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Désirs

Titre original : Their Own Desire
  • 1929
  • Approved
  • 1h 5min
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5,9/10
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Robert Montgomery and Norma Shearer in Désirs (1929)
DrameRomance

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueLally's father writes books and plays Polo. After 23 years of marriage he wants to divorce his wife and marry Mrs. Chevers. Lally is appalled. But then she falls in love with Jack - until sh... Tout lireLally's father writes books and plays Polo. After 23 years of marriage he wants to divorce his wife and marry Mrs. Chevers. Lally is appalled. But then she falls in love with Jack - until she learns that he is Mrs. Chevers' son.Lally's father writes books and plays Polo. After 23 years of marriage he wants to divorce his wife and marry Mrs. Chevers. Lally is appalled. But then she falls in love with Jack - until she learns that he is Mrs. Chevers' son.

  • Réalisation
    • E. Mason Hopper
  • Scénario
    • Sarita Fuller
    • Frances Marion
    • James Forbes
  • Casting principal
    • Norma Shearer
    • Belle Bennett
    • Lewis Stone
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,9/10
    843
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • E. Mason Hopper
    • Scénario
      • Sarita Fuller
      • Frances Marion
      • James Forbes
    • Casting principal
      • Norma Shearer
      • Belle Bennett
      • Lewis Stone
    • 24avis d'utilisateurs
    • 6avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Nommé pour 1 Oscar
      • 1 nomination au total

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    Rôles principaux14

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    Norma Shearer
    Norma Shearer
    • Lally
    Belle Bennett
    Belle Bennett
    • Harriet
    Lewis Stone
    Lewis Stone
    • Marlett
    Robert Montgomery
    Robert Montgomery
    • Jack
    Helene Millard
    Helene Millard
    • Beth
    Cecil Cunningham
    Cecil Cunningham
    • Aunt Caroline
    Henry Hebert
    Henry Hebert
    • Uncle Nate
    Mary Doran
    Mary Doran
    • Suzanne
    June Nash
    June Nash
    • Mildred
    Joseph E. Bernard
    Joseph E. Bernard
    • Doctor
    • (non crédité)
    Bess Flowers
    Bess Flowers
    • Miriam - Polo Player
    • (non crédité)
    • …
    Isabelle Keith
    Isabelle Keith
    • Isabelle - Polo Player
    • (non crédité)
    • …
    Kane Richmond
    Kane Richmond
    • Man at the Resort
    • (non crédité)
    Oscar Rudolph
    • Man at the Resort
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • E. Mason Hopper
    • Scénario
      • Sarita Fuller
      • Frances Marion
      • James Forbes
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    6acerbica

    culture study, not cinematic art

    I rate this movie highly not because it's all that great but because it's a fascinating piece of movie history. There are no seamless edits - the end of one take often doesn't match up with the beginning of the next. Scriptwise, more is implied than said. In one conversation, Norma Shearer is clearly about to say the word "mistress", but bites her lip and spits out the name of her father's paramour instead. Yet fifteen minutes later she's standing in a slip while brushing her hair, and her nipples are clearly outlined through the fabric. Shocking, I tell you! My favorite scene was the dance sequence, which features a wonderful, haunting piece of music called "Blue Is The Night" by Fred Fisher.

    Overall this movie was interesting as an exercise in contrast and comparison with modern films. There are better films from that era - there were probably better films made that week - but I didn't mind spending 65 minutes with these people. I was duly entertained.
    glgioia

    Fascinating

    Time travel realized. Its so cool to be able to watch something this damn old. Norma Shearer has a really neat look, pretty but unlike todays starletts, she's believably pretty. Distinctive profile, and sorta googly eyed, and a great body. These films were made before the dreaded Hays Codes, so you get some really sexy shots of her. No bras in those days I guess. The movie is dopey, but on the same level as most of todays television, so its bearable. But again, I study more than watch these old ones, and try to get a feel for what it was like to live back then.
    5Neal99

    Shearer good, Bennett ill at ease

    This film is sociologically fascinating but dramatically rather weak. It also would make a good case study for a psychology class, as Norma Shearer's character (Lally) has to deal with others who are variously manipulating, controlling and irresponsible (I won't spoil it by telling you who does what). The sociological fascination comes from the depiction of the idle rich who ride polo ponies, go to Lake Michigan resorts, dress smartly and tolerate `modern' young women like Lally - and from the dynamic between men and women. The dialogue seems unusually terse by 1929 standards - much is left unsaid, and the film is better because of it. Shearer is quite good; she carries the film with apparent ease. Unfortunately, Belle Bennett is clearly ill at ease with sound. She was quite popular and acclaimed for her silent work, especially Stella Dallas, but here she brings little life to her role.
    7AlsExGal

    Love and evasion of risk are incompatible it seems

    Today, most women initiate divorces. But there was a time when it was the other way around since women had few options outside of the home. If you were a woman, you'd just better hope that as the bloom fell off of your rose that your husband did not get the 7, 17, or 27 year itch. This is about the impact of one of those marriages with an itchy husband, an unlikely cad, Lewis Stone as Marlett.

    I like how this movie takes the time to build up the characters, always a trademark of screenwriter Frances Marion. A great deal of time is spent in the beginning to show the respect and friendship wealthy author Marlett has with his only child, Lally (Norma Shearer). Then a tell - she asks her dad as they walk up the drive, what book he is working on. He says it is a romance involving a 45 year old man. She, about 20, laughs at the idea. Marlett says that the middle aged are made of flesh and bone too. That life is not over at 30 as youngsters think, and that they thirst for romance, that "last" romance, indicating that dad might be thirsty. When they get to the top of the drive, the slender and glamorous Mrs. Chevers is talking to Lally's mom about her son, Doug, who is away at Princeton. Lally's mom is graying, a bit overweight, a bit sedentary, and Marlett calls her affectionately "mama". Indicating that he thinks of her as first Lally's mom - and a good one - and then a wife.

    A year passes and Marlett and his wife are planning to divorce, as is Mrs. Chevers from her husband, but Lally yet knows none of this. She walks into her dad's study and catches Mrs. Chevers and her father in a passionate embrace, talking of marriage. Then her dad tries to justify it. He says that he and her mother are not the same boy and girl who made all of those promises 23 years before. I like Lally's translations - that perhaps he sees her mom as fat and a bit boring "unlike the slick Mrs. Chevers". He says he intends to keep the house. She reminds him that doesn't matter to her since her mom is being bundled out of that house and Mrs. Cheever is being brought in to replace her. Lally says her final goodbye to him and plans to never marry because she will not be made a fool of as her mother has been, and the male sex has fallen mightily in her esteem because of her father's fall, which he won't even acknowledge as a misdeed.

    So off go mother and daughter for a summer vacation before mom goes to France for a divorce, which was the custom in that day. When Lally reiterates her vow to never marry, her mom is happy, which seems odd. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Marlett is not succeeding at hanging out at his old haunts with his new mistress. They both get the cold shoulder from everyone. I'm not sure why this scene was in here other than to show that people did pass moral judgment on affairs and homewreckers at that time, and that a smooth transition did not await them both if they proceed.

    On vacation, Lally meets a guy (Robert Montgomery) who really fancies her. They dance, they enjoy each other's company, and maybe Lally is softening on men just a bit until she discovers his full name - Jack "Doug" Chevers - son of the woman who has ousted her mother, a symbol of why she decided to not take men seriously in the first place.

    So Lally is one confused girl. She has a mom who encourages her to play the field due to her own bad experience with marriage. She has a dad who thinks "until death do we part" is just a phrase people like to kick around at weddings, and she has a beau who is insisting on marriage now - as in right this minute. How will this all work out? Watch and find out.

    This is very good writing by Frances Marion who had already had a couple of short lived marriages that did not work out and one that did that ended in her husband's sudden death just the year before. Thus she could approach this subject of love from the viewpoint of someone who had seen all of the angles. I'd highly recommend it.
    71930s_Time_Machine

    Still fabulously entertaining

    You know that old 'truth' that films made in 1929 were terrible, that nobody could act and speak at the same time, that they were stagey static bores? Well this proves all that wrong.

    Veteran silent movie maker, Mason Hopper clearly hadn't read the memo that making talkies were difficult. He didn't know that the coming of sound meant just to position the camera in the corner of a set and tell the actors to speak very slowly as though they were doing a play in an old people's home. Considering when this was made, it's exceptionally good. The acting is natural with lively dialogue making what you're watching seem real and authentic, almost modern. But what this does have in abundance is a story, and attitudes gloriously drenched in late twenties atmosphere.

    About half the picture is filmed outdoors; in the streets, in parks, in cars, in boats, you couldn't find a less stagey film than this beautifully made melodrama. The direction is uncharacteristically fluid for an early talkie - it could have been made years later. Norma Shearer is completely natural and instantly endearing. Whilst not having dazzling looks, as in most of her films, she again manages to exude more sensuous sexuality than seems possible for one person to exude. Robert Montgomery, in his first leading role seems like he's been a star for years and is equally as likeable. Lewis Stone is Lewis Stone and in this is Shearer's father with a peculiar penchant for middle aged ladies who can't act (no, not everyone is brilliant in this!)

    For a soppy, if rather racy melodrama to hook cynical old me like this did can only be because it's such a well made, well written story. It's not what you'd expect from such an old film.

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    • Anecdotes
      Belle Bennett, who portrays Norma Shearer's mother, was only 11 years older than Norma.
    • Gaffes
      Tire tracks of the camera vehicle on the turf of the polo field at the beginning of the picture.
    • Citations

      Lucia 'Lally' Marlett: Say, that strong arm stuff may slay your other lady friends; but, it doesn't hit with me.

    • Versions alternatives
      Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer also released this movie in a silent version.
    • Connexions
      Referenced in Without Lying Down: Frances Marion and the Power of Women in Hollywood (2000)
    • Bandes originales
      Blue Is the Night
      (1929) (uncredited)

      Music and Lyrics by Fred Fisher

      Sung by Chester Gaylord at the resort dance

      Played as background music often

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    • Date de sortie
      • 5 décembre 1930 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Their Own Desire
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Norco, Californie, États-Unis(Pool scenes at the Norconian Resort Supreme)
    • Société de production
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
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