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La rafle

Titre original : Thunderbolt
  • 1929
  • Passed
  • 1h 25min
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6,5/10
1 k
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La rafle (1929)
Film noirCriminalitéDrameMusiqueRomanceThriller

Thunderbolt, big boss de Harlem, apprend que Ritzy veut le quitter pour un employé de banque. Pour s'en débarrasser elle le livre à la police. Même depuis le couloir de la mort de Sing-Sing,... Tout lireThunderbolt, big boss de Harlem, apprend que Ritzy veut le quitter pour un employé de banque. Pour s'en débarrasser elle le livre à la police. Même depuis le couloir de la mort de Sing-Sing, Thunderbolt cherchera à éliminer son rival.Thunderbolt, big boss de Harlem, apprend que Ritzy veut le quitter pour un employé de banque. Pour s'en débarrasser elle le livre à la police. Même depuis le couloir de la mort de Sing-Sing, Thunderbolt cherchera à éliminer son rival.

  • Réalisation
    • Josef von Sternberg
  • Scénario
    • Jules Furthman
    • Charles Furthman
    • Herman J. Mankiewicz
  • Casting principal
    • George Bancroft
    • Fay Wray
    • Richard Arlen
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,5/10
    1 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Josef von Sternberg
    • Scénario
      • Jules Furthman
      • Charles Furthman
      • Herman J. Mankiewicz
    • Casting principal
      • George Bancroft
      • Fay Wray
      • Richard Arlen
    • 16avis d'utilisateurs
    • 27avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Nommé pour 1 Oscar
      • 2 victoires et 1 nomination au total

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    Rôles principaux29

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    George Bancroft
    George Bancroft
    • Thunderbolt
    Fay Wray
    Fay Wray
    • Ritzie
    Richard Arlen
    Richard Arlen
    • Bob Moran
    Eugenie Besserer
    Eugenie Besserer
    • The Mother
    Tully Marshall
    Tully Marshall
    • The Warden
    James Spottswood
    James Spottswood
    • Snapper O'Shea
    Robert Elliott
    Robert Elliott
    • The Chaplain
    Fred Kohler
    Fred Kohler
    • 'Bad Al' Frieberg
    E.H. Calvert
    E.H. Calvert
    • Disttrict Attorney McKay
    George Irving
    George Irving
    • Mr. Corwin
    Mike Donlin
    Mike Donlin
    • Kentucky Sampson - Prisoner #4
    S.S. Stewart
    • Prisoner #7 - Piano Player
    William L. Thorne
    William L. Thorne
    • Police Inspector
    Mosby's Blues Blowers
    • Black Cat Musical Ensemble
    Ernie Adams
    Ernie Adams
    • Thug in Bank at Robbery
    • (non crédité)
    Elmer Ballard
    • Prisoner #8
    • (non crédité)
    Louise Beavers
    Louise Beavers
    • Black Cat Cafe Patron
    • (non crédité)
    Ed Brady
    Ed Brady
    • Chuck - 1st Prisoner #5
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Josef von Sternberg
    • Scénario
      • Jules Furthman
      • Charles Furthman
      • Herman J. Mankiewicz
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    6LeonLouisRicci

    LEADING-EDGE TALKIE...STERNBERG'S STUNNING VISUAL PRESENTATION RESTRAINED

    The High-Light of this "First-Year" of the All-Talkie Hollywood in Renowned Director Sternberg Film is the Harlem Night-Club.

    This Takes Place in the First Half and while the Remainder of this Gangster-Romance is Peppered with a Few Interesting Flourishes,

    None Equate the Impressive Opening and Once the Movie Gets to Prison the Film is Absent Sternberg's Signature Touches.

    In Face the Movie Grinds to a Halt and is just Uninteresting Banter and Prison's Inanimate Existence.

    The Dialog Deliveries are Pause Laden, Rhythmic Readings that are Stiff, Laborious, and so Wearily Dated as to be Painful.

    Fay Wray is Hardly a Presence, Richard Arlen is OK, and George Bancroft (Oscar Nominated) is Domineering but Hardly Special.

    Overall, a Curiosity and Film Historians Should Give it a Look for Context and the Director's Complete Filmography.

    But Casual Movie Fans and Seekers of some "Old-Stuff" are Likely to be Bored to Death and Very Disappointed.
    2lostcinematheq

    The sound ruined the movie

    I understand this was one of the first films to use sound. But the sound quality isn't even the problem. It's the actors. The way they speak in this film sounds incredibly unnatural, like they weren't used to actually having their voices recorded before. The physical acting isn't bad, but I think up until this point the way the dialogue audibly sounded didn't matter because it would be edited with intertitles of dialogue in between. But in this film, the tone of the dialogue was a huge problem.

    Even the music, and the way it was edited between scenes, left a lot to be desired. It sounded like the music from one room stopped abruptly when they would go to another room. Besides the sound, the characters were hard to take seriously. I can't really speak on anything else, because the poor audio truly did ruin any investment I could have in this story, and the film as a whole.

    If I'm being honest, there really isn't much of a point in posting this review besides letting other people know, trust me, if you can't sit through this, you're not alone. It's not because it's too old. There are plenty of great films from the 20s. Watch Chaplin, watch Keaton, watch Metropolis, watch Sunrise, watch The Crowd, watch Lonesome. Watch almost anything else but this one...
    8springfieldrental

    Herman Mankiewicz's Prime Example of his Early Scriptwriting

    During the early days of talkies, dialogue writers were in great demand, and many who made the move to California were involved in the Broadway theater industry. The first regular theater critic for The New Yorker, Herman Mankiewicz, was soon in high demand in Hollywood after synchronized sound was introduced to cinema. A prime example of Mankiewicz's style was his screenplay in the early talkie, June 1929 "Thunderbolt." In 1927 Paramount Pictures hired Mankiewicz to write scenarios for its silent films. The studio asked him to work his connections for New York City writers to compose film scripts when talkies arrived. "Most of the newer writers on Paramount's staff who contributed the most successful stories of the past year (1929) were selected by 'Mank,'" wrote film critic Pauline Kael. Herman was the subject in the Netflix 2020 biopic, "Mank."

    Mankiewicz's famous telegram to Ben Hecht describes how desperate movie studios were to hire good writers. "Millions are to be grabbed out here and your only competition is idiots. Don't let this get around."

    Mankiewicz was the highest-paid writer in Tinseltown. Kael described, "His heroes weren't soft-eyed and bucolic; he brought good-humored toughness to the movies, and energy and astringency. And the public responded, because it was eager for modern American subjects." In "Thunderbolt," adapted from a Charles and Jules Furthman story, Mankiewicz's script focuses on Jim Lang (George Bancroft), nicknamed Thunderbolt, wanted by the police. His girlfriend, 'Ritzy' (Fay Wray), is seeing banker Bob Moran (Richard Arlen) behind Jim's back. Lang is captured and is headed for the chair. In jail, he discovers who Ritzy's boyfriend is and frames Bob in a cop's murder. When arrested and sentenced, Bob finds himself in the jail cell next to Thunderbolt.

    "Thunderbolt" was the type of movie designed for director Josef von Sternberg for his first talkie. The silent movie director of 1927's "Underworld," which introduced the gangster genre, was excited to be making talkies. He said he was "no longer at the mercy of movie house organists."

    Sternberg especially loved to mix music with his actors' dialogue. In a classic nightclub scene, singer actress Theresa Harris, in her film debut, belts out a song while Thunderbolt and Ritzy are in an argument. Between Harris' numbers, the jazz band plays in the background while tension builds between Lang and nearby loud customers. The tense sequence reveals the inner turmoil of Thunderbolt. Film critic Andrew Sarris notes, "'Thunderbolt' is, in some respects, as much a musical as a melodrama." Sternberg was praised overseas for his film, receiving a telegram from German director Ludwig Berger, stating "I saw your film 'Thunderbolt' and congratulate you with all my heart. It is the first fully realized and artistically accomplished sound film. Bravo!" "Thunderbolt" was the second talkie for actor George Bancroft, his first was the now lost 1929 'The Wolf of Wall Street.' The actor earned a Best Actor Academy Award nomination for his role as Thunderbolt.

    The future was bright for Mankiewicz, working alongside his younger brother, Joseph, who wrote the titles in "Thunderbolt." Herman is known by today's movie fans as the first screenwriter for 1939's "The Wizard of Oz," and for his collaboration with Orson Welles in 1941's "Citizen Kane."
    7Bunuel1976

    THUNDERBOLT (Josef von Sternberg, 1929) ***

    Sternberg's first Talkie is virtually a retread of his UNDERWORLD (1927), with the same leading man – George Bancroft – no less. However, while ably flanked by his co-stars there, he is practically the whole show this time around (Fay Wray and Richard Arlen being no match for Evelyn Brent and Clive Brook) and, consequently, the role earned Bancroft his sole Oscar nomination (and the film's as well)! Anyway, the director's approach to Sound was not as experimental as may have been anticipated (resorting to Death Row histrionics and even a number of songs to showcase the format!) and the end result is hardly dazzling in this regard – though the dialogue is surprisingly clean, i.e. audible, for such an early example. Conversely, the visual aspect of the film, usually the director's main concern, is greatly diluted here through the poor quality of the copy I watched which also sported forced German subtitles!

    Bancroft is once again a gangster (as before, his activity remains undisclosed throughout, apart from lording it up in an almost exclusively-black nightclub!) and his moll eventually leaves him for another, younger and handsomer, man. Here, too, the mobster is caught and imprisoned – in a wonderful scene where he shows compassion for a mutt, subsequently proving inseparable, thus preceding Raoul Walsh's HIGH SIERRA by 12 years! Yet, he ingeniously has his associates frame the rival for a murder they committed (the development of this particular plot strand is unfortunately rather muddled) and the hero winds up in the cell opposite Bancroft's. As in UNDERWORLD, Fred Kohler also appears here to antagonize the latter – besides lanky warden Tully Marshall and an Irish guard whose name the protagonist continually tries to guess (with the droll pay-off coming at the film's very conclusion).

    Wray and her mother plead with the gangster to do the right thing and clear Arlen of his crime but, of course, he will have none of that at the start. Again, however, Bancroft is softened and confesses his role in the young man's entrapment just hours before his execution is due; I have to wonder here why he, a first-time felon, is scheduled to die before the much sought-after "Thunderbolt"! – yes, the film's title is a reference to the character's nick-name. In any case, the moll's own admission that she had left her lover for the gangster rather than the other way around makes the latter realize, as was the case in UNDERWORLD, that he is in the way and gladly accepts his fate. Incidentally, speaking of references to the director's earlier work, Wray and Arlen are made to undergo a hasty marriage here – much like Bancroft himself and Betty Compson in THE DOCKS OF NEW YORK (1928)!
    6planktonrules

    A bit old fashioned...but that's what you'd expect from a 1929 film.

    In 1929, talking pictures were still a novelty and some pictures in Hollywood were still coming out silent. So, it's not very surprising that this Josef von Sternberg movie comes off as a bit old fashioned. It's lack of incidental music* makes it seem a bit too quiet...but that was true of all the sound films of the day. Likewise, some of the acting is a bit stilted...and this was not at all unusual for 1929. So, I try to cut this and other movies from 1927-30 a bit of slack.

    The title character, Thunderbolt Jim Lang (George Bancroft), is one of the most-wanted men in the country. He's been responsible for many bank robberies and deaths and the police are desperately searching for him. But their only lead is his old girlfriend, Ritzie (IMDB incorrectly spells it 'Ritzy' and she's played by Fay Wray). But she's sick of him and wants to go straight--and has taken up with a nice guy, Bob (Richard Arlen). But Thunderbolt has promised that if she takes up with ANYONE other than him, he'll get them...and he does this in a most peculiar way...while he's in prison! Huh? How does he do this and how does it all end? See the film and find out for yourself.

    The film has some very good things going for it--particularly the mobster talk throughout the movie. It's all very tough and fun. Bancroft's performance is also quite entertaining (not necessarily GOOD but entertaining). Still, the movie's plot is very tough to believe though it is still entertaining to see today...even with its old fashioned style and bizarre scenes with Thunderbolt inexplicably in his cell with a pet dog!

    *Instead of the usual background music, it's a quiet film--normal for 1929. But in all the death row scenes, there is often some sort of spiritual being sung...and wow were they annoying and overdone!

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      One of the earliest of over 700 Paramount productions, filmed between 1929 and 1949, which were sold to MCA/Universal in 1958 for television distribution, and have been owned and controlled by MCA ever since. However, because of its extreme age, and primitive sound recording techniques, there is no record of it ever having been locally televised. On cable TV it received what may have been its first and only telecast on Turner Classic Movies in August 2016.
    • Citations

      Warden: Listen Doc, you just gotta see that this man lives. Do something. I've got to execute him tonight.

    • Versions alternatives
      Made in both sound and silent versions.
    • Bandes originales
      Thinkin' About My Baby
      (uncredited)

      Written by Sam Coslow

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    • Date de sortie
      • 16 mai 1930 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
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    • Lieux de tournage
      • Paramount Studios - 5555 Melrose Avenue, Hollywood, Los Angeles, Californie, États-Unis(Studio)
    • Société de production
      • Paramount Pictures
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      • 1h 25min(85 min)
    • Couleur
      • Black and White

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