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Those We Love

  • 1932
  • Not Rated
  • 1h 12min
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5,7/10
165
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Mary Astor, Hale Hamilton, Kenneth MacKenna, and Lilyan Tashman in Those We Love (1932)
DrameRomance

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA young author meets and marries the woman who bought the first copy of his new book. They live happily with their son, but some time later, as the husband is moving into the family's new ho... Tout lireA young author meets and marries the woman who bought the first copy of his new book. They live happily with their son, but some time later, as the husband is moving into the family's new home, a woman in the neighborhood tries to seduce him. Although he resists, his wife becomes... Tout lireA young author meets and marries the woman who bought the first copy of his new book. They live happily with their son, but some time later, as the husband is moving into the family's new home, a woman in the neighborhood tries to seduce him. Although he resists, his wife becomes very suspicious, and her distrust threatens to ruin the whole family.

  • Réalisation
    • Robert Florey
  • Scénario
    • George Abbott
    • F. Hugh Herbert
    • S.K. Lauren
  • Casting principal
    • Mary Astor
    • Kenneth MacKenna
    • Lilyan Tashman
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,7/10
    165
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Robert Florey
    • Scénario
      • George Abbott
      • F. Hugh Herbert
      • S.K. Lauren
    • Casting principal
      • Mary Astor
      • Kenneth MacKenna
      • Lilyan Tashman
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  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Rôles principaux17

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    Mary Astor
    Mary Astor
    • May Ballard
    Kenneth MacKenna
    Kenneth MacKenna
    • Freddie Williston
    Lilyan Tashman
    Lilyan Tashman
    • Valerie
    Hale Hamilton
    Hale Hamilton
    • Blake
    Tommy Conlon
    Tommy Conlon
    • Ricky
    Earle Foxe
    Earle Foxe
    • Bert Parker
    Forrester Harvey
    Forrester Harvey
    • Jake
    Virginia Sale
    Virginia Sale
    • Bertha
    Pat O'Malley
    Pat O'Malley
    • Daley
    Harvey Clark
    Harvey Clark
    • Mr. Hart
    Cecil Cunningham
    Cecil Cunningham
    • Mrs. Henry Abbott
    Edwin Maxwell
    Edwin Maxwell
    • Marshall
    Wilson Benge
    Wilson Benge
      Sidney Bracey
      Sidney Bracey
        Hank Mann
        Hank Mann
          Bert Roach
          Bert Roach
            Christian Rub
            Christian Rub
              • Réalisation
                • Robert Florey
              • Scénario
                • George Abbott
                • F. Hugh Herbert
                • S.K. Lauren
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              5boblipton

              Westchester County: Den of Iniquity

              There's good news and bad news for Kenneth MacKenna. The good news is that his first novel is finally published and at the bookstores (remember bookstores?). The bad news -- for the new author, at any rate -- is that it's Armistice Day, so no one is buying books. Except that when he goes on the street, he finds Mary Astor with his book. So they get married. Things are tough at first, but by 1931, he's established and prosperous and buys a house in Westchester County. He's up there by himself, because Miss Astor is in Baltimore working on a collection of folk songs and his son is at camp. So there's only the welcome wagon, headed by Lilyan Tashman, who wants to make herself very welcome.

              It's from a stage play co-written by George Abbott, with F. Hugh Herbert doing the screenplay. The direction is by Robert Florey, and I expect that's why this movie is not as good as it might have been. Visually it's fine. With Mary Astor, how could it not be? Florey directs the visuals very well, with Arthur Edeson doing his usual fine job running the camera, but the line readings are a bit mechanical. Everyone is very emphatic, turning every line into a speech. Maybe it's the sound system at Tiffany Studios, where this was filmed.

              Whatever the reason for the failures, it's a fine story, nevertheless. Miss Astor, of course, would become a fine actress, and Mr. McKenna would be no slouch as a supporting actor.
              7ksf-2

              m astor in an early talkie

              Mary Astor had been in films for ten years already by now. Mostly silents, of course. and she would go on to get an Oscar for "The Great Lie" in 1941. Here she's "May", the wife of author Freddie Williston (Ken MacKenna). Lilyan Tashman plays the (married) woman running after Freddie.... Tashman has a most interesting story here on her imdb bio page. Sadly, Tashman died quite young at 37. May sees some suspicious things at the house when she returns early, and doesn't trust Freddie any longer. We watch as the plot thickens. Some other big names in here. Edwin Maxwell is "Marshall". Keep an eye out for comedian Bert Roach, who usually played the drunk, or the jolly character in the background. Cecil Cunningham is the pompous, rich old lady who fires May. Cunningham had just broken into hollywood, and would play similar parts for many years. Moves pretty slow. Lots of talking... you can tell this started out as a play. It's pretty average. the usual misunderstandings, married couples who aren't sure where things stand. Directed by Robert Florey, who had started en france, and worked his way to hollywood.
              3HotToastyRag

              Wife blamed for cheating

              I don't know why it was such a popular theme during the early 1930s to have an unfaithful husband inadvertently blame his wife for his straying, because she neglected him or went away to care for her sick mother. If a man's left alone, he's not responsible for his actions? If you don't like that theme either, don't rent Those We Love.

              Since you already know what happens, the beginning of the film is quite sad. Kenneth MacKenna has just written and published his first novel, and he happens to bump into the first purchaser of his book on the street, Mary Astor. He kisses her in thanks, and then pursues her romantically. Their courtship is so romantic and so sweet, it's unthinkable that Kenneth will end up cheating on her, as the synopsis reveals. Well, as the movie progresses, they marry and have a child, and then temptation takes its form in Lilyan Tashman.

              Just like another Mary Astor film Smart Woman, the overwhelming theme of this film is that a wife is to blame for her husband's infidelity, and that after such betrayal is committed, it's her job to apologize and beg forgiveness. And just like Smart Woman, the husband's character is not written to be a wonderful person, so the audience can at least understand why the wife fights so hard to keep him.
              4planktonrules

              I had a hard time really caring...

              Freddie (Kenneth MacKenna) has just returned from the war and has written a book. His publisher believes in him but tells him it will take time and several books before he's famous. Soon he sees a woman on the street with his book in her arms! May (Mary Astor) is his first fan...and Freddie is certainly a fan of hers as well. Soon they are married and the film jumps ahead many years. Now they have a nearly grown son and Freddie is a butt-head. That's because a married floozy is throwing herself at him and instead of immediately stopping this, he lets her flirtations go on too long. However, despite this he does love his family...and only the most understanding (and perhaps stupid) of wives could forgive his stupidity.

              There is a HUGE problem with the movie....I just didn't care much about the characters. Freddie was difficult to love and his wife seemed like a bit of a doormat. But mostly, they were bland characters and I never particularly felt involved with any of them.
              6ldeangelis-75708

              A Reflection on How Far We've Gone

              The most poignant thing about this movie is its stance on infidelity, which (although it happened often enough, particularly with celebrities) had both a social and moral significance that can be laughable in today's polyamorous, open relationship, casual hookup climate. In some ways, we could use a time machine!

              Be that as it may, this short movie deals with some heavy issues, like whether infidelity should be punished, or overlooked when there's children concerned? Is divorce the answer, or should you try again? Is the love strong enough to overcome the hurt and betrayal or is the pain too deep?

              While sympathy is on the side of the wronged wife (Mary Astor), you can't help feeling some for the unfaithful husband (Kenneth MacKenna), who deeply regrets his transgression, which apparently was a one-time thing.

              There's also some for the other woman (Lilyan Tashman), married to an abusive, serial cheater and threatened with divorce and disgrace by him, in a perfect example of hypocrisy and the double standard.

              There's also Mary and Kenneth's son (Tommy Conlon), who at 13 is old enough to understand, and also young enough to want his parents to stay together.

              This gives you a lot to think about and while not the best of the Pre Code films, still worth watching.

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              • Anecdotes
                Those We Love opened at the John Golden Theater on February 19, 1930 and ran for 77 performances.
              • Citations

                Valerie: Oh, Freddie, come on--let's be gay just for one night.

                Freddie Williston: Allright, why not?

              • Crédits fous
                Opening credits are shown as pages of the book on which the film is based..."Those we Love".

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              • Date de sortie
                • 11 septembre 1932 (États-Unis)
              • Pays d’origine
                • États-Unis
              • Langue
                • Anglais
              • Aussi connu sous le nom de
                • Nuestros amores
              • Lieux de tournage
                • Tiffany Studios - 4500 Sunset Blvd., Los Angeles, Californie, États-Unis
              • Société de production
                • K.B.S. Productions Inc.
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              • Durée
                • 1h 12min(72 min)
              • Couleur
                • Black and White
              • Rapport de forme
                • 1.37 : 1

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