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Deux femmes

Titre original : Pilgrimage
  • 1933
  • Approved
  • 1h 36min
NOTE IMDb
7,2/10
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Heather Angel and Norman Foster in Deux femmes (1933)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA possessive mother pushes her son into World War I service rather than see him get married.A possessive mother pushes her son into World War I service rather than see him get married.A possessive mother pushes her son into World War I service rather than see him get married.

  • Réalisation
    • John Ford
  • Scénario
    • Barry Conners
    • Henry Johnson
    • Philip Klein
  • Casting principal
    • Henrietta Crosman
    • Heather Angel
    • Norman Foster
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  • NOTE IMDb
    7,2/10
    892
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • John Ford
    • Scénario
      • Barry Conners
      • Henry Johnson
      • Philip Klein
    • Casting principal
      • Henrietta Crosman
      • Heather Angel
      • Norman Foster
    • 16avis d'utilisateurs
    • 12avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Rôles principaux44

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    Henrietta Crosman
    Henrietta Crosman
    • Mrs. Hannah Jessop
    Heather Angel
    Heather Angel
    • Suzanne
    Norman Foster
    Norman Foster
    • Jim 'Jimmy' Jessop
    Lucille La Verne
    Lucille La Verne
    • Mrs. Kelly Hatfield
    Maurice Murphy
    Maurice Murphy
    • Gary Worth
    Marian Nixon
    Marian Nixon
    • Mary Saunders
    Jay Ward
    • Jimmy Saunders
    Robert Warwick
    Robert Warwick
    • Maj. Albertson
    Louise Carter
    Louise Carter
    • Mrs. Rogers
    Betty Blythe
    Betty Blythe
    • Janet Prescot
    Francis Ford
    Francis Ford
    • Mayor Elmer Briggs
    Charley Grapewin
    Charley Grapewin
    • Dad Saunders
    Hedda Hopper
    Hedda Hopper
    • Mrs. Worth
    Frances Rich
    • The Nurse
    Mary Bracken
    • Girl
    • (non crédité)
    Ann Brody
    Ann Brody
    • Woman with Mrs. Goldstein
    • (non crédité)
    William Burress
    William Burress
    • Mr. Goldstein
    • (non crédité)
    André Cheron
    • Shooting Gallery Proprietor
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • John Ford
    • Scénario
      • Barry Conners
      • Henry Johnson
      • Philip Klein
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    9akoaytao1234

    All about their Mother

    One of the biggest surprise I had watching a film, a precode Melodrama about a mother and her burdens after she left his son onto a war that ultimately killed him and left his unwed pregnant bride alone. Now few years forward, she heads on for a pilgrimage together with other mothers of dead soldier to find peace and solace in their final resting place.

    There something entirely modern watching this film. The stilted attitude shown as is, and is actually looked down. A plight that shows much headspace that lefts its viewer to see how the gears was turning AND a moving change of heart. The story is just more complicated and nuance than a lot of the films that would be made afterwards.

    Again, a precode film that defies its age. Pilgrimage is often forgotten in the works of Ford as it is not a Western nor does it include big stars that would be common place in his peak era. But it works. With the central performance of Henrietta Crosman and the other mothers in the film, they do heavy lifting in creating a wounded view of different mothers as they try to make sense of their great loss in the war.

    Overall, a delightful find. Wonderful all around.
    9dbdumonteil

    Some mother's son

    "Pilgrimage" is a phenomenon.First of all ,the subject is not,as the audience is expecting at the beginning of the movie,the story of two lovers but it focuses on the boy's mother ,Mrs Jessop,wonderfully portrayed by Henrietta Crosman.It's very rare that the star of a movie is a middle age woman ,particularly in a John Ford work,even if women often play a prominent part in his films (his last effort was "seven women") Mrs Jessop is a hateful over possessive selfish mom:"I'd rather see my boy dead than with that woman";her hatred knows no bounds when she enlists her son in the army (WW1 time) "whereas other mothers try to hide their son's age".

    John Ford wanted the viewer to side with his pitiful heroine only in the last part .His film is never melodramatic because the tragic scenes alternate with prosaic ones (the shooting range in France is telling).And I dare you not to cry when the mom lays withered flowers on the grave and when she meets again her grandson .The cemetery scene is in direct contrast to the ceremony under L'Arc De Triomphe Sur La Tombe Du Soldat Inconnu:between the two moments,Mrs Jessop has become a mother.At last.
    7bkoganbing

    Her Guilt Overcomes Her Grief

    The only other time that I recall John Ford doing a film where women are the protagonists is his last film of Seven Women. Pilgrimage which is set in pastoral rural America is far more a film that could be typical of John Ford even if the men aren't at the center.

    Before Darryl Zanuck took over Fox films and merged it with 20th Century Pictures to form what it is today, Fox Films was known as the red state studio. In the early sound era, it's major stars were Will Rogers and Janet Gaynor and a rustic film like Pilgrimage was very typical product for Fox even if Rogers and Gaynor don't appear.

    Veteran stage actress Henrietta Crosman stars in Pilgrimage, a rather hard bitten farm woman who lives only for her son Norman Foster. She thinks Foster is slumming when he courts Marian Nixon although God only knows why, Nixon and father Charley Grapewin aren't living any better than Crosman and Foster are. Still she does what she can to break them which includes going to the local draft board and saying she doesn't need an exemption for her son. Foster is off to France where he's killed in the Argonne, but he leaves behind an unmarried and pregnant Nixon who has Crosman's grandchild.

    If such a story were to happen today Crosman would be in some kind of group grief counseling. Her guilt overcomes her grief however and she becomes harder and meaner than ever. It's only when she goes to France on a Pilgrimage with other Gold Star mothers that she's finally able to come to terms with her loss. And something else happens over there that speeds up the healing process.

    Three other women should also be recognized, Heather Angel as a young woman whom Crosman befriends in France along with Maurice Murphy, future gossip columnist Hedda Hopper who is Murphy's society mother and Crosman's fellow rural rustic Lucille LaVerne who scandalizes all of the ship by smoking her corncob pipe.

    I'm surprised that Janet Gaynor wasn't in this film, it was definitely her kind of material. She could have either played Nixon or Angel's part though the role would have had to have been built up.

    The cinematography shows an idealized rural America almost like a moving landscape painting that John Ford always so painstakingly worked on to get that rural paradise effect.

    Although dated somewhat in technique, Pilgrimage is a universal story and actually could be done for more modern wars like Vietnam or the two actions in Iraq. And Ford does a lot better with this women's picture than he did with Seven Women.
    41930s_Time_Machine

    Ask him if he ever had a mother

    It's one of those clingy, possessive mother stories which were popular back then. Watching this, all I could think about was which Laurel and Hardy picture that line came from. It was actually THE FIXER UPPERS and I wish I'd watched that instead of this mushy vat of treacle.

    Henrietta Crosman plays a kind of female Scrooge but she's just so horrible and humourless that no amount of seeing the light can redeem her to the viewer. That's the problem with this film - it's acted well, it's directed well but the lead character is just so unpleasant you can't empathise with her. You wish that she'd gone off to the Great War and got blown up instead.

    What's difficult for us twenty first century cynics to grasp is that sentimentality, especially concerning the love between a mother and her son was different back then. It wasn't something to be sneered at, it was completely normal for it to be more explicit than it is now. You only have to think of Al Jolson singing to his mammy with tears in his eyes in THE JAZZ SINGER to appreciate that the mother-son thing was a lot stronger then.

    In the context of history this has merit. As a motion picture, it's a good example highlighting John Ford's skill. The first half is typical pre-code stuff - you think you're in for a treat but its second half plummets downhill as it focuses on the growing remorse of Mrs Jessop. Her character just isn't likeable enough to command your sympathy and since it's obvious what's going to happen the ultimate viewing experience, especially after such a promising first half is disappointment.
    MichaelM-3

    Surprisingly good, moving film that ought to be seen more often

    "Pilgrimage" works at several levels.

    It is "a woman's film" in that it is very emotional.

    It presents a cast of superb actors, generally unknown to modern audiences, with the exception of Heather Angel, whose role is actually small despite her second billing.

    It is a surprise, too, because its director was John Ford, much better known for such action pictures as "The Searchers" and "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon," or such dark melodramas as "The Informer."

    There is a remarkably talented child actor who grew up to become the daddy of Rocky and Bullwinkle, Jay Ward.

    Marian Nixon, billed down the list, but with a strong and important role, is not only beautiful, but poignant and touching. She deserves to be considered in the pantheon of great actresses who didn't quite make the top ranks.

    Perhaps because of the lack of major names, perhaps because of the time frame of the action, perhaps because of the weepiness of the plot (which I do not say in a pejorative sense), "Pilgrimage" is almost unknown today, but I consider it quite good, definitely worth seeing again.

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      The film had its world premiere showing at the Gaiety Theatre on Broadway on 12 July 1933. (New York Sun, 12 July 1933)
    • Connexions
      Featured in Becoming John Ford (2007)
    • Bandes originales
      Dear Little Boy of Mine
      (uncredited)

      Music by Ernest Ball

      Lyrics by J. Keirn Brennan

      Played as background music

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    • Date de sortie
      • 18 août 1933 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Français
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
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    • Société de production
      • Fox Film Corporation
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      1 heure 36 minutes
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      • Black and White
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.37 : 1

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