Les fantômes d'Ismaël
- 2017
- Tous publics
- 1h 54min
NOTE IMDb
5,5/10
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MA NOTE
Carlotta revient après 21 ans. Ismael est occupé, impliqué avec Sylvia et intéressé par son prochain film.Carlotta revient après 21 ans. Ismael est occupé, impliqué avec Sylvia et intéressé par son prochain film.Carlotta revient après 21 ans. Ismael est occupé, impliqué avec Sylvia et intéressé par son prochain film.
- Réalisation
- Scénario
- Casting principal
- Récompenses
- 7 nominations au total
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This film is a stinker. The premise seems interesting enough - a woman disappeared 20 years earlier, the husband and family not sure if she was dead. Other than that, the film goes downhill fast. The plot is boring, and the film jumps around to various sub-plots. The dialog is bad - the characters speak in a way that you shake your head and say "Who speaks like that in real life?" Not sure if it's a translation issue, but this seems to be consistent throughout the movie.
It's basically a movie about the dialog, not so much the weak, unbelievable story.
You really don't care about the characters. To add to the torture, the movie is over 2 hours long, so the suffering is extended. Avoid it like the plague.
The basis for a good film is always a good screenplay. Because the screenplay of 'Les fantômes d'Ismaël' is a mess, the film is a failure. What is undoubtedly meant as an intelligent multi-layered story highlighting the many aspects in the life of a film maker, is in reality an incomprehensible hodgepodge of subplots going nowhere.
Right from the very beginning, the viewer is confused. The first few scenes are not scenes from the film we're watching, but from a film within the film, which is being shot by lead character Ismaël. The main plot item, however, is the return of his wife, who has been missing for 20 years and was presumed dead. This in itself can be fine material for a well-acted drama, exploring the way the husband, his girlfriend and his long lost wife cope with this new situation. With multiple award winning actresses like Charlotte Gainsbourg and Marion Cotillard on hand, this would seem to be the most logical option.
Instead, the viewer is offered a myriad of increasingly complicated side-stories, flash backs and dream-like sequences, culminating in a laughable scene of the tormented film maker shooting his own executive producer by accident. I have no doubt this film tries to make a point, but I'm afraid only the director knows which one. Unless you're a fan of French pseudo-intellectual art-house dramas, this film is to be avoided.
Right from the very beginning, the viewer is confused. The first few scenes are not scenes from the film we're watching, but from a film within the film, which is being shot by lead character Ismaël. The main plot item, however, is the return of his wife, who has been missing for 20 years and was presumed dead. This in itself can be fine material for a well-acted drama, exploring the way the husband, his girlfriend and his long lost wife cope with this new situation. With multiple award winning actresses like Charlotte Gainsbourg and Marion Cotillard on hand, this would seem to be the most logical option.
Instead, the viewer is offered a myriad of increasingly complicated side-stories, flash backs and dream-like sequences, culminating in a laughable scene of the tormented film maker shooting his own executive producer by accident. I have no doubt this film tries to make a point, but I'm afraid only the director knows which one. Unless you're a fan of French pseudo-intellectual art-house dramas, this film is to be avoided.
How is it possible to produce such an empty film. It is devoid of any social, societal, political or economic reality. The acting is pachydermic (Charlotte Gainsbourg has the charisma of a folding chair, László Szabó can't act - it's about time -, Marion Cotillard looks like a meme of herself). The characters are all unsympathetic. That is to say, unpleasant and painful. No empathy is possible. Impressive. An edifying film to show in film schools. It has no hysteresis. It is very strong to use such big strings, neurasthenic voice-over, mawkish music, bloated and pontificating plot.
It is impossible to believe for a fraction of a second in these two female characters who are fighting for the character of Mathieu Amalric who does tons to give the impression that he is an artist (only the impression). Who could at least commit suicide, which would end the diegesis (to be studied for the remake). To be saved, a nude shot of Marion Cotillard. And for what?
It is impossible to believe for a fraction of a second in these two female characters who are fighting for the character of Mathieu Amalric who does tons to give the impression that he is an artist (only the impression). Who could at least commit suicide, which would end the diegesis (to be studied for the remake). To be saved, a nude shot of Marion Cotillard. And for what?
What did I watch? What was it about? It's an incomprehensible, tiring mess, unbearably boring, especially towards the end. I wished I could see any meaning in this crap.
My vote: 1/10.
My vote: 1/10.
I saw this film up in Cambridge, with a sophisticated crowd and more than half the audience walked out.
I am all for narrative complexity, but pretentiousness and complexity for the sake of complexity is artificial and pompous.
I think the only people who like this film are self conscious lowbrow audience that simply assumes its convolution has some meaning that escaped them, or that throwing in disjointed and out of place ad frankly random surreal elements is somehow a good onto itself.
In the end, despite recruitment of solid acting talent, this is just an amazingly bad film.
I am all for narrative complexity, but pretentiousness and complexity for the sake of complexity is artificial and pompous.
I think the only people who like this film are self conscious lowbrow audience that simply assumes its convolution has some meaning that escaped them, or that throwing in disjointed and out of place ad frankly random surreal elements is somehow a good onto itself.
In the end, despite recruitment of solid acting talent, this is just an amazingly bad film.
Le saviez-vous
- AnecdotesThe film contains literal quotes from, among others, Jacques Lacan and the novel 'The Human Stain' by Philip Roth.
- Versions alternativesWas released theatrically simultaneously in a 2h15 long "original cut" corresponding to director Arnaud Desplechin's vision and a shorter version requested by the producers lasting just under two hours, cutting mostly from the Dedalus storyline. The shorter version is the one that premiered at the Cannes Film Festival and played in most French cinemas while one theater in Paris belonging to the production company ran the longer director's cut. Desplechin deemed the shorter version to be "more sentimental" and the longer one "more intellectual". The director's cut is the only version released on home video.
- ConnexionsReferences Sueurs froides (1958)
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Détails
- Date de sortie
- Pays d’origine
- Sites officiels
- Langues
- Aussi connu sous le nom de
- Ismael's Ghosts
- Lieux de tournage
- Noirmoutier-en-l'Île, Île de Noirmoutier, Vendée, France(seaside house, beach, cemetery)
- Sociétés de production
- Voir plus de crédits d'entreprise sur IMDbPro
Box-office
- Budget
- 5 904 998 € (estimé)
- Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 102 510 $US
- Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 19 158 $US
- 25 mars 2018
- Montant brut mondial
- 3 075 562 $US
- Durée
- 1h 54min(114 min)
- Couleur
- Rapport de forme
- 2.35 : 1
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