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La piste des géants

Titre original : The Big Trail
  • 1930
  • Tous publics
  • 2h 5min
NOTE IMDb
7,2/10
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John Wayne and Marguerite Churchill in La piste des géants (1930)
Classical WesternAdventureDramaRomanceWestern

Breck Coleman conduit des centaines de colons en chariots couverts depuis le fleuve Mississippi vers leur destin dans l'Ouest.Breck Coleman conduit des centaines de colons en chariots couverts depuis le fleuve Mississippi vers leur destin dans l'Ouest.Breck Coleman conduit des centaines de colons en chariots couverts depuis le fleuve Mississippi vers leur destin dans l'Ouest.

  • Réalisation
    • Raoul Walsh
    • Louis R. Loeffler
  • Scénario
    • Hal G. Evarts
    • Marie Boyle
    • Jack Peabody
  • Casting principal
    • John Wayne
    • Marguerite Churchill
    • El Brendel
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • NOTE IMDb
    7,2/10
    4,9 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Raoul Walsh
      • Louis R. Loeffler
    • Scénario
      • Hal G. Evarts
      • Marie Boyle
      • Jack Peabody
    • Casting principal
      • John Wayne
      • Marguerite Churchill
      • El Brendel
    • 89avis d'utilisateurs
    • 37avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 5 victoires au total

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    John Wayne
    John Wayne
    • Breck Coleman
    Marguerite Churchill
    Marguerite Churchill
    • Ruth Cameron
    El Brendel
    El Brendel
    • Gus
    Tully Marshall
    Tully Marshall
    • Zeke
    Tyrone Power Sr.
    Tyrone Power Sr.
    • Red Flack
    • (as Tyrone Power)
    David Rollins
    David Rollins
    • Dave Cameron
    Frederick Burton
    Frederick Burton
    • Pa Bascom
    Ian Keith
    Ian Keith
    • Bill Thorpe
    Charles Stevens
    Charles Stevens
    • Lopez
    Louise Carver
    Louise Carver
    • Gus's Mother-in-Law
    Victor Adamson
    Victor Adamson
    • Wagon Train Man
    • (non crédité)
    Phyllis Bainbridge
    • Pioneer
    • (non crédité)
    Chief John Big Tree
    Chief John Big Tree
    • Indian
    • (non crédité)
    Ward Bond
    Ward Bond
    • Sid Bascom
    • (non crédité)
    Nora Bush
    • Pioneer
    • (non crédité)
    Martin Cichy
    Martin Cichy
    • Pioneer
    • (non crédité)
    Don Coleman
    Don Coleman
    • Wrangler
    • (non crédité)
    Nancy Crowley
    • Pioneer Child
    • (non crédité)
    • Directors
      • Raoul Walsh
      • Louis R. Loeffler
    • Scénario
      • Hal G. Evarts
      • Marie Boyle
      • Jack Peabody
    • Toute la distribution et toute l’équipe technique
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    8planktonrules

    For 1930, this was a dandy Western

    My giving this film a score of 8 is relative to other feature-length films from 1930. By the standards of films made just a few years later, this film might receive a score of only 6 or 7--mostly because the sound quality was so poor. Now it is possible that the film sounded better and the Fox Movie Channel did show a degraded print (it DID have a lot of lines and scratches), but I assume the sound problem was always an issue. That's because sound in movies was still a novelty in 1930 and many of the Hollywood talking pictures of 1930 sounded terrible--with background characters often drowning out the leads, characters huddled together to make sure they are picked up by the microphones or inconsistent quality (such as what was seen in THE BISHOP MURDER CASE, HELL'S ANGELS and other films of the day). This was all made much worse in THE BIG TRAIL because most of the film was shot outside--something unheard of at the time. Quite an innovation but also something that really stretched the talents of the sound technicians! So, while the film was very hard to listen to, I realize that they had to start somewhere, so I can forgive this--especially since the outdoor scenes are breathtaking--a major innovation for 1930.

    The plot is rather similar to CIMARRON--a Western that came out the following year and which captured the Oscar for Best Picture. Unfortunately, CIMARRON isn't all that great a film and I actually like THE BIG TRAIL more due to the scope of the film. While some might balk at THE BIG TRAIL's slow-moving pace, I saw it as a great history lesson about the hardships endured by those traveling West on wagon trains. Plus, the whole thing just looked so beautiful, as director Raoul Walsh went to significant trouble to film on location and THE BIG TRAIL looks almost like a film version of some Ansel Adams prints.

    As for the acting, it was pretty good. This was a major break for young John Wayne--as his previous screen appearances were, at best, minor and unremarkable. Here, he was given the lead and did a dandy job--though he was obviously young and a little less "John Wayne-ish" than he was in later films, as his screen persona was not yet firmly established. Another interesting part was played by Tyrone Power II (Tyrone Power's father). He looked nothing like his extremely handsome son and looked and sounded almost exactly like Bluto from the Popeye cartoons! He made very few sound films--dying just a year after making this film--so it's a rare opportunity to see and hear this once famous actor.

    Overall, the film is well worth seeing despite some sound problems and a few overly long scenes here and there. For 1930, it was a remarkable achievement--more so than the much more famous and award-winning CIMARRON made the following year. Much of the reason THE BIG TRAIL didn't win an Oscar most likely was because ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT came out the same year and it is truly one of the great films.
    Kelly-17

    Good wagons, wagon circling, and gun smoke. Corny but good historical props.

    This movie is impressive for the type of physical props used. The wagons were real Conestoga, not the cut-down replicas seen in later movies. The circling of the wagons to fend off an attack by the locals was done with realism -- wagons overlapped with draft animals placed inside the ring -- resulting in what seems like hundreds milling about in the center. And when the shooting starts the wagons virtually disappear in the smoke. Very good representation of 'real life' (I shoot muzzle loading rifles so I know about the smoke part of it). Too bad I can't find this one on laserdisc for my library...
    10Ron Oliver

    An Epic, Trailblazing Western

    A heroic young trail scout leads a large party of pioneers along THE BIG TRAIL to the West, with Indian attacks, natural disasters & romantic complications all part of the adventure.

    As sweeping & magnificent as its story, Raoul Walsh's THE BIG TRAIL is a wonderful film, as entertaining as it was more than seven decades ago. With very good acting and excellent production values, it lives up to its reputation as the talkies' first epic Western.

    John Wayne, pulled from obscurity for his first important movie role, looks impossibly young, but he immediately impresses with the natural charm & masculine authority he brings to the hero's role; he quietly dominates the film with the attributes which would someday make him a huge star. Marguerite Churchill is fetching as a lovely Southern belle who slowly warms to the Duke's attentions. Dialect comic El Brendel is great fun as a Swedish immigrant beset with mule & mother-in-law woes; his appearance in a scene signals laughs for the viewer.

    Looking & sounding like a human grizzly bear, Tyrone Power Sr., vast & repulsive, makes a wonderful villain. Slick cardsharp Ian Keith is a sophisticated bad guy. (His famous physical similarity to John Gilbert is very apparent here.) Silent movie character actor Tully Marshall is impressive as a wily old mountain man who helps guide the wagon train. Corpulent Russ Powell, as a friendly fur trapper, puts his vocal talent for making nonsense noises to good use. Sharp-eyed movie mavens will spot Ward Bond as one of the Missouri settlers.

    What will surprise many modern viewers is that THE BIG TRAIL was filmed in an early wide screen process, called Grandeur. More than living up to its name, the picture looks marvelous, with Walsh showing a mastery of the new technology. He fills the screen, every portion of it, with action. Notice during the crowd scenes, how everyone is busy doing real work, which adds so much to the verisimilitude of these sequences. Walsh deserves great credit for being one of the first directors to use wide screen. In addition, the film is blessedly free of the rear projection photography which blights so many older films. It should also be stressed that it is only natural that the soundtrack sounds a little primitive; talkies were still in their cradle. That Walsh was able to use a microphone at all, with most of the scenes shot out of doors, is more kudos for him.

    THE BIG TRAIL was not a box office success. In 1930, William Haines' comedies were the big money makers and the public was looking for fare other than intelligent Westerns. Most of the cast slipped into obscurity, including Wayne. It would not be until 1939, when John Ford rescued him in STAGECOACH, that John Wayne's legend would begin in earnest. And despite its grand & sweeping vistas, it would be another 25 years before wide screen caught on with Hollywood, largely as an answer to the economic threat from television.
    8AlsExGal

    What if someone made a western 20 years ahead of its time and nobody came?,

    By 1930, Fox had already conquered making sound movies outdoors due to being an early adopter of sound on film versus sound on disc. Next they tried their hand at widescreen films. Known as 70mm Grandeur, Fox shot three films in this process, this film and two musicals - The Fox Movietone Follies of 1929 and Happy Days (1929). The process was successful, the business end of their widescreen process was not. Due to the Great Depression, theaters could not afford to install the equipment necessary to show films in the Grandeur process. It's interesting to note that if sound itself had come into feature films in 1929 rather than 1927, that silent films would probably have been the majority of films made until 1940 for this same reason.

    The Big Trail itself is a wonderfully modern-seeming western compared to other entries of the early sound era. It has an air of authenticity about it, as there is almost a documentary feel of the film in its depiction of harsh life on the Oregon Trail. Finally, there is the reason most people view this film - the birth of John Wayne's cowboy persona, not a cartoon character with either a black or white hat as many actors in the early westerns were, but a character of flesh and blood whose motivations you could understand and empathize with. Also note the presence of Ward Bond in a supporting role who, along with John Wayne, was a staple of the later John Ford westerns.

    Despite its technical beauty and the presence of John Wayne, this film flopped at the box office. John Wayne went back into obscurity and did not emerge again until nine years later in "Stagecoach", where he played a part very similar to the one he plays here.
    10slabihoud

    Unbelievable beautiful!

    I just saw The Big Trail in Vienna's Filmmuseum for the first time. Immediately I was astonished by both the pictures optical high quality and unusual format and by its beautifully detailed story. Who has ever seen such a documentary style western with John Wayne? And there is so much time, you can actually look around on the screen, there is so much to see! One is ever grateful that the scenes are often static, because every single shot is so well composed and you want to take it it. Even the acting is good and fits in well. The long running time of the picture is wonderful, you don't want to miss a minute of it!

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    • Anecdotes
      Incredibly, six different versions of this film were shot simultaneously: (1) a 70mm version in the Grandeur process for exhibition in the biggest movie palaces, (2) a standard 35mm version for general release, (3) a 35mm alternate French-language version La piste des géants (1931)', (4) a 35mm alternate Spanish-language version La gran jornada (1931), (5) a 35mm alternate German-language version Die große Fahrt (1931), and (6) a 35mm alternate Italian-language version Il grande sentiero (1931). The four alternate-language versions were shot with (mostly) different casts.
    • Gaffes
      Based on the 26 star flag (1837-1845), the film takes place in the 1840s. Many of the settlers use Springfield Model 1873 "trapdoor" rifles. This was common in Hollywood because the 1873 was based on the 1861 rifled musket, which closed a continuous line of muskets going back to 1795, so it easily could stand in for a muzzle loading musket to the untrained eye.
    • Citations

      Breck Coleman, Wagon Train Scout: We can't turn back! We're blazing a trail that started in England. Not even the storms of the sea could turn back the first settlers. And they carrie dit on further. They blazed it on through the wilderness of Kentucky. Famine, hunger, not even massacres could stop them. And now we picked up the trail again. And nothing can stop us! Not even the snows of winter, nor the peaks of the highest mountain. We're building a nation and we got to suffer! No great trail was ever built without hardship. And you got to fight! That's right. And when you stop fighting, that's death. What are you going to do, lay down and die? Not in a thousand years! You're going on with me!

    • Crédits fous
      Opening credits prologue: DEDICATED- To the men and women who planted civilization in the wilderness and courage in the blood of their children.

      Gathered from the north, the south, and the east, they assemble on the bank of the Mississippi for the conquest of the west.
    • Versions alternatives
      Filmed in two versions simultaneously: widescreen process Grandeur in 70mm, and in standard 35mm. Some scenes were shot simultaneously in both formats; other scenes were shot twice, once for each format. The two versions are not identical in content - the 70mm version runs 125 minutes, while the 35mm version runs a shorter 108 minutes (but does contain some scenes not found in the longer widescreen version).
    • Connexions
      Alternate-language version of La gran jornada (1931)
    • Bandes originales
      Song of the Big Trail
      (1930) (uncredited)

      Music by James F. Hanley

      Lyrics by Joseph McCarthy

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    • Date de sortie
      • 17 juin 1970 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • La gran jornada
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Jackson Hole, Wyoming, États-Unis
    • Société de production
      • Fox Film Corporation
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      • 2 000 000 $US (estimé)
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