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Kader

  • 2006
  • 1h 43m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
7,7/10
20 k
MA NOTE
Kader (2006)
TurcDrame

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueBekir loves Ugur, who loves Zagor, who is about to get out of jail. An already tense love triangle is thrown into turmoil on a hot summer night, when Zagor kills someone, and Ugur disappears... Tout lireBekir loves Ugur, who loves Zagor, who is about to get out of jail. An already tense love triangle is thrown into turmoil on a hot summer night, when Zagor kills someone, and Ugur disappears.Bekir loves Ugur, who loves Zagor, who is about to get out of jail. An already tense love triangle is thrown into turmoil on a hot summer night, when Zagor kills someone, and Ugur disappears.

  • Réalisation
    • Zeki Demirkubuz
  • Scénariste
    • Zeki Demirkubuz
  • Vedettes
    • Ufuk Bayraktar
    • Vildan Atasever
    • Engin Akyürek
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    7,7/10
    20 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Zeki Demirkubuz
    • Scénariste
      • Zeki Demirkubuz
    • Vedettes
      • Ufuk Bayraktar
      • Vildan Atasever
      • Engin Akyürek
    • 19Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 9Commentaires de critiques
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    • Prix
      • 10 victoires et 9 nominations au total

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    Ufuk Bayraktar
    Ufuk Bayraktar
    • Bekir
    Vildan Atasever
    • Ugur
    Engin Akyürek
    Engin Akyürek
    • Cevat
    Müge Ulusoy
    Müge Ulusoy
    • Ugur's Mother
    Mustafa Uzunyilmaz
    Mustafa Uzunyilmaz
    • Ugur's Father
    Settar Tanriögen
    Settar Tanriögen
    • Bekir's Father
    Erkan Can
    Erkan Can
    • Otelci Irfan
    Gönül Çalgan
    • Bekir's Mother
    Ozan Bilen
    • Zagor
    Güzin Alkan
    Güzin Alkan
    • Emine
    Hikmet Demir
    • Kudret
    Çaglar Çorumlu
    Çaglar Çorumlu
    • Kamil
    Müfit Aytekin
    Müfit Aytekin
    • Cemil
    Apo Demirkubuz
    • Muzo
    • (as Abdullah Demirkubuz)
    Huseyin Amasyali
    Helin Avsar
    Huseyin Ali Bagotu
      Buse Baysal
      • Réalisation
        • Zeki Demirkubuz
      • Scénariste
        • Zeki Demirkubuz
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      Commentaires des utilisateurs19

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      10chimera_s

      pure life without dip

      Imagine a film, that makes you feel the hardness of the pavement you hit your head onto, once again. Imagine a film, the only thing you can do after leaving the cinema is shutting up your mouth. Imagine a film, that tells you the inside world of the taxi driver who is driving you home or to work.

      This is thematic continuation of Masumiyet, but more in the flashback mode and hits much powerful than Masumiyet, although with a less experienced cast. The story tells us how the love of Bekir and Ugur (continued characters in Masumiyet) began, and the surroundings of them in their youth. But ! this is the apparent, the easily visible part of that film! The more important thematic gem, is the surroundings of these two characters, which appropriately fits the living-cultural-social conditions of the big populated suburbs of big cities of Turkey. This is not a documentary and not a love story with its simplest meaning and it is not realism; it is the reality itself. It's bone hard, that pulls you into the living of the 'damned', as termed by the bourgeois or religious jargon. The acting is, though Vildan Atasever got so much negative critics (my opinion, she is the leading cast, a very talented artist) superb. Keep also in mind that certain camera angels in very small locations are used masterfully. The story: do not look to the apparent love story going on ! Try to understand those circumstances and those people. People live the lives of conditions they are born into. It is a everyday news here in Turkey, that some people kill some other for not any reason that could be put into the borders of "western rationality". The best explaining word for this movie is a German word: Knallhart ! (not implying the film knallhart-2006 in any way) translated as tough enough, but which explains a more dramatic condition. That film is a real Knallhart of the last few years not only in the name of Turkish movie making. You can observe these lives in Barcelona, Rome, Berlin, and maybe all Latin America. For those watching this film with translation, either dubbed or subbed, many of the dialogs, i guess, will be more softly pronounced. Linguistic is the heart of a culture. And, Demirkubuz made his masterpiece by pulling out the heart of the streets of its shell and bringing it to the world of cinema. There is a world going on with very simple rules, when you are asleep.

      and finally some trivial: Demirkubuz's 2001 movie Yazgi means also destiny or fate.
      10cengizdayi23

      Zeki Demirkubuz

      This is the best Turkish movie i have ever watched..its realism, realistic characters,realistic story containing all humanistic and ethical values are already milestones for not only Turkish cinema but also all world. Zeki Demirkubuz's best film,even better than "Masumiyet".Demirkubuz return back to the youth of Bekir and Ugur by telling the Zagor's world.Love that Bekir feels to Ugur and Ugur to Zagor makes us think about almost all ideas related to human and crime.In general , "Kader" is about life,human and what so ever. i do NOT find more words to comment on. i suppose;the ones watched the film will understand my surprised and shocked mode.
      7l_rawjalaurence

      A Yeşilçam Melodrama Plot with a Pessimistic Twist

      Conceived as a prequel to MASUMİYET (1997), KADER (DESTINY) focuses on an impossible love-affair between Bekir (Ufuk Bayraktar) and Uğur (Vildan Atasever) that begins in the seedier areas of Beyoğlu in İstanbul and remains unfinished in the snowy wastes of Kars in the east of the Republic of Turkey.

      The sentiments expressed are redolent of the Yeşilçam melodramas that hitherto have formed a backdrop to many of Demirkubuz's movies. Bekir leaves his wife Emine (Güzin Alkan) and children on at least two occasions to pursue Uğur all around the country, despite the hopelessness of his quest. Uğur remains in love with habitual criminal Zagor (Ozan Bilen), who is transferred from prison to prison following a series of attacks on police officers, wardens and fellow inmates. Uğur keeps telling Bekir to go home, but he keeps reappearing in her life at the most inopportune moments; in the Black Sea port of Sinop, for example, she is evicted from her hotel room as Bekir clamors to see her. The ill-matched couple finally fetch up at a mud-brick house in Kars; nothing is resolved (which subverts the Yeşilçam convention).

      Demirkubuz invests this story with gritty social realism. Uğur grows up in a violent environment where women are routinely treated as sex-objects with little power of self-determination. She cannot quite grasp the fact that Bekir lacks the outward strength to conform to her expectations of all men. Bekir likes to exchange sex-talk with his male friends, but hardly conforms to the image of masculinity that prevails in his immediate surroundings, that is based on power and aggression. It is the kind of world where Uğur's mother's boyfriend Cevat (Engin Akyürek) is knifed to death in a kıraathane (coffee-house), simply for causing an argument.

      In this kind of environment where such feelings as love and tenderness mean nothing, it's hardly surprising that the central love-affair remains unfulfilled. Bekir must shoulder some of the blame for this; at one point he vividly describes how he made love to Uğur on the first occasion they met. In truth he was almost embarrassed in her presence, unable to speak or communicate properly and falling in love with her photograph. Yet the admission of such emotions is considered "unmanly," something that Bekir is keen to avoid.

      On at least three occasions the protagonists refer to destiny directing their lives: Uğur cannot help but pursue Zagor, despite his propensity for being imprisoned, while Bekir cannot avoid pursuing Uğur all round the country, even if by doing so he enters "another world," in which marriage, home and family (the traditional symbols of social and moral stability) no longer matter. We might disagree with the protagonists' analysis - to a large extent their decisions are made of their own free will - but we nonetheless understand quite tangibly how their characters have been shaped by the harsh environment in which they have grown up. This is the fundamental socio-economic point that KADER makes; if the families showed more concern for their members and their collective futures, then perhaps the world might be a less unforgiving place.
      Redfirel

      Good, but not great like 'Masumiyet' was

      Demirkubuz was always going to have a hard time matching the brilliance of 'Masumiyet'. While 'Kader' is a good piece of work, you cant help but feel he was trying too hard to recreate the 'Masumiyet' magic here.

      The biggest problem I had with the film was how characters were built up and dropped like hot potatoes somewhere along the way with their fates left unresolved. Case in point. A significant portion of the film's first half deals with Ugur's dysfunctional family- her father's state of illness, her mother's desperation, her brother's self esteem issues etc. However at the halfway point, these characters simply disappear off the radar and the film moves on as of they never existed in the first place.

      Script and pacing issues aside, the other main weakness here is the lead actor Bayraktar who I thought was very wooden. He seemed to be simply reading the lines off the script without actually getting into the character. When he does attempt to stop brooding and display emotion, it comes across as artificial and forced. About the rest of the cast. Vildan Atasever, the lead actress, does quite well playing 'Ugur', but I felt her character was underwritten in the script. I must say that she reminded me of Itir Esen in this film- the resemblance is uncanny. A special mention must go to the actress who plays Bekir's (ex?)-wife. I thought she brought real emotional depth and complexity to her character. More of her would have really influenced the film in a positive way.

      A lot of people have been disconcerted by the abundant swearing in the film but I didn't find it to be much of an issue. I appreciated the dark tone which was carried on from 'Masumiyet'. The camera angles are often static and Demirkubuz prolongs scenes which give it an unpolished natural feel.

      Let me conclude by saying that 'Kader' is quite well made, but its missing that extra emotional oomph that 'Masumiyet' had
      8ruhi-yaman

      Obsession as a way of life

      We don't get Turkish films in Australia, apart from the odd festival piece. We have to wait for the DVDs to arrive or to be sent by relatives. I have just seen Kader.

      How interesting it is that characters and reviewers alike talk about Bekir's love for Ugur. In every culture, there is a degree of confusion where love ends and obsession begins, but in my experience it has always been a particular Mediterrenean/Balkan disease. The director, very skillfully, conveys that in an environment where all conviction is hopeless dedicating a life to a person makes as much sense as any other formula for living. Bekir's obsession for Ugur intensifies because of, not despite, her rejection of him. However, the film is much more than a doomed love story. It is at once an exploration of alienation of youth, a study of roots of violence and a critique of machismo culture. Bekir's character reminded me a line from a well-known Turkish poem: "Like a pain without a body / seeking an organ to attach itself" (my translation, my apologies to purists). In reality, the line applies to all the major characters in the film. Much criticised ending is perfect, in my opinion. I cannot imagine a better way to end this important addition to modern Turkish cinema.

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      • Anecdotes
        In the first scene of Irfan's hotel, Bekir salutes Irfan and they watch Masumiyet (1997) on TV, which is sequel of this movie. In a way, Bekir witnesses his future with Ugur.
      • Gaffes
        While Bekir is cutting Ugur's photo the tea glass is nearly empty, but then he looks in the photo he cut and half of the glass is full.
      • Connexions
        Follows Masumiyet (1997)
      • Bandes originales
        Meditations
        Written and performed by Eduard Artemyev

        Courtesy of Electroshock Records

        Cleared by Rh Pozitif Publishing

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      Détails

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      • Date de sortie
        • 17 novembre 2006 (Turkey)
      • Pays d’origine
        • Turkey
        • Greece
      • Langue
        • Turkish
      • Aussi connu sous le nom de
        • Destiny
      • Lieux de tournage
        • Istanbul, Turquie
      • sociétés de production
        • Eurimages
        • Greek Film Centre (GFC)
        • Highway Productions
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        • 122 904 $ US
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        • 1h 43m(103 min)
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        • Dolby Digital

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