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La diabolique

Titre original : Zwart water
  • 2010
  • 1h 52m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
5,5/10
1,5 k
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La diabolique (2010)
When nine-year-old Lisa discovers her sinister new friend Karen is a ghost the fate of her family is put at stake. Karen tells her that she is the dead twin sister of Lisa's mother, who poisoned her when they were nine. Then Lisa's father also begins to s
Liretrailer1 min 57 s
1 vidéo
2 photos
HorreurMystèreThrillerHorreur surnaturelle

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueMoving into her parents' mansion after she inherits it, a woman, her husband and their daughter stumble upon a dark and terrible family secret.Moving into her parents' mansion after she inherits it, a woman, her husband and their daughter stumble upon a dark and terrible family secret.Moving into her parents' mansion after she inherits it, a woman, her husband and their daughter stumble upon a dark and terrible family secret.

  • Director
    • Elbert van Strien
  • Writers
    • Elbert van Strien
    • Paulo van Vliet
  • Stars
    • Hadewych Minis
    • Barry Atsma
    • Isabelle Stokkel
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    5,5/10
    1,5 k
    MA NOTE
    • Director
      • Elbert van Strien
    • Writers
      • Elbert van Strien
      • Paulo van Vliet
    • Stars
      • Hadewych Minis
      • Barry Atsma
      • Isabelle Stokkel
    • 10Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 23Commentaires de critiques
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
    • Prix
      • 3 victoires au total

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    Two Eyes Staring
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    Rôles principaux15

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    Hadewych Minis
    Hadewych Minis
    • Christine…
    Barry Atsma
    Barry Atsma
    • Paul
    Isabelle Stokkel
    • Lisa
    Charlotte Arnoldy
    • Karen
    Steven Boen
    Steven Boen
    • Rijkswachter
    Warre Borgmans
    • Psychiater
    Philippe Colpaert
    • Peter
    Viviane de Muynck
    • Non
    Els Dottermans
    • Juf Bongaerts
    Marc Lauwrys
    Marc Lauwrys
    • Huisarts
    Bart Slegers
    Bart Slegers
    • Geert
    Lisa Smit
    Lisa Smit
    • Karen
    • (voice)
    Tibo Vandenborre
    Tibo Vandenborre
    • Mertens
    Maryous Gabrielse
    • Guest at Funural
    • (uncredited)
    Bastiaan Rook
    • Guest at funural
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Elbert van Strien
    • Writers
      • Elbert van Strien
      • Paulo van Vliet
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs10

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    8ivan-caldarevic

    European Cinematography Jewel!

    I didn't have any expectations towards this movie, and probably it made it so good for me. Plus great setting in which I saw it, on a small film festival, outside during the cold night.

    Great acting, amazing atmosphere, fair story, good camera, intensive, great scare factor! The story is a bit usual and stereotype, but it doesn't affect how good this movie is. Karen is very scary, reminded me on Reagan from the Exorcist!

    In short it is the story of a family with problems, which moves to a new house in which they start to experience weird and paranormal things.

    I would highly recommend it!
    6willemlenders

    A girl and her family move into her grandma's mansion after she passed away, but something isn't quite right.

    Though the trailer of 'Two eyes staring' made the movie seem scary and interesting to me, I was gravely disappointed after watching it. The storyline had a lot of potential, but unfortunately it was underdeveloped and unexplained. Thinking of movies like 'The others' with the same principles, make this movie look like a movie for kids. There wasn't a single scene in the movie that scared me. Actress Hadewych Minis might be the only thing about the movie that deserves a lot of praise. Her acting made the movie worthwhile. It wasn't horrible, but it just wasn't living up to my expectations. If you want to watch an simple movie for a relaxing night and you're done with the romantic comedies, this one might please you.Six out of ten for effort.
    5Field78

    All the water drained from the plot in the end

    Don't be fooled into thinking that this is a Dutch remake of 'Dark Water', the Japanese ghost movie that was already remade by Hollywood with the same title. A mysterious house and some dirty water is all that these films have in common. And yes, there is the 'ghost angle', but as ghost stories go, this movie has much more in common with The Sixth Sense. But due to how disappointingly that ghost element plays out in the end here, that's where the similarities end.

    The beginning of the movie seems promising, yet somewhat predictable: a family moves to a huge house which was inherited from the wife's estranged mother. The young daughter quickly starts to feel that something is wrong in the house, apart from the dark water coming from the faucets. The wife is too career-minded to hear her stories, only the good-natured husband seems to listen, but he believes all the freaky stuff is just stress from the moving and the new surroundings. Without spoiling too much, the girl's ordeal leads to a lot of confusion as to the history and disposition of a strange presence in the house. A solid plot device that was one of the reasons that The Sixth Sense worked so well, and here, it goes a long way, but unfortunately not all the way until the end.

    The supernatural element is played out quite well throughtout most of the film, until 20 minutes before the end, where they introduce a couple of plot twists that tear out the bottom of a carefully constructed narrative. A plot twist provides an unexpected direction to a central premise, and if done well, it changes a premise you may not even have been consciously aware off. But in this movie, they present an ill-conceived alternative explanation that comes out of nowhere, a surprise for the sake of having a surprise. If the ending raises more questions than it answers (and I don't mean the good, philosophical questions, but simply logical questions), it is clear that the screenwriter has failed to do a good job.

    The film looks great and has some very good art direction and photography, but it is pretty clear from the beginning that the horror aspect of the movie is a lazy rehash from other and much better movies. In the Netherlands, we have the tendency to copy cinema trends with a delay of several years, so such a deja-vu expeirence is not uncommon. We have literally seen such scenes dozens of times before, and when you can actually anticipate jump scares, you know that the director has failed on that aspect.

    So the film quickly starts to get more predictable and becomes even boring, which isn't helped by the fact that I find Hadewych Minis a limited actress who seems to have only one facial expression in her repertoire (she is mainly knwon for doing radio commercials these days). Isabelle Stokkel is doing fine as the daughter, and I also liked Barry Atsma's performance. For some reason, many people dislike his portrayals because he is way too pretty for the everyman roles he usually plays, but I will not hold that against him.

    The Netherlands don't have a rich history of good horror movies, and this film isn't going to change that, not as long as we keep trying to copy trends from other countries without adding our own spin to it. I have expressed my adoration for the underrated The Pool (2014) before, one of the few Dutch horror movies that did that and worked (for me at least), and I'll do it again here. Or maybe we should resort to remaking thrillers? Loft was pretty well received, and even original ones like The Resistance Banker. I have to admit that even I am getting tired of all the Dutch romcoms now. So please, get a decent screenwriter and a decent director (preferably the same person) and let somebody fund a genuinely good Dutch genre movie.
    3tooltime_tim

    Some movies go from 0 to 100, this one does it the other way around

    Well...

    I still don't know what to say. The movie start out pretty cool with a few very good shock effects, "creepy little kid galore", and then... Well... It doesn't built tension, it releases it. In my opinion, the movie gets lamer with every minute...

    What you get, though, is descent camera work and music. The actors look like they know what they do, although I really can't recommend the German dub, this plain sucks. Yes, I watches it German, and the voices sound stupid most of the time. And with stupid, I mean REALLY stupid. Tried a bit of the movie in it's original language, and it sounded better, although I didn't understand very much, the voices seemed much more believable.

    If you ask me, the movies biggest flaw is that it starts REALLY creepy and after maybe half of the movie, it tries to develop into some sort of drama. And for the whole second half of the movie, it doesn't what what it wants to be: horror movie or drama.

    And yes, with this being a "new age" horror movie, you will (of course) get a major plot twist towards the end. Which doesn't save the movie from being boring, except for the first 15 or 20 minutes or so.

    Don't buy it! Go rent it out instead. If you wanna see creepy little kids, then you're right, but turn the player off after 60 minutes. Or go for "The Orphanage".
    5chrichtonsworld

    A step in the right direction for Dutch horror movies,but still not quite there!

    For a country that hasn't made a lot of horror movies this movie sure is a huge improvement. But it still needs a lot of work. The slow buildup was pretty good and provided just enough tension to make it interesting. However there were not enough scary moments to qualify as a real horror. As a drama this also fails since most of the characters don't act as they would in real life. It was very hard for me to have sympathy for the mother. Since it was obvious she wasn't exactly right in the head from the start. If this fact wasn't entirely clear than some events would have worked better. A lot of events in the movie also relied too much on coincidence and convenience. The cousin is pretty vague throughout the movie until the end. Christine and her odd behavior towards her husband and her daughter should have at least made the husband curious to find out what is going on. But he makes no attempt whatsoever. Another example is the fact that both parents suddenly have to work when previously only one did. Logically it doesn't even make sense since they didn't have to pay rent and had more to spare. Plot wise it is understandable since they had to create the opportunity for the daughter Lisa to experience the things she does. Of course these are all tactics to build up the tension even more but to me it had quite the opposite effect. These superficial tactics would have worked better if the movie had other things to offer. Like really scary scenes or imagery that would suggest or give another perspective on the events. The lack of actual plot or character development made it a predictable affair to the experienced horror fan. And that really is a bloody shame since this movie had the potential to become a classic.

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      In 2011, an American remake of the film titled Two Eyes Staring was announced, to be directed by Scott Derrickson and with a starring role for Charlize Theron. Although the project is officially still in development as of 2019, there have been no updates and Theron is no longer attached to the project.
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    • Date de sortie
      • 11 mars 2010 (Netherlands)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Netherlands
      • Belgium
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      • 138 381 $ US
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