« Scènes de la vie conjugale » est la chronique des nombreuses années d'amour et de disputes qui unissent Marianne et Johan à travers le mariage, l'infidélité, le divorce et les partenaires ... Tout lire« Scènes de la vie conjugale » est la chronique des nombreuses années d'amour et de disputes qui unissent Marianne et Johan à travers le mariage, l'infidélité, le divorce et les partenaires ultérieurs.« Scènes de la vie conjugale » est la chronique des nombreuses années d'amour et de disputes qui unissent Marianne et Johan à travers le mariage, l'infidélité, le divorce et les partenaires ultérieurs.
- Réalisation
- Scénario
- Casting principal
- Nomination aux 1 BAFTA Award
- 8 victoires et 5 nominations au total
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I think the lack of rehearsal, and the central roles being played by two Bergman regulars give the performances a freshness and lack of polish that contribute to the truth of the movie. These are two people who change, hesitantly and unwillingly, in the throes of overwhelming emotions. The lack of polish, the enormous emotional shifts with scenes give it a documentary feel, even as the characters talk almost endlessly.
Unlike Bergman's earlier works, which are often theological musings on why G*d doesn't give us more directions, this shows two people trying to make their way in a world where G*d, if he exists, is irrelevant. It's a search for meaning without any hope of objective guide, of people trying to snatch some happiness desperately, in a existential world. It offers no grand messages, no singular route to happiness for all of humanity, just for two individuals.
I liked this enough to probably give the miniseries a watch at some point, probably somewhere off in the reasonably far future though. The "short" version still felt like a full experience, and went by pretty quick considering its length.
Part of what also made this film look challenging was its subject matter and minimalist style. Being about the breakdown of a marriage and shot in a very simple way, I was worried it would get dull or boring to watch, but it kept me engaged throughout.
It's the acting and writing that really make this as good as it is, and the low-key, simple visuals really help ensure the focus is on the performances and the dialogue. I even found myself liking how stark and static the feel of the film was, as it worked well with the subject matter (a few of those quick zooms didn't look great though, but maybe the effect looked less jarring at the time).
Occasionally there was a line of dialogue that felt a little forced, but that could be as a result of the subtitles filling in gaps, due to the shorter runtime of the theatrical version. But overall, the writing is pretty strong, and I like how it focused on personal issues, thoughts, and feelings, specific to the characters, as I've found in the past that some of the broader, more overtly philosophical Bergman dialogue about "life" and "society" in general doesn't always do it for me.
But in the end, this is one of the best Bergman films I've watched so far, and between this and Smiles of a Summer Night last week, I've been really enjoying diving back into his films. I've only ever seen the theatrical version of Fanny and Alexander, but it remains my favourite film of his, so I may watch the extended miniseries version of that next, to continue this successful run of Bergman films.
The film can be interpreted as a sort of "When Harry met Sally" (1989, Rob Reiner) in reverse. In "When Harry met Sally" a man and a woman take a very long time finding out that they are destined for each other. In "Scenes from a marriage" a man (Johan played by Erland Josephson) and a woman (Marianne played by Liv Ullmann) take a very long time finding out that their breaking up and divorce is not the end of their relationship (and maybe not even the end of their love). When we add "Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf" (1966, Mike Nichols) to the equation we can make the following mapping:
"When Harry met Sally" is about the pre marriage phase.
"Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf" is about the marriage phase.
"Scenes from a marriage" is predominantly about the post marriage phase.
From this mapping it can be derived that in essence the naming of "Scenes from a marriage" is less fortunate.
Given the high rating the movie was a bit of a disappointment for me. I have seen better Bergman films, for example "Fanny and Alexander" (1982), also a TV mini series turned into a feature film.
The reason for the disappointment is I think the fact that in the movie the blame for the failure of the marriage is somewhat unilateral put on Johan. It is not a bad guy versus good girl movie, certainly not, but already in the first scene we see a confident Johan boasting at a journalist while Marianne is the modesty itself. Also in later scenes the man (not always Johan) is usually the one acting annoyingly. In the second scene for example Johan and Marianne are dining with a couple that starts quarilling with each other after a couple of drinks. By the way this scene owes a lot to "Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf".
Disappointing for me or not the film has had a lot of influence. Sometimes the influence is on the whole oeuvre of directors such as Woody Allen and Richard Linklater. Sometimes the influence is on specific films about failed marriages such as in "Winter sleep" (2014, Nuri Bilge Ceylan) and "Loveless" (2017, Andrey Zviagintsev).
The film will try to show how their lives unraveled over the years, but strictly from dialogue in rooms, as we never meet the mistress, children, parents, or anyone else. Basically, an essay not a film, on male/female values. Bergman has made much better films.
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- AnecdotesThe film was ruled ineligible for Oscar consideration because the longer mini-series version of it had already been telecast in Sweden.
- Citations
Marianne: Sometimes it grieves me that I've never loved anyone. I don't think I've ever been loved either. That distresses me.
Johan: Now you're being dramatic.
Marianne: Am I?
Johan: I know what I feel. I love you in my selfish way. And I think you love me in your fussy, pestering way. We love each other in an earthly and imperfect way.
- ConnexionsEdited from Scènes de la vie conjugale (1973)
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Détails
- Date de sortie
- Pays d’origine
- Sites officiels
- Langue
- Aussi connu sous le nom de
- Scenes from a Marriage
- Lieux de tournage
- Fårö, Gotlands län, Suède(island)
- Société de production
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Box-office
- Montant brut mondial
- 250 $US
- Durée
- 2h 49min(169 min)
- Couleur
- Rapport de forme
- 1.37 : 1