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Un jeune soldat néerlandais, déployé en Indonésie pour réprimer les efforts d'indépendance, se trouve déchiré entre le devoir et la conscience lorsqu'il rejoint une équipe d'élite dirigée pa... Tout lireUn jeune soldat néerlandais, déployé en Indonésie pour réprimer les efforts d'indépendance, se trouve déchiré entre le devoir et la conscience lorsqu'il rejoint une équipe d'élite dirigée par un commandant de plus en plus impitoyable.Un jeune soldat néerlandais, déployé en Indonésie pour réprimer les efforts d'indépendance, se trouve déchiré entre le devoir et la conscience lorsqu'il rejoint une équipe d'élite dirigée par un commandant de plus en plus impitoyable.
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- 2 victoires et 9 nominations au total
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Going into this movie fully aware of all the drama surrounding it. My tip is don't go into it expecting historical accuracy. We didn't expect accuracy for apocalypse now or 1917. It's a setting for a war movie. And a anti war piece just like the previously named films
That being said, as far as a war movie its okay. Its mostly the usual story of the innocent fng that seems more pure then his compatriots from day one. His degradation as he gets hit with the horrors of war taken to the conclusion of the story.
The sets are beautiful as it is all shot on location and the kit and gear are all amazing. The actors are mostly good, the Turk being a pretty decent Kurtz rip-off. Mostly i am happy, this is a Dutch film made about a subject most people could learn more about, with great production value and some nice use of lights and camera work. The last act is definitely the weakest, but the beginning. Is pretty decent.
I would say: Watch with managed expectations.
That being said, as far as a war movie its okay. Its mostly the usual story of the innocent fng that seems more pure then his compatriots from day one. His degradation as he gets hit with the horrors of war taken to the conclusion of the story.
The sets are beautiful as it is all shot on location and the kit and gear are all amazing. The actors are mostly good, the Turk being a pretty decent Kurtz rip-off. Mostly i am happy, this is a Dutch film made about a subject most people could learn more about, with great production value and some nice use of lights and camera work. The last act is definitely the weakest, but the beginning. Is pretty decent.
I would say: Watch with managed expectations.
Story from the colonial territory of dutch indonesia post-ww2, and the ''ethnical'' cleansing of terror cells threatening queen Wilhelminas land and people.
Its a utterly shaking story about a desperate dutch soldier ,who due to his fathers collaboration with the nazis, makes living in holland inhumanely impossible, and with no possible opportunities to get a job or make a living due to traitor blood running through his veins. So he joins the dutch forces of the far east, an edition of an army like the french legionaires, where you are noody and nobody cares what youve done to flee from home.
Its a jungle war movie, its pretty graphic and shocking, and the final scene i didnt see coming. Acting are among the superior that you may find in the pay bass, reminds me of some of the norwegian resistance war movies made in the 2 millenium. Its is slow in periods and splashes the surface , but takes some abrupt deep dives into the matter now and then. There are lots of blood and temporal fragmental eruptions due to summary executions en masse.
Productionwise, it shows that the helmsmen do have experience in the silverscreen craftmanship, the locations are shot in a more palmatic environment than holland can offer. So its not a low budget flick you are in for. Good camera lead, very realistic special effects, and as mentioned a great cast.
On the nether end is the lack of a good timeline, cause there are flashback that makes a grumpy old man confused about where and when. Its also drawn abit long on playtime, but summasummarum, you will be taught and you will be entertained, and you will feel, especially if pure blood dutch, the urge to make some revisions to your own domestic and extraterritorial history curicullum, and it may give some peace on mind to all colonial immigrants of the dutch empire, and may explain some social issues connected to terrorist attakcs done on dutch homeground especially in the 1970's.
A good movie, and ill beg for more revelating movies in the future. Dutch and belgian war movies do get good marks in my movie inventory. A recommend.
Its a utterly shaking story about a desperate dutch soldier ,who due to his fathers collaboration with the nazis, makes living in holland inhumanely impossible, and with no possible opportunities to get a job or make a living due to traitor blood running through his veins. So he joins the dutch forces of the far east, an edition of an army like the french legionaires, where you are noody and nobody cares what youve done to flee from home.
Its a jungle war movie, its pretty graphic and shocking, and the final scene i didnt see coming. Acting are among the superior that you may find in the pay bass, reminds me of some of the norwegian resistance war movies made in the 2 millenium. Its is slow in periods and splashes the surface , but takes some abrupt deep dives into the matter now and then. There are lots of blood and temporal fragmental eruptions due to summary executions en masse.
Productionwise, it shows that the helmsmen do have experience in the silverscreen craftmanship, the locations are shot in a more palmatic environment than holland can offer. So its not a low budget flick you are in for. Good camera lead, very realistic special effects, and as mentioned a great cast.
On the nether end is the lack of a good timeline, cause there are flashback that makes a grumpy old man confused about where and when. Its also drawn abit long on playtime, but summasummarum, you will be taught and you will be entertained, and you will feel, especially if pure blood dutch, the urge to make some revisions to your own domestic and extraterritorial history curicullum, and it may give some peace on mind to all colonial immigrants of the dutch empire, and may explain some social issues connected to terrorist attakcs done on dutch homeground especially in the 1970's.
A good movie, and ill beg for more revelating movies in the future. Dutch and belgian war movies do get good marks in my movie inventory. A recommend.
In the Netherlands the movie The East was met with a lot of controversy before it was released on Amazon Prime. The story is about Indonesia's claim for independence from the Netherlands straight after World War 2, when the country was still called the Dutch East Indies. It follows a young Dutch soldier who travels with the army to the East to restore order and to stop the rebellion. Later in the film he discovers that "this was not what he signed for".
This historical event in itself of course was controversial. The Dutch have done terrible things in Indonesia during this time (in the film led by Raymond Westerling aka The Turk), but the rebels, the Indonesian Nationalists, were even more cruel. In fact, my (Indonesian) mother (who was a teenager on Java at the time) told me that the rebels were even more feared than the Dutch. The Nationalists did terrible things to their own people to the point that she and her family were even moved to special camps where former Japanese soldiers (!) protected them.
The first trailer of The East immediately raised a lot of questions.
How would the movie portray the Dutch KNIL soldiers? Were they the bad guys and the rebels the good guys? Would the film even mention that the KNIL-soldiers - like the American Vietnam veterans - were victims too? Would the Rebels be shown as heroes or as foes? And what about the controversial Raymond Westerling? Would he be shown as a hero or a cruel mad man?
Okay, let's first concentrate on The East as a fictional movie.
Man, the film really is the Dutch "Platoon". The East looks stunning (for Dutch standards) and can compete with any American big budget production. The performances are very good too. The way our protagonist, Johan de Vries, not only struggles with the way his mission is developing but also with the things from his past is well done. Intertwined with the scenes in Indonesia are flash forwards from Johan's life back in the Netherlands, struggling to pick up his old life and in the end completely losing it.
At first Johan feels bored by the lack of action in Indonesia. One day he meets the strong captain Westerling and things change. Westerling becomes his hero and he doesn't hesitate to join his Special Troops Corps to destroy the rebellion. But when they travel to South Sulawesi Johan is shocked by Westerling's methods and wants to get out. This results in an unrealistic, but exciting finale.
One of the controversies of The East was about the look of Westerling (the real one didn't have a "Hitler" moustache) and the almost Nazi look of the uniforms of his Special Troops Corps. Comparing the Dutch to Nazis is almost sacrilege, because the (Jewish) people suffered a lot during their regime during WW2. But in this case I understand the filmmaker's decision to do so. Westerling does have a moustache, but to say that it resembles Hitler's that's a far stretch. I think it was done to show the audience that this character is based on a true historical figure, but it doesn't follow his true life. In fact, the ultimate fate of Westerling in this film can't be further from the truth and is completely fictional.
And about the "Nazi" uniforms: well, I don't see them as particular Nazi clothing. They are much darker than the normal ones (which makes no sense in the heat) but I think they were there to show that this was a particular group and to protect the "normal" KNIL soldiers. Most KNIL soldiers were normal boys who had nothing to do with the atrocities that were done. And even the ones that have done bad things: you can understand that it was hard to say no to a charismatic leader like Westerling. Especially under those circumstances it's difficult to distinguish wrong from right.
The fear that the Nationalists would be shown as heroes or victims is also not grounded. There's one scene in the movie that shows their incredible cruelty and that works very well. No, the rebels are not shown as good people. Maybe their cruelty should have been more prominent in the film (like the Dutch ones) but as a filmmaker you have to make choices. In the end it's the story about an innocent and idealistic boy who goes to a (possibly unjust) war and about the impact it has in his remaining life.
Although I am no expert on this era of history I think I can say that The East is an incredible movie. It totally delivers as a fictional film that was made for entertainment. It has great storytelling although I must say that the end was a little bit too much.
From a historical point of view I'm happy that a lot of important things were mentioned. You can understand why former KNIL soldiers had a hard time to even talk about their experiences in Indonesia. The Dutch have done bad things, but the Nationalists were just as bad or even worse. Westerling has done good things, but the methods he used when he was commanding his Special Troops Corps were just plain wrong. In that way he's much like Kurtz in Apocalypse Now: he thinks he's right and maybe started out as a good guy, but in the end he lost his way.
Historically a lot of things may not be correct in The East. But maybe the film will cause a healthy discussion on this subject, or at least way more understanding for the KNIL soldiers who went to the East to fight for their land because they believed in what they were fighting for.
I just hope that viewers realize that The East is a movie and not a documentary. Even the makers don't claim that they show the whole truth, but I think it's a great attempt to do so.
8/10.
This historical event in itself of course was controversial. The Dutch have done terrible things in Indonesia during this time (in the film led by Raymond Westerling aka The Turk), but the rebels, the Indonesian Nationalists, were even more cruel. In fact, my (Indonesian) mother (who was a teenager on Java at the time) told me that the rebels were even more feared than the Dutch. The Nationalists did terrible things to their own people to the point that she and her family were even moved to special camps where former Japanese soldiers (!) protected them.
The first trailer of The East immediately raised a lot of questions.
How would the movie portray the Dutch KNIL soldiers? Were they the bad guys and the rebels the good guys? Would the film even mention that the KNIL-soldiers - like the American Vietnam veterans - were victims too? Would the Rebels be shown as heroes or as foes? And what about the controversial Raymond Westerling? Would he be shown as a hero or a cruel mad man?
Okay, let's first concentrate on The East as a fictional movie.
Man, the film really is the Dutch "Platoon". The East looks stunning (for Dutch standards) and can compete with any American big budget production. The performances are very good too. The way our protagonist, Johan de Vries, not only struggles with the way his mission is developing but also with the things from his past is well done. Intertwined with the scenes in Indonesia are flash forwards from Johan's life back in the Netherlands, struggling to pick up his old life and in the end completely losing it.
At first Johan feels bored by the lack of action in Indonesia. One day he meets the strong captain Westerling and things change. Westerling becomes his hero and he doesn't hesitate to join his Special Troops Corps to destroy the rebellion. But when they travel to South Sulawesi Johan is shocked by Westerling's methods and wants to get out. This results in an unrealistic, but exciting finale.
One of the controversies of The East was about the look of Westerling (the real one didn't have a "Hitler" moustache) and the almost Nazi look of the uniforms of his Special Troops Corps. Comparing the Dutch to Nazis is almost sacrilege, because the (Jewish) people suffered a lot during their regime during WW2. But in this case I understand the filmmaker's decision to do so. Westerling does have a moustache, but to say that it resembles Hitler's that's a far stretch. I think it was done to show the audience that this character is based on a true historical figure, but it doesn't follow his true life. In fact, the ultimate fate of Westerling in this film can't be further from the truth and is completely fictional.
And about the "Nazi" uniforms: well, I don't see them as particular Nazi clothing. They are much darker than the normal ones (which makes no sense in the heat) but I think they were there to show that this was a particular group and to protect the "normal" KNIL soldiers. Most KNIL soldiers were normal boys who had nothing to do with the atrocities that were done. And even the ones that have done bad things: you can understand that it was hard to say no to a charismatic leader like Westerling. Especially under those circumstances it's difficult to distinguish wrong from right.
The fear that the Nationalists would be shown as heroes or victims is also not grounded. There's one scene in the movie that shows their incredible cruelty and that works very well. No, the rebels are not shown as good people. Maybe their cruelty should have been more prominent in the film (like the Dutch ones) but as a filmmaker you have to make choices. In the end it's the story about an innocent and idealistic boy who goes to a (possibly unjust) war and about the impact it has in his remaining life.
Although I am no expert on this era of history I think I can say that The East is an incredible movie. It totally delivers as a fictional film that was made for entertainment. It has great storytelling although I must say that the end was a little bit too much.
From a historical point of view I'm happy that a lot of important things were mentioned. You can understand why former KNIL soldiers had a hard time to even talk about their experiences in Indonesia. The Dutch have done bad things, but the Nationalists were just as bad or even worse. Westerling has done good things, but the methods he used when he was commanding his Special Troops Corps were just plain wrong. In that way he's much like Kurtz in Apocalypse Now: he thinks he's right and maybe started out as a good guy, but in the end he lost his way.
Historically a lot of things may not be correct in The East. But maybe the film will cause a healthy discussion on this subject, or at least way more understanding for the KNIL soldiers who went to the East to fight for their land because they believed in what they were fighting for.
I just hope that viewers realize that The East is a movie and not a documentary. Even the makers don't claim that they show the whole truth, but I think it's a great attempt to do so.
8/10.
Today watched this controversial movie. The story line is good and the movie contains all subjects of a good war movie. That the movie is by some not considered fully accurate is correct. However if I have to give this movie a rating it is definitly one of the best Dutch movies released in recent years and shows what war can do with mans mind.
Based on the stories my father told me is this mostly based on reality. It was an awful time he had for four years. As an MP he followed this man closely and saw the story unfold. It took him 40 years to tell this to me what happened. Thanks Jim and all the actors.
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- AnecdotesThe "Federatie Indische Nederlanders (FIN)" or Federation of Dutch Indonesians filed a lawsuit against the movie. FIN claims the movie is a fictional and overly evil depiction of the Dutch intervention in Indonesia, which was meant to put an end to waves of terror coming from local militia. Dutch veteran organizations were also dismayed by the depiction of Dutch soldiers spouting racial slurs and frequenting prostitutes, Special Forces wearing black "Nazi-like" uniforms (dark green in reality), and Raymond Westerling (Marwan Kenzari) sporting a "Hitleresque" mustache. The FIN asked for a disclaimer at the start of the movie, stating the film is fictional. The producer of the movie did not agree with adding such a statement (apart from the standard disclaimer at the end that parts of the story had been fictionalized for dramatic purposes), and the Dutch court finally decided an additional disclaimer was not necessary. Director Jim Taihuttu defended himself against the allegations, stating that the behavior and language of the soldiers was based on diaries given to him by an actual soldier in the war. He had also showed the movie to several Dutch veterans and army leaders, who all praised the film for its authenticity.
- GaffesThe Dutch called the capital of the Dutch Indies 'Batavia.' No Dutch soldier would call it by its Indonesian name 'Jakarta,' as one does in the movie.
- ConnexionsFeatured in Twee voor twaalf: Épisode datant du 7 octobre 2022 (2022)
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- Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 180 $US
- Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 46 $US
- 15 août 2021
- Montant brut mondial
- 160 187 $US
- Durée2 heures 17 minutes
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- 2.39 : 1
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