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Un jeune Viking se retrouve abandonné suite à un combat de clan contre une tribu amérindienne. Elevé au sein de la tribu, il devient finalement leur sauveur dans un combat contre les Norvégi... Tout lireUn jeune Viking se retrouve abandonné suite à un combat de clan contre une tribu amérindienne. Elevé au sein de la tribu, il devient finalement leur sauveur dans un combat contre les Norvégiens.Un jeune Viking se retrouve abandonné suite à un combat de clan contre une tribu amérindienne. Elevé au sein de la tribu, il devient finalement leur sauveur dans un combat contre les Norvégiens.
- Prix
- 1 nomination au total
Wayne Charles Baker
- Indian Father
- (as Wayne C. Baker)
Avis en vedette
Nipsel and company basically hybridized the structure of Dances with Wolves with a not-quite-historical fiction (more like radical speculation) plot about interactions between Norsemen and Native Americans during the 12th century A.D.
Ghost (Karl Urban) is a Norse boy left behind aboard a wrecked ship. He is adopted by the Clan of the Dog (the dogs who cohabitate with this tribe are historically inaccurate, but that's just one of many historical transgressions). As he grows up, Ghost's obvious difference and his history become something of a stumbling block for him, but he works hard to overcome them in order to be accepted by his adoptive people. Eventually, it seems, he must confront the demons of his past, and unfortunately, so must the Clan of the Dog.
Pathfinder is played well by Russell Means, and Ghost's love interest - Starfire - is nicely portrayed by Moon Bloodgood. Urban has great physical talent, but this story did not lend itself to testing his ability to create drama and mood, so there isn't much to say about his performance. Likewise, most of the Norse characters were so under-developed and one-dimensional that it is impossible to comment on the performances involved.
Although the story relies on stereotypes to develop both its Norse and Native American characters, since so little is actually known about the Norse colonies, this seems forgivable. What is not really forgivable, in my opinion, is the reiteration of the trope established in Dances with Wolves and other similar works which suggests that it takes a European to effectively fight off Europeans. Although the characterizations of the protagonists in both films are adequate to explain their behavior, the character and behavior of the Native Americans attached to them is less well developed, and there is a lingering, inaccurate and disturbing shadow of inferiority implied in their apparent inability to strategize and effectively lead in combat.
However, Pathfinder refuses to touch reality with any length of pole, so, sit back and enjoy the action, costumes and sets.
The film contains a lot of violence, most of which is convincingly shot. The costuming is excellent, and the sets are lovely. if you can get past the problems - which are several - you may just enjoy it.
Ghost (Karl Urban) is a Norse boy left behind aboard a wrecked ship. He is adopted by the Clan of the Dog (the dogs who cohabitate with this tribe are historically inaccurate, but that's just one of many historical transgressions). As he grows up, Ghost's obvious difference and his history become something of a stumbling block for him, but he works hard to overcome them in order to be accepted by his adoptive people. Eventually, it seems, he must confront the demons of his past, and unfortunately, so must the Clan of the Dog.
Pathfinder is played well by Russell Means, and Ghost's love interest - Starfire - is nicely portrayed by Moon Bloodgood. Urban has great physical talent, but this story did not lend itself to testing his ability to create drama and mood, so there isn't much to say about his performance. Likewise, most of the Norse characters were so under-developed and one-dimensional that it is impossible to comment on the performances involved.
Although the story relies on stereotypes to develop both its Norse and Native American characters, since so little is actually known about the Norse colonies, this seems forgivable. What is not really forgivable, in my opinion, is the reiteration of the trope established in Dances with Wolves and other similar works which suggests that it takes a European to effectively fight off Europeans. Although the characterizations of the protagonists in both films are adequate to explain their behavior, the character and behavior of the Native Americans attached to them is less well developed, and there is a lingering, inaccurate and disturbing shadow of inferiority implied in their apparent inability to strategize and effectively lead in combat.
However, Pathfinder refuses to touch reality with any length of pole, so, sit back and enjoy the action, costumes and sets.
The film contains a lot of violence, most of which is convincingly shot. The costuming is excellent, and the sets are lovely. if you can get past the problems - which are several - you may just enjoy it.
What a waste.
The only redeeming feature of this movie were the well made action scenes (not all were good, but overall there were more enjoyable fight sequences than boring ones).
The story is clichéd and predictable. The acting is terrible (the main role is so horribly sketched out that you can barely blame the actor, the supporting roles all make a mark for their blandness). The main couple have no chemistry, the dialog is UN-enjoyably bad and the editing looks like it was done by a blind man. Scenes start and end with absolutely no flow. One scene was particularly bad (I wont spoil it for you, suffice to say its the one where the Indians charge into battle against the hero's wishes). That is the only scene when I laughed in the movie, and its supposed to be a sad/rousing scene.
The trailer of this film looked really pretty, but then again the consisted of mostly the fight scenes so I'm not surprised at all. The director seems to have had a good eye for visuals, but his effort has ended there.
Pathfinder = 5/10 Five for the fight scenes.
I was trying to find a path out of the theater at many times during the movie.
The only redeeming feature of this movie were the well made action scenes (not all were good, but overall there were more enjoyable fight sequences than boring ones).
The story is clichéd and predictable. The acting is terrible (the main role is so horribly sketched out that you can barely blame the actor, the supporting roles all make a mark for their blandness). The main couple have no chemistry, the dialog is UN-enjoyably bad and the editing looks like it was done by a blind man. Scenes start and end with absolutely no flow. One scene was particularly bad (I wont spoil it for you, suffice to say its the one where the Indians charge into battle against the hero's wishes). That is the only scene when I laughed in the movie, and its supposed to be a sad/rousing scene.
The trailer of this film looked really pretty, but then again the consisted of mostly the fight scenes so I'm not surprised at all. The director seems to have had a good eye for visuals, but his effort has ended there.
Pathfinder = 5/10 Five for the fight scenes.
I was trying to find a path out of the theater at many times during the movie.
This is pretty good B-movie. If you want subtle plot and dialog then you should have figured out from the trailer and the poster that this show is not for you.
Yes, it appears to be inspired by a Frazetta painting (see Death Dealer) and is surely derivative of Conan and Tarzan. But how long has it been since a good Conan or Tarzan movie.
Lots of gore, lots of decapitations (but as Joe Bob would say, all necessary for the plot) lots of low key lighting to make the special effects easier to pull off but then again, it's not a chick flick.
If only we still had drive in movies.
Yes, it appears to be inspired by a Frazetta painting (see Death Dealer) and is surely derivative of Conan and Tarzan. But how long has it been since a good Conan or Tarzan movie.
Lots of gore, lots of decapitations (but as Joe Bob would say, all necessary for the plot) lots of low key lighting to make the special effects easier to pull off but then again, it's not a chick flick.
If only we still had drive in movies.
This movie was gorgeous and everything I ever wanted in a "Viking" lands on North America film. I thought this film was very underrated and with the Judd Apatow dreck that gets called film-making these days this really stands up in beauty and depth of story. The cinematography of the Northwest coast was amazing and incorporating the dense forests and lush environments into the shooting process was simply amazing.
The acting was perfect and at times understated in wonderfully blocked scenes between the characters. I thought the action is unmatched by many films pretending to be the action blockbusters they are often sold as. I often marveled at the length in which the filmmakers brought the setting to us no matter how difficult the set-ups seemed.
I hope he keeps making films for years to come! Beautiful!
The acting was perfect and at times understated in wonderfully blocked scenes between the characters. I thought the action is unmatched by many films pretending to be the action blockbusters they are often sold as. I often marveled at the length in which the filmmakers brought the setting to us no matter how difficult the set-ups seemed.
I hope he keeps making films for years to come! Beautiful!
While the story is good, the flaws begin to stand out.
Yes, all the little things that should have been important to the filmmakers in production and in filming.
Like - airplanes in the sky.
It seems to be winter or early spring but snow doesn't stick to anything, nobody's face or skin turns overly cold or white or purple due to it. Snow doesn't turn to water when collecting on anybodies's face, the pelts they wear do not freeze after they fall through ice into the river Natives have very straight, clean teeth and very clean hair and skin - even after going through battle.
Vikings wear heavy amour but move swift, fast and easily through the forest.
Climbing the edge of a mountain, nobody is freezing wearing virtually no clothing.
There are tire tracks in the mud.
Even though a slew of swords are used and arrows are shot, no horses get injured.
There are a bunch of things like that - after watching the movie, just begins to make you wonder how this can be thought out and actually given an OK.
Snow that blows all over the place, but in some areas of open space, there is none and then several feet away there is several feet of it.
Caves with light coming in from all directions.
Swords that seem to weigh as much as a can of pop - being easily flung across a field or lifted and swung without much force or effort.
I can go on,but I won't.
Yes, all the little things that should have been important to the filmmakers in production and in filming.
Like - airplanes in the sky.
It seems to be winter or early spring but snow doesn't stick to anything, nobody's face or skin turns overly cold or white or purple due to it. Snow doesn't turn to water when collecting on anybodies's face, the pelts they wear do not freeze after they fall through ice into the river Natives have very straight, clean teeth and very clean hair and skin - even after going through battle.
Vikings wear heavy amour but move swift, fast and easily through the forest.
Climbing the edge of a mountain, nobody is freezing wearing virtually no clothing.
There are tire tracks in the mud.
Even though a slew of swords are used and arrows are shot, no horses get injured.
There are a bunch of things like that - after watching the movie, just begins to make you wonder how this can be thought out and actually given an OK.
Snow that blows all over the place, but in some areas of open space, there is none and then several feet away there is several feet of it.
Caves with light coming in from all directions.
Swords that seem to weigh as much as a can of pop - being easily flung across a field or lifted and swung without much force or effort.
I can go on,but I won't.
Le saviez-vous
- AnecdotesThe Native Americans the Vikings encounter historically were the Beothuk people of Newfoundland in Canada. There is a large historical site around the Viking settlements in Newfoundland for tourists to visit.
- GaffesWhen Ghost is shown as a child in the flashback, his back is severely cut from his whipping, yet, when the film moves ahead to him as a adult, there is no scarring of any type on his back, yet, the amount of trauma his back suffered would have left some degree of obvious scarring.
- ConnexionsEdited into Pathfinder: Deleted Scenes (2007)
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Détails
Box-office
- Budget
- 45 000 000 $ US (estimation)
- Brut – États-Unis et Canada
- 10 232 081 $ US
- Fin de semaine d'ouverture – États-Unis et Canada
- 5 001 214 $ US
- 15 avr. 2007
- Brut – à l'échelle mondiale
- 30 984 583 $ US
- Durée1 heure 39 minutes
- Couleur
- Mixage
- Rapport de forme
- 2.35 : 1
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