
    • 16avis d'utilisateurs
    • 18avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    • Récompenses
      • 1 nomination au total

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    Rôles principaux24

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    Holger Löwenadler
    Holger Löwenadler
    • Alexander Blom
    Anna Lindahl
    Anna Lindahl
    • Alice Blom - Alexanders hustru
    Birger Malmsten
    Birger Malmsten
    • Johannes Blom - Alexander och Alice son
    Gertrud Fridh
    Gertrud Fridh
    • Sally - Varietésångerska
    Naemi Briese
    Naemi Briese
    • Selma
    Hjördis Petterson
    Hjördis Petterson
    • Sofi
    • (as Hjördis Pettersson)
    Lasse Krantz
    Lasse Krantz
    • Hans - Besättningsman
    Jan Molander
    Jan Molander
    • Bertil - Besättningsman
    Erik Hell
    Erik Hell
    • Pekka - Besättningsman
    Åke Fridell
    Åke Fridell
    • Varietédirektören
    Douglas Håge
    Douglas Håge
    • Tullmannen
    • (scènes coupées)
    Ami Aaröe
    Ami Aaröe
    • Ung flicka på stranden
    • (non crédité)
    Torgny Anderberg
    Torgny Anderberg
    • En man
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    Ingmar Bergman
    Ingmar Bergman
    • Man i basker vid kasperteatern på tivolit
    • (non crédité)
    Rolf Bergström
    • Alexanders kumpan (1)
    • (non crédité)
    John W. Björling
    • En äldre man på varietéscenen
    • (non crédité)
    Ingrid Borthen
    Ingrid Borthen
    • Flicka på gatan
    • (non crédité)
    Gustaf Hiort af Ornäs
    • Alexanders kumpan (2)
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Ingmar Bergman
    • Scénario
      • Ingmar Bergman
      • Martin Söderhjelm
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    6frankde-jong

    Training on the job for Bergman

    Two men on a ship are fighting for the affections of a woman. In 1962 Roman Polanski had a breakthrough with this in the film "Knife in the water". In 1947 however Bergman was still learning and the quality of "A ship bound for India" in no way justified a breakthrough.

    In "A ship bound for India" the two men are father and son, and by Bergman this signals an autobiographical element, the more so when the father is very authoritarian. The son resists the authority of his father and the woman "only" is a catalyst of this resistance. "Only" is however put a little too mildly because the woman gives the boy the needed self confidence to change his silent resistance into explicit resistance.

    The film has some weak points. In the first place the father is too much the bad guy and the son too mucht the good guy. Secondly the father is authoritarian in a fysical way, in other words he is violent. I think the film would have been more interesting had the father been authoritarian in a spiritual way and the fight of the son was not to become as strong as his father but to develop his own personality.

    In one scene Bergman shows his potential as the great director he would become. The diving scene, working magnificently with shadwos, is pure expressionism.
    7TheLittleSongbird

    On the waterfront

    Was only introduced to Ingmar Bergman seven years ago and very quickly he landed on my list of best and most influential directors. He did have occasional disappointments here and there (a vast majority of directors did/do), such as 'All Those Women' and 'The Serpent's Egg'. But he was great once he found his style, and quite a lot of his films are masterpieces such as 'The Seventh Seal', 'Fanny and Alexander', 'Wild Strawberries', 'Cries and Whispers', 'Persona' and 'The Virgin Spring'.

    His third film 'A Ship to India' as director, following on from 'Crisis' and 'It Rains on Our Love', is a long way from being one of the master's best. Then again this was very early on in his career and when he was still finding his style properly. For such early Bergman however, 'A Ship to India' is a very interesting film and one can see signs of his distinctive style and themes already, it is also a not bad at all one. Actually thought it was quite well done on the whole.

    As always for a Bergman film, there is some very nice photography (though this aspect has certainly been done better and more inspired in later Bergman films). Likewise with good use of very atmospheric locations. Bergman's direction became more refined and instinctive later on, then again it is early days, but one can definitely see a lot of promise here. The script s thoughtful, having the tension and emotion necessary.

    The story is unmistakable Bergman in terms of themes and the tensions between the characters are believable. Emotionally it didn't feel cold. The acting is very strong from a chillingly cruel Holger Lowenadler and Birger Malmsten portrays a character worth relating to.

    For all those good things, the uneven character writing also works against 'A Ship to India'. It is agreed that motivations are hard to buy, due to them being introduced suddenly without much warning and contradicting anything sad before. There were things crying out for explanation left hanging in the air.

    On the most part the photography is fine but parts are a bit on the drab side. Some of the intensity wavers later on, with a few dreary moments.

    Summarising, interesting and well done but Bergman is not at his best here. 7/10
    7shawndrewett-87767

    Dark and unconscionable

    I'm not a movie expert by any means but I do really enjoy noir movies from the forties and fifties and especially foreign ones. Each week I search the internet to discover a good one I haven't seen. A Ship to India certainly satisfies the noir in me. However the morals of the 3 main characters are pretty shocking for a 1947 movie. Attempted rape, adultery, drunkenness, prostitution, and infidelity on two fronts. Also attempted suicide. If this is what you like you'll enjoy if but you're a Casablanca , Silence of the Sea kind of person like me, this will be too impure. I like to feel satisfied at the end of a movie but with this one infidelity wins.
    7saltsan

    One of Bergman's first films is one of his most interesting

    But it's not one of his best. The characterizations of the film's protagonists are inconsistent from scene to scene and some of them leave a viewer with many unanswered questions (like the mother's motivations.) Beyond that, the cinematography is pretty dowdy, particularly the exterior footage.

    Still, it has elements that Bergman fans will recognize from his more famous films, and it contains sequences of despair and anguish that can haunt a viewer days later. Birger Malmsten, who plays the lead character Johannes and who will be seen in several later Bergman films, is immensely likable and compelling as the hunchback son who finally stands up to his despotic father. While many of the early Bergman films are uninteresting at almost every level ("Port of Call," for instance) this one is well worth a look for the hard core Bergmaniac, if you can find it.
    8clanciai

    Salvaging a wreck from the bottom of the sea, while the real wrecks are ashore

    All the Bergman complexes are already here: the dysfunctional family, the tyrannical father, the struggling sex disturbances, the human decadence, the claustrophobia, the inferiority complex, it's all here bundled up in a rotten ship trying to salvage a wreck, with a few able seamen but a captain that constantly ruins everything, it's all sordid and dreadful, even the dialog is constantly strained, the emotional outbursts keep on rolling, but the whole thing is wonderfully filmed with Bergman's famous and unique sense of imagery. A failure of a captain has a hunchback for a son, whom he keeps as a slave more or less, he wants to become a seaman, but the father keeps him hard at work with dirty things, and so there is a constant conflict brewing up. The captain wants to go away and leave everything, wife and son and crew and ship, to escape with a variety girl, but she falls in love with the son, while the captain is going blind. What a mess! It's the son that ultimately goes away, but comes back after seven years to find the wrecks of his previous life and the girl, whom he imagines has been waiting for him for seven years, as he has been dreaming of her for seven years, but that romantic construction is not quite convincing. The assets of the film are the splendid photography and imagery, and a wonderful score by Erland von Koch.

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    • Anecdotes
      Ingmar Bergman: 17'50" into the film, can be seen in the amusement park, watching the performance of "Kasper Teater", a marionette show.
    • Citations

      Sally: [to Johannes] I know what you're thinking. I know what you want to say. But don't say anything. Don't think anything.

    • Versions alternatives
      American version, under the title "Frustration", runs 78 minutes. While most of the Swedish version is told as an extended flashback, the US cut omits the "present day" prologue and instead offers the story chronologically.
    • Connexions
      Edited into Spisok korabley (2008)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 6 septembre 1950 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Suède
    • Langue
      • Suédois
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • A Ship Bound for India
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Sandrew-ateljéerna, Gärdet, Stockholm, Stockholms län, Suède(Studio)
    • Société de production
      • Sveriges Folkbiografer
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    • Durée
      1 heure 38 minutes
    • Couleur
      • Black and White
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.37 : 1

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