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Other Men's Women

  • 1930
  • Passed
  • 1h 11min
NOTE IMDb
6,4/10
1,5 k
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Mary Astor and Grant Withers in Other Men's Women (1930)
DrameRomance

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueEvents take an unhappy turn for two Bill and Jack, two locomotive engineers, after Bill is attracted to his best friend's wife.Events take an unhappy turn for two Bill and Jack, two locomotive engineers, after Bill is attracted to his best friend's wife.Events take an unhappy turn for two Bill and Jack, two locomotive engineers, after Bill is attracted to his best friend's wife.

  • Réalisation
    • William A. Wellman
  • Scénario
    • Maude Fulton
    • Billy K. Wells
  • Casting principal
    • Grant Withers
    • Mary Astor
    • Regis Toomey
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • NOTE IMDb
    6,4/10
    1,5 k
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    • Réalisation
      • William A. Wellman
    • Scénario
      • Maude Fulton
      • Billy K. Wells
    • Casting principal
      • Grant Withers
      • Mary Astor
      • Regis Toomey
    • 39avis d'utilisateurs
    • 17avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Rôles principaux15

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    Grant Withers
    Grant Withers
    • Bill White
    Mary Astor
    Mary Astor
    • Lily Kulper
    Regis Toomey
    Regis Toomey
    • Jack Kulper
    James Cagney
    James Cagney
    • Ed
    Fred Kohler
    Fred Kohler
    • Haley
    J. Farrell MacDonald
    J. Farrell MacDonald
    • Peg-Leg
    Joan Blondell
    Joan Blondell
    • Marie
    Lillian Worth
    Lillian Worth
    • Waitress
    Walter Long
    Walter Long
    • Bixby
    Pat Harmon
    Pat Harmon
    • Railroad Worker at Lunch Counter
    • (non crédité)
    Pat Hartigan
    Pat Hartigan
    • Yardmaster
    • (non crédité)
    Lee Moran
    Lee Moran
    • Railroad Worker at Lunch Counter
    • (non crédité)
    Kewpie Morgan
    Kewpie Morgan
    • Railroad Worker
    • (non crédité)
    Bob Perry
    Bob Perry
    • Railroad Worker
    • (non crédité)
    Lucille Ward
    Lucille Ward
    • Miss Astor - Bill's Landlady
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • William A. Wellman
    • Scénario
      • Maude Fulton
      • Billy K. Wells
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    5Tipster

    Approach with modest expectations

    The plot is pure hokum, so it's the extras that "make" the movie: The backdrop of trains and trainyards, Joan Blondell in an extraneous role as a saucy waitress, James Cagney in an early supporting part (he has a nice bit on top of a moving train, and also does some dancing), J. Farrell MacDonald helping plant peas by making holes in the dirt with his peg leg, cool bridge and train miniatures, etc. Approach with modest expectations
    7kyle_furr

    not bad

    I had never heard of this movie but the only reason i watched it was because of James Cagney. Cagney had a pretty small part but i didn't mind. This movie stars Grant Withers and Regis Toomey as best friends who work as railroad conductors and Toomey is married to Mary Astor. Withers is dating Joan Blondell but he falls in love with Mary Astor instead. Withers is staying at Toomey's house but he leaves because he doesn't want to hurt Toomey. Toomey finds out why he left and they get in a fight on the train and cause an accident. After the accident they find Toomey is blind and then this big storm comes. I don't wont to spoil the ending because you can find it out for yourself. Both Withers and Toomey are good and so is Mary Astor and Joan Blondell.
    5bkoganbing

    Filed for Future Reference

    I have no doubt that when William Wellman directed James Cagney in Other Men's Women he had him filed for future reference and then used him so successfully in The Public Enemy. Cagney and Joan Blondell in secondary parts outshine the leads of Grant Withers, Mary Astor, and Regis Toomey in this working man's love triangle film.

    Not that the leads give bad performances, but charisma can't be kept down. Toomey is a railroad worker married to Astor and one night he brings an inebriated Grant Withers home to sleep it off. Turns out that Withers and Astor knew each other back in the day and before long the love sparks start going off.

    Around this time Grant Withers was married to Loretta Young ever so briefly, but in Young's Catholic tradition, the marriage was annulled due to his real life drinking and carousing. Withers's excesses led his career on a downward spiral and he took work where he got it and in mostly lower grade films until his suicide in 1959. John Wayne tried to use him in films when he could. Withers would appear in support of James Cagney in 1954 in Run for Cover as a western outlaw leader.

    Toomey was a very competent character actor, but just not lead material. Still he does well and in a few years he'd be supporting James Cagney in G-Men. Mary Astor is fine, but far from Brigid O'Shaughnessy, you'd never know it was the same actress.

    Cagney as a friend to both Withers and Toomey and Blondell in an early gem of a part as a wisecracking waitress, show exactly why they would rise to the top of the Warner Brothers pecking order.

    William Wellman did some very nice location photography in and around the railroad yards, very similar in fact to that done by John Frankenheimer in The Train. And Wellman got good performances from his cast.

    But I'm sure he had no doubt as to who a future star was.
    7secondtake

    Simplistic and corny but so well made you can still really enjoy it.

    Other Men's Women (1931)

    If you only watch the first twenty minutes of this you'll get a slightly corny movie about a couple of pals and a couple of gals and a slightly mixed set of affections that is pure innocence. The acting is a little forced, but there is good fluid camera-work, bright, complex scenes, and all kinds of really rare location shooting in railroad yards (and on top of railroad cars). It's fun in its own way, but the two main male characters are so happy and glib they seem weirdly dated.

    But then the first twist comes into play--and the title gives an idea there (though it shouldn't be plural, I would think). Also, remember this is a pre-code film so it plays openly with things like adultery in a way that wouldn't happen starting in 1934, three years later.

    Now don't get the idea that things get too steamed up here. It's still a depression era big studio romance and it isn't going to take actual chances morally. Or aesthetically. The leading woman is a very young Mary Astor and she's terrific, more naturalistic than the men (neither of whom is well known). The male actor of growing fame (or future fame, largely) is James Cagney, and his role is very very limited, but familiar. He has an edgy intensity that is startling--and he can dance, too. Briefly. Look for Joan Blondell, as well, and though she was in endless films (50 of them just in the 1930s) she's always perky and alive.

    The movie never quite rises above its plain approach and this is appropriate because it makes it possible for the movie to talk about what might go wrong between very regular people in a case of one man hitting on the other's wife. It is always rather open and accessible in its own way, you might even say modern in the way it's filmed. Director William Wellman isn't always appreciated on the highest level, but he had an unaffected touch, less art and more humanity, than some other more famous directors, and it's in full force here, easy to like.

    The movie also surprised me with its effects and its high drama toward the end. I won't say more, but the rain just won't stop. Great atmosphere, lots of night shooting in the rain, and a scary climax, visually (not so compelling dramatically, I'm afraid). Great fun!

    So why isn't this better than it is? One is a script that is a bit awkward or forced at times, both in the dialog and in the forced melodrama. The other is some acting (by the two men--Grant Withers and Regis Toomey) that is just weak. And the situations are highly emotional and demanding. This is another of Wellman's traits, unfortunately--even in his acclaimed and astonishing "Wings" from 1927 there is a feeling of some kind of acting and writing stiffness that brings down an otherwise brilliant kind of production.

    Should you see this? If you like early talkies, yes. If you want a tight story with intelligence and depth, I'm not so sure. Enter forewarned. I liked it, I did, but I partly just got, uh, swept away by the way it was shot. And the common DVD transfer from film is first rate, clean and clear!
    6AlsExGal

    Riding the rails in 1930 with a precode attitude

    This film stars Grant Withers as railroad worker Bill White who becomes enamored of the wife (Mary Astor) of his close friend Jack (Regis Toomey). Both men are railroad workers, and prior to coming home to live with Jack and his wife, Bill has been romancing a tough waitress (Joan Blondell) among others, getting drunk every night to the point of almost losing his job, and finally gets ejected from his rooming house for his rowdiness. Specifically Bill ran some bathwater, passed out drunk, and the bath overflowed. At Jack's house Bill finds the kind of home he's never had, and he and Jack's wife, Lily, fall in love, but due to their mutual loyalty to Jack, do nothing about it. However, Jack does find out about how the two feel about one another and he and Bill have it out one night on the train in what turns out to be a very bad place for a fist fight. Grant Withers never made it as a leading man, and it is interesting to see him in this film, and also in his previous leading role "Sinner's Holiday", getting upstaged by the dynamic James Cagney, who has a very small role in both movies.

    The story is not that original, but the gritty depression era work conditions of the rail yards and the dusty cafés juxtaposed with Jack and Lily's quaint little home and lush little garden make for great imagery. Then there's that tough precode attitude that is in its infancy over at Warner Brothers at this time. This all makes the film interesting beyond the basic paint-by-numbers plot and therefore worth a look.

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    • Anecdotes
      Although the title card bears a 1930 copyright statement, this film was apparently never registered with the U.S. Copyright Office, under either of its two titles. It was completed in mid-1930, and reviewed in Motion Picture Herald 4 October 1930, and in Photoplay Magazine in December 1930, but did not open in New York City until April 1931.
    • Gaffes
      When Bill and Lily are embracing in the kitchen in front of the stove the moving shadow of the boom microphone is visible on the wall below the window behind them.
    • Citations

      [behind the lunch counter at the railroad yard, gum-chewing waitress Marie hears a train whistle - her cue to get ready to meet her boyfriend, Bill]

      Marie: [taking off her apron] Anything else you guys want?

      Railroad worker at Lunch Counter: Yeah, gimme a big slice a' you on toast, and some French-fried potatoes on the side.

      Marie: [taking out her compact and powdering her face] Listen, baby, I'm A.P.O.

      Railroad worker at Lunch Counter: [to the other railroad worker] What does she mean, A.P.O.?

      Marie: Ain't Puttin' Out! Besides, I'm Bill White's girl, and I'm a one-man woman.

      Railroad worker at Lunch Counter: That's a hot one, Marie.

      Marie: Whattaya mean "that's a hot one"?

      Railroad worker at Lunch Counter: Didn't I see you down ta Fishbeck's Dance Hall with Elmer Brown?

      Marie: Oh yeah. Elmer's a kind of a cousin of mine.

      Railroad worker at Lunch Counter: Oh! Some cousins are sure affectionate.

      Marie: Nevertheless, he's my distant cousin.

      Railroad worker at Lunch Counter: That's her story, and she's gonna stick to it.

      Marie: It's the story Bill's gonna hear unless you guys do some broadcasting of your own.

      Railroad worker at Lunch Counter: Well, don't worry. Not me. I ain't gonna get in no trouble.

      Marie: [walking toward the door] Then stop shootin' off your big mouth.

      Railroad worker at Lunch Counter: Hey Marie. Wouldja gimme a flock a' donuts with small holes?

      Marie: [at the door, hand on hip] If there're any small holes around here, I'll eat 'em myself.

      [the men laugh as she leaves the diner]

    • Connexions
      Featured in Routine Pleasures (1986)
    • Bandes originales
      Wherever You Stray, Wherever You Go
      (uncredited)

      Composer unknown

      Sung a cappella by Grant Withers, J. Farrell MacDonald and Mary Astor

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    • How long is Other Men's Women?Alimenté par Alexa

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    • Date de sortie
      • 17 janvier 1931 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Steel Highway
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Southern Pacific River Station Yards, Los Angeles, Californie, États-Unis(exterior scenes)
    • Société de production
      • Warner Bros.
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      • 1h 11min(71 min)
    • Couleur
      • Black and White

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