Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
- 2022
- Tous publics
- 2h 41min
Une suite qui continuera d'explorer le monde sans pareil de Wakanda et tous les personnages riches et variés présentés dans le film 2018.Une suite qui continuera d'explorer le monde sans pareil de Wakanda et tous les personnages riches et variés présentés dans le film 2018.Une suite qui continuera d'explorer le monde sans pareil de Wakanda et tous les personnages riches et variés présentés dans le film 2018.
- Réalisation
- Scénario
- Casting principal
- Récompensé par 1 Oscar
- 50 victoires et 171 nominations au total
Tenoch Huerta
- Namor
- (as Tenoch Huerta Mejía)
Danny Sapani
- Border Tribe Elder
- (as Daniel Sapani)
Résumé
Reviewers say 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever' is an emotional tribute to Chadwick Boseman, delving into grief and legacy. It is lauded for its powerful performances by Letitia Wright and Angela Bassett, and impressive visuals. Criticisms include its long runtime, lack of focus, and underdeveloped characters. Some feel it struggles with identity and mixed reactions to new characters like Namor. Overall, it is seen as a heartfelt continuation of the 'Black Panther' legacy.
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Enough has been said by other reviewers about the film's overall weaknesses - it's overlong, meandering and drags in many places. Instead, I want to focus on a question no one else seems to be asking: what is up with these Wakandans?
I was a definite fan of the first movie, but as the sequel progressed, I found myself more and more annoyed (and irritated) by the film's semi-religious Wakandaphilia. Frankly, the constant self-adulation and smug sense of exceptionalism displayed by every Wakandan character really started to grate. After a while, what I'm sure the film-makers see as a message of empowerment starts to sound a lot like fascistic aggrandizement. If this degree of messianic self-love were displayed by characters in any other (real) country, it would be dismissed as overblown nationalism.
Let's not forget, as the film itself points out, Wakanda is a superpower - possibly the most powerful nation on earth, thanks to its stocks of 'vibranium' - so it's difficult to swallow the idea that they are also somehow persecuted victims. Add to this the fact that they jealously try to preserve their monopoly of this most valuable resource, and its associated technology, and its hard not to see Wakanda as just another arrogant and self-interested power.
Indeed, after a while, my sympathies shifted much more to the rival Talocans, who with some justification came to see Wakanda as more of a threat than an ally. Maybe the next movie could be called Talocan Forever, and show their side of the story instead.
I was a definite fan of the first movie, but as the sequel progressed, I found myself more and more annoyed (and irritated) by the film's semi-religious Wakandaphilia. Frankly, the constant self-adulation and smug sense of exceptionalism displayed by every Wakandan character really started to grate. After a while, what I'm sure the film-makers see as a message of empowerment starts to sound a lot like fascistic aggrandizement. If this degree of messianic self-love were displayed by characters in any other (real) country, it would be dismissed as overblown nationalism.
Let's not forget, as the film itself points out, Wakanda is a superpower - possibly the most powerful nation on earth, thanks to its stocks of 'vibranium' - so it's difficult to swallow the idea that they are also somehow persecuted victims. Add to this the fact that they jealously try to preserve their monopoly of this most valuable resource, and its associated technology, and its hard not to see Wakanda as just another arrogant and self-interested power.
Indeed, after a while, my sympathies shifted much more to the rival Talocans, who with some justification came to see Wakanda as more of a threat than an ally. Maybe the next movie could be called Talocan Forever, and show their side of the story instead.
The only reason this is scoring a five from me is because of the good CGI, magnificent costumes and wonderful scene shots. Sadly none of that could save this terrible story which the director made it look like he was clueless as what to do with it. Not his fault really as it was woefully lacking in worth, tension, excitement, interest or quality in any way. My personal thoughts as I sat watching it (fighting hard with myself not to just switch it off) was that if they had no creative outstanding story for a sequel then Hollywood should have stopped just trying to cash in on what they thought would be a successful film franchise; whereas instead they made one of the most disappointing rubbish sequels of a film.
They spoilt the memory of a great Black Panther and this will most likely do so bad at the box office that there may not be a third film being made in the future. Its the typical cash in if you can, from people involved in the putting together of the fans heroes, from directors and studios who don't give a toss about the Marvel/DC heroes and heroines; they are there too see if they can amass better wages and high end film contracts.
In straight forward simplistic words, "This was a bloody disgrace and only did damage to a superhero that has never had enough exposure!
They spoilt the memory of a great Black Panther and this will most likely do so bad at the box office that there may not be a third film being made in the future. Its the typical cash in if you can, from people involved in the putting together of the fans heroes, from directors and studios who don't give a toss about the Marvel/DC heroes and heroines; they are there too see if they can amass better wages and high end film contracts.
In straight forward simplistic words, "This was a bloody disgrace and only did damage to a superhero that has never had enough exposure!
*Black Panther: Wakanda Forever* is a somber and underwhelming follow-up to the groundbreaking original. While it attempts to honor the legacy of Chadwick Boseman, the film struggles to find its own identity.
The introduction of Namor and the underwater kingdom of Talokan is a missed opportunity. The character lacks the depth and complexity of the original film's villains. His motivations are inconsistent, and his actions often defy logic. The conflict between Wakanda and Talokan feels forced and lacks the emotional resonance of the first film.
The film's focus on grief and loss, while understandable, is overly drawn out. The constant reminders of T'Challa's absence become repetitive and hinder the narrative's progression. Shuri's transformation into the new Black Panther feels rushed and unearned, lacking the character development necessary to support such a significant role.
The film's exploration of Wakanda's vulnerability is a promising concept, but it is ultimately undermined by a predictable plot and underdeveloped characters. The third act descends into a generic superhero battle, devoid of the cultural richness and thematic depth of the first film.
*Black Panther: Wakanda Forever* is a disappointing sequel that fails to live up to the high standards set by its predecessor. While it pays tribute to Chadwick Boseman, it ultimately falls short of honoring his legacy.
The introduction of Namor and the underwater kingdom of Talokan is a missed opportunity. The character lacks the depth and complexity of the original film's villains. His motivations are inconsistent, and his actions often defy logic. The conflict between Wakanda and Talokan feels forced and lacks the emotional resonance of the first film.
The film's focus on grief and loss, while understandable, is overly drawn out. The constant reminders of T'Challa's absence become repetitive and hinder the narrative's progression. Shuri's transformation into the new Black Panther feels rushed and unearned, lacking the character development necessary to support such a significant role.
The film's exploration of Wakanda's vulnerability is a promising concept, but it is ultimately undermined by a predictable plot and underdeveloped characters. The third act descends into a generic superhero battle, devoid of the cultural richness and thematic depth of the first film.
*Black Panther: Wakanda Forever* is a disappointing sequel that fails to live up to the high standards set by its predecessor. While it pays tribute to Chadwick Boseman, it ultimately falls short of honoring his legacy.
Sorry, but this was boring. Mind-numbing boring. Sleep-inducing boring. "Are we there,yet?"-boring.
Dang, I liked Mr. Bozeman and they pay some propper respect to his character in the first couple of minutes and it really hits you in the feels but after that we are let known that Wakanda have mastered the technology of exposition dialogue. If that is their main achievement then I say we forget vibranium and let them slink back behind their stealth shield and call it a day.
They could have done so much with this movie and show Africa as a vibrant place full of ideas and hope in the face of many problems. Maybe explore Ubuntu philosophy, or visual art. Unfortunately, Wakandan culture is reduced to a song&dance number for the day-trip tourists in cinema seats.
This was a missed opportunity and almost a missed movie if not for a good double espresso I had before it.
Dang, I liked Mr. Bozeman and they pay some propper respect to his character in the first couple of minutes and it really hits you in the feels but after that we are let known that Wakanda have mastered the technology of exposition dialogue. If that is their main achievement then I say we forget vibranium and let them slink back behind their stealth shield and call it a day.
They could have done so much with this movie and show Africa as a vibrant place full of ideas and hope in the face of many problems. Maybe explore Ubuntu philosophy, or visual art. Unfortunately, Wakandan culture is reduced to a song&dance number for the day-trip tourists in cinema seats.
This was a missed opportunity and almost a missed movie if not for a good double espresso I had before it.
This film had some great stuff in it, there's no doubt of that, but I felt it was overall weak. I can't imagine how hard it was for everyone in the film to come back without a lead, and most importantly, their friend. Chadwick's passing is unbelievably sad but it did leave a gap for Marcel to fill, and they could have done it so well. But they didn't.
Firstly, the good. All the emotional scenes were well-scripted and well-acted, and I have to commend Angela Bassett and Letita Wright for their fantastic acting. I never cry in the cinema but this film really had me going because it felt from the heart in some scenes, and I am sure it was.
I also enjoyed the costumes - wow were they beautiful. The only one I didn't like was the Midnight Angels (or whatever they were called). They didn't feel like they fit. Some of the fighting was great as per.
The rest of the film felt slow, boring almost. I've just come from the cinema and I am struggling to remember much of it.
The story was gaping with holes and so much was skipped over with little explanation. The beginning when T'Challa dies felt cold and rushed. That should have been the pivotal moment for the story, but it was brushed over. However, maybe it was too hard for the cast and crew to linger on.
The Talokan/Atlantis story was odd to me and felt so disconnected from Wakanda. I didn't enjoy that storyline. They could have made it so much better.
Anyway, it was enjoyable and I'll maybe watch it again. But I won't rush to do that.
Firstly, the good. All the emotional scenes were well-scripted and well-acted, and I have to commend Angela Bassett and Letita Wright for their fantastic acting. I never cry in the cinema but this film really had me going because it felt from the heart in some scenes, and I am sure it was.
I also enjoyed the costumes - wow were they beautiful. The only one I didn't like was the Midnight Angels (or whatever they were called). They didn't feel like they fit. Some of the fighting was great as per.
The rest of the film felt slow, boring almost. I've just come from the cinema and I am struggling to remember much of it.
The story was gaping with holes and so much was skipped over with little explanation. The beginning when T'Challa dies felt cold and rushed. That should have been the pivotal moment for the story, but it was brushed over. However, maybe it was too hard for the cast and crew to linger on.
The Talokan/Atlantis story was odd to me and felt so disconnected from Wakanda. I didn't enjoy that storyline. They could have made it so much better.
Anyway, it was enjoyable and I'll maybe watch it again. But I won't rush to do that.
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- AnecdotesTenoch Huerta, who plays the ruler of an underwater kingdom, didn't know how to swim. When Ryan Coogler offered him the role and asked about his swimming skills, Huerta simply replied, "I've never drowned before." He took swimming lessons afterwards in preparation for the role.
- Gaffes(at around 12 mins) Near the beginning of the movie when people are diving down in submersible diving suits, there is a reading called out of "Negative One PSI". Negative pressures do not exist, and pressures less than that at sea level (between zero and one PSI) would only happen if they were going up into higher atmospheres.
- Crédits fousThe Marvel Studios logo animation features quotes/images/clips of T'Challa (Chadwick Boseman) and is shaded purple, the royal color of Wakanda. The animation also has the music muted.
- Bandes originalesFuneral
Written by Baaba Maal, Massamba Diop, and Ludwig Göransson
Produced by Ludwig Göransson
Performed by Baaba Maal
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Détails
- Date de sortie
- Pays d’origine
- Site officiel
- Langues
- Aussi connu sous le nom de
- Pantera Negra: Wakanda por siempre
- Lieux de tournage
- Cambridge, Massachusetts, États-Unis(Massachusetts Institute of Technology)
- Société de production
- Voir plus de crédits d'entreprise sur IMDbPro
Box-office
- Budget
- 250 000 000 $US (estimé)
- Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 453 829 060 $US
- Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 181 339 761 $US
- 13 nov. 2022
- Montant brut mondial
- 859 208 836 $US
- Durée
- 2h 41min(161 min)
- Mixage
- Rapport de forme
- 2.39 : 1
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