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La piste des géants

Titre original : The Big Trail
  • 1930
  • Tous publics
  • 2h 5min
NOTE IMDb
7,2/10
4,9 k
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John Wayne and Marguerite Churchill in La piste des géants (1930)
Classical WesternAdventureDramaRomanceWestern

Breck Coleman conduit des centaines de colons en chariots couverts depuis le fleuve Mississippi vers leur destin dans l'Ouest.Breck Coleman conduit des centaines de colons en chariots couverts depuis le fleuve Mississippi vers leur destin dans l'Ouest.Breck Coleman conduit des centaines de colons en chariots couverts depuis le fleuve Mississippi vers leur destin dans l'Ouest.

  • Réalisation
    • Raoul Walsh
    • Louis R. Loeffler
  • Scénario
    • Hal G. Evarts
    • Marie Boyle
    • Jack Peabody
  • Casting principal
    • John Wayne
    • Marguerite Churchill
    • El Brendel
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • NOTE IMDb
    7,2/10
    4,9 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Raoul Walsh
      • Louis R. Loeffler
    • Scénario
      • Hal G. Evarts
      • Marie Boyle
      • Jack Peabody
    • Casting principal
      • John Wayne
      • Marguerite Churchill
      • El Brendel
    • 88avis d'utilisateurs
    • 37avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 5 victoires au total

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    Rôles principaux59

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    John Wayne
    John Wayne
    • Breck Coleman
    Marguerite Churchill
    Marguerite Churchill
    • Ruth Cameron
    El Brendel
    El Brendel
    • Gus
    Tully Marshall
    Tully Marshall
    • Zeke
    Tyrone Power Sr.
    Tyrone Power Sr.
    • Red Flack
    • (as Tyrone Power)
    David Rollins
    David Rollins
    • Dave Cameron
    Frederick Burton
    Frederick Burton
    • Pa Bascom
    Ian Keith
    Ian Keith
    • Bill Thorpe
    Charles Stevens
    Charles Stevens
    • Lopez
    Louise Carver
    Louise Carver
    • Gus's Mother-in-Law
    Victor Adamson
    Victor Adamson
    • Wagon Train Man
    • (non crédité)
    Phyllis Bainbridge
    • Pioneer
    • (non crédité)
    Chief John Big Tree
    Chief John Big Tree
    • Indian
    • (non crédité)
    Ward Bond
    Ward Bond
    • Sid Bascom
    • (non crédité)
    Nora Bush
    • Pioneer
    • (non crédité)
    Martin Cichy
    Martin Cichy
    • Pioneer
    • (non crédité)
    Don Coleman
    Don Coleman
    • Wrangler
    • (non crédité)
    Nancy Crowley
    • Pioneer Child
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Raoul Walsh
      • Louis R. Loeffler
    • Scénario
      • Hal G. Evarts
      • Marie Boyle
      • Jack Peabody
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    • Production, box office et plus encore chez IMDbPro

    Avis des utilisateurs88

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    Kelly-17

    Good wagons, wagon circling, and gun smoke. Corny but good historical props.

    This movie is impressive for the type of physical props used. The wagons were real Conestoga, not the cut-down replicas seen in later movies. The circling of the wagons to fend off an attack by the locals was done with realism -- wagons overlapped with draft animals placed inside the ring -- resulting in what seems like hundreds milling about in the center. And when the shooting starts the wagons virtually disappear in the smoke. Very good representation of 'real life' (I shoot muzzle loading rifles so I know about the smoke part of it). Too bad I can't find this one on laserdisc for my library...
    9RAS-3

    Big, gritty and ... wide screen in 1930?

    John Wayne's first starring role just blew me away. Televised letterbox style on AMC, I had to check and make sure I had the right date. Sure enough, this 1930 film was made using a 55 mm wide-screen process. Aside from that, it features some of the grittiest, most realistic footage of the trek west I've seen. Wagons, men and animals are really lowered down a cliff face by rope. Trees are chopped by burly men -- and burly women -- so the train can move another 10 feet. The Indians are not the "pretty boy" city slickers who portrayed them later; they're the real deal. A river crossing in a driving rain storm is so realistic, it has to be real (In fact, I understand that director Raoul Walsh nearly lost the entire cast during this sequence). I could smell the wet canvas. Each day is an agony. The various sub-plots are forgettable but the film as a whole is not. I can't think of another title that can beat The Big Trail in evoking a sense of living history on the trail to Oregon. Bravo.
    8AlsExGal

    What if someone made a western 20 years ahead of its time and nobody came?,

    By 1930, Fox had already conquered making sound movies outdoors due to being an early adopter of sound on film versus sound on disc. Next they tried their hand at widescreen films. Known as 70mm Grandeur, Fox shot three films in this process, this film and two musicals - The Fox Movietone Follies of 1929 and Happy Days (1929). The process was successful, the business end of their widescreen process was not. Due to the Great Depression, theaters could not afford to install the equipment necessary to show films in the Grandeur process. It's interesting to note that if sound itself had come into feature films in 1929 rather than 1927, that silent films would probably have been the majority of films made until 1940 for this same reason.

    The Big Trail itself is a wonderfully modern-seeming western compared to other entries of the early sound era. It has an air of authenticity about it, as there is almost a documentary feel of the film in its depiction of harsh life on the Oregon Trail. Finally, there is the reason most people view this film - the birth of John Wayne's cowboy persona, not a cartoon character with either a black or white hat as many actors in the early westerns were, but a character of flesh and blood whose motivations you could understand and empathize with. Also note the presence of Ward Bond in a supporting role who, along with John Wayne, was a staple of the later John Ford westerns.

    Despite its technical beauty and the presence of John Wayne, this film flopped at the box office. John Wayne went back into obscurity and did not emerge again until nine years later in "Stagecoach", where he played a part very similar to the one he plays here.
    jacksflicks

    How the West was Won

    Critics generally pan this flick, probably because of its crudeness, clichés and caricatures. The critics are wrong. What we are watching in "The Big Trail" is the closest to the history of the American west that we will ever see, outside the silent classics of William S. Hart.

    Early movies could use or consult people WHO HAD BEEN THERE. Of course, USC quarterback John Wayne, or even Irish thespian Tyrone Power, Sr. (who tried farming and hated it) are exceptions, but there is a ring of authenticity with "The Big Trail" which you can't get second hand. And if those aren't real plains Indians by the hundreds, I'll eat my breech clout!

    And the scenery! Unfortunately, cinematographers hadn't mastered filters, so the sky is always washed out, and dust and haze obscure the deep focus. But even these limitations paradoxically serve to provide a feel of endless horizons. And the locations are spectacular, especially the Indian village, which is so enormous that at first I thought half of it was backdrop. Then, there is the spectacular rope drop of animals and equipment down an escarpment that could have inspired Herzog's "Fizcarraldo".

    Of course, the acting is hammy and dialog corny, but remember, The Big Trail is from 1930 and that early sound movies had yet to evolve fully from silent film technique, which called for pantomime, with its exaggerated facial expression and movement. Also bear in mind that the style of reading lines came directly from the theater stage from which lines, lacking voice amplification, were delivered as oratory to be heard in the back rows.

    Robert Flaherty in his landmark documentary "Nanuk of the North" actually set up his scenes dramatically. He was by no means a fly on the wall. If Flaherty could have made a documentary about the epic journey of a pioneer wagon train through the great Western prairies, I doubt if he could have achieved much greater impact than "The Big Trail".
    carmine107s

    An early sound classic

    This movie literally stopped me in my tracks while it was on the TV and i was moving my furniture out of my apartment! Its that good .I found the scope and breath of not only the production but the story to be a real delight.The uneven sound quality (remember this 1930) -actors turning away from the microphone and becoming mute,the fact that many of the old-timers acting in this movie were actually plains people and had lived amongst the very type of people they were portraying gave this film a unique feel of authenticity. The Duke even comes off as a real actor in this first rate oater. How he didn't become a star for 9 more years is a real mystery.All in all a must see!!

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    • Anecdotes
      Incredibly, six different versions of this film were shot simultaneously: (1) a 70mm version in the Grandeur process for exhibition in the biggest movie palaces, (2) a standard 35mm version for general release, (3) a 35mm alternate French-language version La piste des géants (1931)', (4) a 35mm alternate Spanish-language version La gran jornada (1931), (5) a 35mm alternate German-language version Die große Fahrt (1931), and (6) a 35mm alternate Italian-language version Il grande sentiero (1931). The four alternate-language versions were shot with (mostly) different casts.
    • Gaffes
      Based on the 26 star flag (1837-1845), the film takes place in the 1840s. Many of the settlers use Springfield Model 1873 "trapdoor" rifles. This was common in Hollywood because the 1873 was based on the 1861 rifled musket, which closed a continuous line of muskets going back to 1795, so it easily could stand in for a muzzle loading musket to the untrained eye.
    • Citations

      Breck Coleman, Wagon Train Scout: We can't turn back! We're blazing a trail that started in England. Not even the storms of the sea could turn back the first settlers. And they carrie dit on further. They blazed it on through the wilderness of Kentucky. Famine, hunger, not even massacres could stop them. And now we picked up the trail again. And nothing can stop us! Not even the snows of winter, nor the peaks of the highest mountain. We're building a nation and we got to suffer! No great trail was ever built without hardship. And you got to fight! That's right. And when you stop fighting, that's death. What are you going to do, lay down and die? Not in a thousand years! You're going on with me!

    • Crédits fous
      Opening credits prologue: DEDICATED- To the men and women who planted civilization in the wilderness and courage in the blood of their children.

      Gathered from the north, the south, and the east, they assemble on the bank of the Mississippi for the conquest of the west.
    • Versions alternatives
      Filmed in two versions simultaneously: widescreen process Grandeur in 70mm, and in standard 35mm. Some scenes were shot simultaneously in both formats; other scenes were shot twice, once for each format. The two versions are not identical in content - the 70mm version runs 125 minutes, while the 35mm version runs a shorter 108 minutes (but does contain some scenes not found in the longer widescreen version).
    • Connexions
      Alternate-language version of La gran jornada (1931)
    • Bandes originales
      Song of the Big Trail
      (1930) (uncredited)

      Music by James F. Hanley

      Lyrics by Joseph McCarthy

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    • How long is The Big Trail?Alimenté par Alexa

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    • Date de sortie
      • 17 juin 1970 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • La gran jornada
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Jackson Hole, Wyoming, États-Unis
    • Société de production
      • Fox Film Corporation
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    • Budget
      • 2 000 000 $US (estimé)
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    • Durée
      2 heures 5 minutes
    • Couleur
      • Black and White

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