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Titanic

  • 1943
  • TV-PG
  • 1h 25min
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Titanic (1943)
Third Reich's Nazi propaganda epic about a heroic fictional German officer on board of the RMS Titanic. On its maiden voyage in April 1912, the supposedly unsinkable ship hits an iceberg in the Atlantic Ocean and starts to go down.
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueThird Reich's Nazi propaganda epic about a heroic fictional German officer on board of the RMS Titanic. On its maiden voyage in April 1912, the supposedly unsinkable ship hits an iceberg in ... Tout lireThird Reich's Nazi propaganda epic about a heroic fictional German officer on board of the RMS Titanic. On its maiden voyage in April 1912, the supposedly unsinkable ship hits an iceberg in the Atlantic Ocean and starts to go down.Third Reich's Nazi propaganda epic about a heroic fictional German officer on board of the RMS Titanic. On its maiden voyage in April 1912, the supposedly unsinkable ship hits an iceberg in the Atlantic Ocean and starts to go down.

  • Réalisation
    • Herbert Selpin
    • Werner Klingler
  • Scénario
    • Harald Bratt
    • Hansi Köck
    • Herbert Selpin
  • Casting principal
    • Sybille Schmitz
    • Hans Nielsen
    • Kirsten Heiberg
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    • Réalisation
      • Herbert Selpin
      • Werner Klingler
    • Scénario
      • Harald Bratt
      • Hansi Köck
      • Herbert Selpin
    • Casting principal
      • Sybille Schmitz
      • Hans Nielsen
      • Kirsten Heiberg
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    Sybille Schmitz
    Sybille Schmitz
    • Sigrid Olinsky
    Hans Nielsen
    • 1st Officer Petersen
    Kirsten Heiberg
    Kirsten Heiberg
    • Gloria
    Ernst Fritz Fürbringer
    Ernst Fritz Fürbringer
    • Sir Bruce Ismay
    • (as E.F. Fürbringer)
    Karl Schönböck
    Karl Schönböck
    • John Jacob Astor
    Charlotte Thiele
    Charlotte Thiele
    • Lady Astor
    Otto Wernicke
    Otto Wernicke
    • Captain Edward J. Smith
    Franz Schafheitlin
    • Hunderson
    Sepp Rist
    • Jan
    Claude Farell
    Claude Farell
    • Manniküre Hedi
    • (as Monika Burg)
    Claus Holm
    Claus Holm
    • Steuermann
    Jolly Bohnert
    • Marcia
    • (non crédité)
    Hermann Brix
    Hermann Brix
    • Kapellmeister Gruber
    • (non crédité)
    Fritz Böttger
    • Lord Douglas
    • (non crédité)
    Karl Dannemann
    Karl Dannemann
    • 1. Funker Philipps
    • (non crédité)
    Kurt Alexander Duma
    • 2. Ingenieur Hesketh
    • (non crédité)
    Peter Elsholtz
    Peter Elsholtz
    • Landarbeiter Bobby
    • (non crédité)
    Karl Fochler
    • Obersteward
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Herbert Selpin
      • Werner Klingler
    • Scénario
      • Harald Bratt
      • Hansi Köck
      • Herbert Selpin
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    bkoganbing

    Gilding The Propaganda Lily

    Titanic must have been the great cause for discussion at the Propaganda Ministry in 1943. Ostensibly put out to show the kind of materialistic greedy people the Germans were fighting back then, it seems as though Joseph Goebbels felt the wrong message might still go out. The original director, Herbert Spelvin, was arrested mid production by the Gestapo and found hanging in his cell the next day. Of course suicide was the official reason given and ostensibly Goebbels was mighty put out about the scenes of panic shown on film. Yet there are certainly enough of them left in the product I saw.

    What's showed here is nothing new. But that's the difference between a free society and Nazi Germany. The story has been told a whole lot in both British and American productions. What the Nazis did in this film was to create a wholly fictional second officer named Peterson who serves as the voice of conscience in the film. The villain of course is Ismay the head of the British White Star Line who is looking for the stock in White Star to go up if the much ballyhooed Titanic makes a record crossing in its maiden voyage. Peterson as portrayed by Hans Nielsson is as Aryan as they come, while Ismay looks vaguely like those people we're eliminating as played by E.F.Fuhwanger.

    John Jacob Astor is here to represent American capitalism. Such folks as Captain Harry Guggenheim and Mr.&Mrs. Isidor Straus who died in the sinking are eliminated from the story. So is the plucky Denver millionairess Molly Brown.

    For a movie that's supposed to show and criticize the British class distinction, very little time is spent on the huddled masses in steerage who were the bulk of the people killed. James Cameron in the recent Titanic with Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet spent more time with them than this production.

    I do however wish that more films of the Nazi era would become available now to view and study. If this one is available on DVD and VHS than this must be mild as compared to others.
    6paul_m_haakonsen

    Quite impressive...

    I stumbled upon this 1943 German produced depiction of the Titanic events by random chance here in 2023. And seeing that it was made as German propaganda during World War II, I must admit that I was a bit hesitant about watching it.

    However, I opted to give the movie the benefit of the doubt, and while the script and storyline, as written by Harald Bratt, Hansi Köck, Herbert Selpin and Walter Zerlett-Olfeniusm wasn't exactly fully historically accurate, then it was actually a surprisingly well-made movie.

    Sure, the storyline is one that I am well-familiar with already, even way before 1997 and the James Cameron movie, since I have been historically interested in the events of Titanic since I was a child back in the mid-1980s. And while there were some twists to the historical events here in the movie, I will say that directors Herbert Selpin and Werner Klingler actually put together an entertaining movie. And with it being made in 1943 and in black and white, the movie actually still holds up today.

    Needless to say that I wasn't familiar with the cast ensemble here, as I have very limited experience with the German cinema, much less the World War II era of German cinema. But the actors and actresses on the cast list put on good performances.

    Visually then I was acturally impressed with this 1943 version of the Titanic story. The props and sets were quite amazing, and really looked impressive, even in black and white. It was clear that they had put a lot of effort and money into making the interior of the Titanic come to life.

    Something that was a bit annoying about the movie was the German language. Not that I mind the language in itself, but it was just odd to have native English speaking characters in the storyline speak German. But if you can look past that, then this "Titanic" movie as quite good.

    My rating of "Titanic" lands on a six out of ten stars.
    8lawprof

    A Dramatic, Effective Telling of the Titanic Story - From Nazi Germany

    It's not that common in movie history that a director angers the producer/distributor of his movie so much that the latter has the former murdered. That's what happened to co-director Herbert Selpin in 1942 before the release of Germany's film contribution to the Titanic saga. Dr. Josef Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda minister and self-anointed arbiter of culture in the Third Reich, had the Gestapo arrest Selpin who was reported dead in his cell the day after. Suicide? Ridiculous.

    The Titanic story has been told many times on film, both as documentary and as drama. Interest currently appears to intensify with the same speed as the over-visited wreck rapidly succumbs to a final ballet of disintegration.

    Years ago The Film Society of Lincoln Center ran a retrospective of movies produced during the Third Reich. For most attendees it was a revelation, and a disturbing one at that. Many are familiar with the late Leni Reifenstahl's documentary paean to the Olympics (propaganda aside, one of the greatest films of that genre) and the odious "Jude Suss" is the iconographic movie symbolism of Nazi antisemitism. Few were aware how much genuine creativity, free of obvious dogmatism, emerged from that twelve-year period of German darkness and depravity. The retrospective made many think about the complexity of life in 1933-1945 Germany.

    One of the films I saw was the 1943 "Titanic" which had a small premiere followed by an order from Goebbels pulling the movie. Ostensibly, Germans were not to be exposed to seeing the panic on the great liner as it foundered (actually most Germans, especially those in urban areas, had more visible frequent reasons to panic by 1943.

    Selpin (with co-director Werner Klingler) turned out a sumptuous, ornate and dramatically compelling movie. Largely using the known facts, "Titanic" tells the well worn tale of a ship driven to unreasonable and dangerous speeds in order to set a record. There are some significant deviations. Here, the English first officer - seized with some malady - is replaced by a German seaman named Petersen, a model of experience and rectitude. J. Bruce Ismay, whose social life was justifiably ruined because of his escaping the sinking behemoth, is unrealistically portrayed as a grasping cad whose crudity was not found in the self-absorbed, rich and supinely confident real shipping magnate. The vessel's master, Captain Smith, is overly subservient to Ismay but he responds well to the disaster.

    This movie wasn't made on the cheap. Given the deteriorating wartime situation, a lot of marks were expended for terrific sets and fine attire.

    There's no real Nazi propaganda. The movie ends with a comment that English greed occasioned the loss of so many lives but very many books and articles from Old Blighty and the U.S. echo that view.

    Because of its anti-British utterances, the Allies banned the movie in their sectors in Germany at first while it was freely available in the Soviet zone. Hardly a surprise-that movie maven, Stalin, probably loved this capitalist-bashing film.

    KINO VIDEO has performed a real service by releasing the film on DVD. There are two versions-this release is the shorter one without the trial scene in which survivor Petersen rails against the British in court. Actually the movie is stronger for that omission. After she goes down, what else is there really to say?

    There are some interesting special features on the disc including an early commercial short made by the White Star Line showing the amenities of RMS Olympic, another luxury liner built before Titanic (technically, Olympic wasn't a sister ship of its more famous and briefly triumphant successor but the differences aren't important).

    This is an important release for Titanic buffs but also for those interested in film-making in Nazi Germany. There were movies made that deserve current viewing for reasons apart from their historic association with a barbaric regime.

    7/10
    6secondtake

    Decent Titanic flick, but stiff and pale. As German propaganda it's good for some laughs.

    Titanic (1943)

    Goebbels takes on the Titanic. And loses. In fact, the movie languished in hiding or in bad t.v. versions until 2005.

    This is the most expensive German film to date, and its technical competence pales next to American films of the same period. It uses the sinking of the Titanic as a vehicle to criticize the avarice of capitalist England, their enemy at the time. So along with the usual drama of love and chivalry and overconfidence, there is a story of stock trading and of racing the ship at top speed in order to break the record and raise the company's value per share.

    All of which isn't totally improbable, and as a weird Nazi view of the world it's pretty fascinating. In truth, it's not a bad film. But in truth, it's not something you need to bother with unless the political propaganda aspects sound appealing. Or unless you are just curious about different film versions of the events. The effects here are vivid and often very realistic until they show the ship from the water. The interpersonal acting is uneven and a bit stiff going, usually, with some caricaturing used as a way to avoid character development.

    If you want a classic older Titanic film for the pure drama of the disaster, I suggest the 1958 A Night to Remember (a British production) over the American 1953 Titanic which has star power but is boring by comparison. Of course, there is the 1997 version, in color, which has its own problems and dazzlements. But stop to at least imagine what the Nazi regime could possibly have been thinking, spending a ton of money on an unlikely movie just as the tide is turning against them in the war. And watch how terrific they paint the one German officer on the ship, telling the truth and saving lives like no one else. Propaganda, for sure, but not a horrible movie, as a movie, either.
    7Hörnla

    Not as bad as expected

    Look out for the scene when Petersen forces his Ex to enter the lifeboat and then guess who watched this movie quite carefully...James Cameron maybe? To put it short, if you are able to substract the propaganda and the resulting errors, it is better than the 1953-US version, especially regarding the special effects. Could anyone check out which ship "doubled" the Titanic? If it really is the "Gustloff" then we have a case of very bitter irony here...

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    • Anecdotes
      Director Herbert Selpin was arrested by the Gestapo during this film's production. He was found hanged in his cell the following day.
    • Gaffes
      It is stated in the movie that the Titanic was the fastest liner in the world, and that she was traveling at 26 1/2 knots near the beginning of the voyage. The Titanic could only travel at 23 knots, and she never traveled at her top speed before her sinking. Besides this, the RMS Mauretania was capable of 27 knots, so 26 1/2 wouldn't have been enough to beat her.
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      1st Officer Petersen: [enters a room]

      Gloria: [behind a curtain] Is anybody there?

      1st Officer Petersen: Yes, Petersen. Please put on your life jackets and go on deck immediately.

      Gloria: Oh deck? Why?

      1st Officer Petersen: I'm not authorized to give passangers audditional information.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: [comes behind the curtain] One moment. But you will give ME information.

      1st Officer Petersen: To you, as the president responsible for this, I WILL give information: The Titanic is sinking.

      Gloria: The Titanic is sinking?

      Sir Bruce Ismay: What are you saying?

      1st Officer Petersen: The Titanic is sinking.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: [laughs]

      1st Officer Petersen: We collidition with an iceberg. The Titanic is ripped open from the bow till under the bridge.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: Don't tell nonsense.

      1st Officer Petersen: You'll soon see, thatever it's nonsense. In jsut a few hours it's all over and a few thousand will be on the bottom because of you

      Gloria: But we have lifeboats.

      1st Officer Petersen: The lifeboats will hold almost a third of the passengers.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: I order you to secure a lifeboat for me immediately.

      1st Officer Petersen: First: You can't give me orders, Second: according to the law: women and children go first and third I'll give you the advice to go in you cabin and get your life jacket

      [about to leave the room]

      1st Officer Petersen: .

      Sir Bruce Ismay: Stay here!

      1st Officer Petersen: What else do you want?

      Sir Bruce Ismay: Please lets talk as man to man. Forget about the earlier momant this evening. I was nervous it was a momental excitement. I beg you: get me a lifeboat.

      1st Officer Petersen: YOU should have been got the lifeboats.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: No. Be reasonable. I'll give you five - I'll give you $10 000,-. Save me a place.

      1st Officer Petersen: [pushs Ismay away and leaves]

      Sir Bruce Ismay: We'll see if I'll come along.

    • Versions alternatives
      The Allied approved censored version ran 80 minutes and omitted two scenes; one where the British officers make snide comments about Petersen's presence on board the "Titanic" and, more substantially, the entire epilogue where Officer Petersen condemns Bruce Ismay's actions during the inquiry into the sinking. The final inter-title that blames the disaster on British capitalism was also removed.
    • Connexions
      Edited into Le choix de...: The Titanic Incident (1955)
    • Bandes originales
      God Save The King
      (uncredited)

      Traditional, often attributed to Thomas Augustine Arne or Henry Carey

      (British national anthem)

      played at the first dinner

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      • 7 février 1950 (Allemagne de l'Ouest)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Allemagne
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