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Helter Skelter

  • Téléfilm
  • 2004
  • Not Rated
  • 2h 16m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
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3,8 k
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Helter Skelter (2004)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA new take on the Manson Family murders, with a keen focus on Charles Manson himself.A new take on the Manson Family murders, with a keen focus on Charles Manson himself.A new take on the Manson Family murders, with a keen focus on Charles Manson himself.

  • Director
    • John Gray
  • Writers
    • Vincent Bugliosi
    • Curt Gentry
    • John Gray
  • Stars
    • Jeremy Davies
    • Clea DuVall
    • Allison Smith
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    6,4/10
    3,8 k
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    • Director
      • John Gray
    • Writers
      • Vincent Bugliosi
      • Curt Gentry
      • John Gray
    • Stars
      • Jeremy Davies
      • Clea DuVall
      • Allison Smith
    • 67Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 12Commentaires de critiques
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    • Nommé pour 1 prix Primetime Emmy
      • 6 nominations au total

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    Jeremy Davies
    Jeremy Davies
    • Charles Manson
    Clea DuVall
    Clea DuVall
    • Linda Kasabian
    Allison Smith
    Allison Smith
    • Patricia 'Katie' Krenwinkel
    Eric Dane
    Eric Dane
    • Charles "Tex" Watson
    Mary Lynn Rajskub
    Mary Lynn Rajskub
    • Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme
    Michael Weston
    Michael Weston
    • Bobby Beausoleil
    Hal Ozsan
    Hal Ozsan
    • Joey Dimarco
    Rick Gomez
    Rick Gomez
    • Milio
    Robert Joy
    Robert Joy
    • Detective Morrisy
    Graham Beckel
    Graham Beckel
    • Jerry
    Chris Ellis
    Chris Ellis
    • Sgt. Whiteley
    Isabella Hofmann
    Isabella Hofmann
    • Rosemary LaBianca
    Robert Costanzo
    Robert Costanzo
    • Leno LaBianca
    Yvonne Delarosa
    Yvonne Delarosa
    • Catherine 'Gypsy' Share
    • (as Yvonne De La Rosa)
    Cheselka Leigh
    Cheselka Leigh
    • Kathryn 'Kitty' Lutesinger
    Keith Szarabajka
    Keith Szarabajka
    John Pleshette
    John Pleshette
    • Mr. Krenwikle
    Whitney Dylan
    • Sharon Tate
    • Director
      • John Gray
    • Writers
      • Vincent Bugliosi
      • Curt Gentry
      • John Gray
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs67

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    8wjfickling

    Complements the 1976 original

    If you are really interested enough in the whole Manson affair to

    devote 7 hours to it, it would probably be best to see this together

    with the 1976 original, because the two fascinatingly complement

    each other like yin and yang, or two pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.

    Moreover, in spite of the chronology of their release, it would

    probably be better to see the 2004 version first, then the 1976

    version. The 1976 version begins with the murders already having

    occured, whereas the 2004 version focuses mainly on the events

    leading up to the murders, and hardly at all on the legal aspects. It

    could be summed up: 1976 version, mostly detective and legal

    work, 2004 version, mostly a psychological study.

    The 2004 version succeeds quite well in showing how Manson

    had the power that he did. Nothing that Manson says makes

    much sense; he exhibits what shrinks call tangentiality, i.e., the

    inability to focus on a point. While this leads most people to avoid

    Manson in the outside world, in the cloistered environment of

    Manson's commune, it forces the listener to listen all the more

    closely. In Jeremy Davies' riveting performance, Manson seems

    almost oracular; the very obscurity of what he was saying can

    make him seem, to the young naifs with whom he surrounded

    himself, profound. It is easy to see how they found him hypnotic.

    Davies makes Manson seem scarier than ever.
    MisfitDoll

    IT'S COMIN' DOWN FAST...MAYBE A LITTLE TOO FAST

    A strong start - the pulsating song "Helter Skelter" (by a band who is not The Beatles) over a montage of 1960s images, and then a swift deposit into the home of music teacher Gary Hinman where we are witness to his brutal senseless killing by Family members Bobby Beausoleil and Susan "Sadie" Atkins. Charlie himself shows up in no time wielding the sword that takes off a piece of Gary's ear. To a true crime buff this is gold, getting to see a re-enactment of that which had not been seen before. Then the movie becomes "The Linda Kasabian Story". We meet Linda as she's introduced, young daughter in arms, to the Family and their home, a disheveled old movie ranch, by Family member Gypsy. From that point onward it's as if we see the story through her eyes only; Clea Duvall, impressive as Linda, is in nearly every frame henceforth. By pointedly attempting to defy comparison to the original, this latest adaptation of the book "Helter Skelter" by prosecuting attorney turned author Vincent Bugliosi, invites just that. Comparison. It tries way too hard to be the anti-1974 version by showing us many of the episodes we didn't get to see in the first (Bobby being pulled over by the police for driving a stolen car, Sharon Tate's possible encounter with a trespassing Manson days before the murder) and omits most of what it assumes we've seen before. There is none of the great detective work of Bugliosi. Bruno Kirby (miscast as Bugliosi) doesn't even show up until nearly two hours into the three hour film. At that point the movie just rushes to get it all over with. As Manson, Jeremy Davies, is adequate. He's studied Charlie's mannerisms, that's for sure, but the lack of actual physical resemblance made for a portrayal hard to swallow. The buzz was we'd learn more about Manson this go 'round; we didn't. Speaking of resemblances, other than Clea Duvall's (and her wig is wretched) to the person she plays, there isn't any to be found here. Many of the family girls were redheads. Most notably Squeaky Fromme, who later went on to attempt to assassinate President Ford. She was copper-haired and freckled. Yet here she's played by Mary Lynn Rajskub (of "24") who's blonde and fair complected. And Kitty Lutesinger had a beautiful mane of auburn hair yet the make-up department chose to give the actress who plays her (Cheselka Leigh) a despicable ratty blonde wig (in this day of chemical treatments and hair extensions why the cheap and obvious wigs?). This probably would have been much better had it been longer, perhaps spread out over two nights. A great disservice was done to the story by having it cruise along at top speed and then bottom out in the final act.
    robc-11

    Chilling, Disturbing Remake

    Of all the murder trials in American history, only the Charles Manson case continues to hold fascination thirty-five years after it took place. The original "Helter Skelter" film aired on CBS in 1976, and focused mainly on the trial of Manson and his zombie teen girls. It was an excellent TV movie, but we never really got a sense of what life with Manson and his young followers was like. This film takes a different approach by focusing on Manson himself, the young people whose lives were ruined by him, and by depicting the actual murders themselves, which were quite intense for a television film. Jeremy Davies ("Spanking the Monkey," "Saving Private Ryan") was deeply scary as Manson. Clea Duvall did a fabulous job as Linda Kasabian, the "family" member who witnessed the murders but did not participate. After the murders, we get the sense that Kasabian is really torn up inside and knows that what was happening was very wrong, while other family members laughed and cheered as they watched news reports of the savage killings on television. Another excellent performance was by Whitney Dylan as Sharon Tate, the pregnant actress who was violently butchered by Manson's murderous teen followers. The scene in which she is on the floor dying and asks the killers to please try and save her baby was chilling and almost tear-inducing. We also get an excellent feel of the turbulent atmosphere of the time, 1969, and how the Manson murders brought "the decade of love" to a thundering halt. What makes this so sad and scary is that this actually happened. The fact that all-American teens from respectable families fell prey to a maniacal con man and are now spending their lives in prison is a frightening reminder of how young people can so easily be led astray by false prophets who promise the world and eventually can lead you into darkness and tragedy, whether it is 1969 or 2004. This film makes you want to hug and talk to your kids about the evil, dangerous alure of cults and false religions. All of the kids in the Manson family were runaways, and Charlie told them exactly what they wanted to hear and soon had them clinging to his every deceptive word. Manson continues to have a following among young people, thirty-five years after these awful crimes, and that's what is really disturbing. Watch the original 1976 film for an exhaustive dramatization of the trial itself, and see this remake for details of the events leading up to the trial. Way above average for television.
    MissJolie

    Great Effort, But Extremely Flawed

    Being as hyped as this movie was, not only was it flawed, it was just plain boring.

    Although the choice to use Linda Kasabian was a smart one, and interesting to say the least, everything else was yawn-inducing.

    The performance of Jeremy Davies as Charles Manson was surprising - he pulled it off perfectly - the performances of those at Cielo Drive were cringe-worthy. Even after spending time with Sharon Tate's sister, Whitney Dylan still couldn't find the spark to play her.

    For reasons unknown, CBS took the step of changing the address of Cielo Drive from 10050 to 10000 - do they know that the now infamous house has been gone for 10 years? They also took the opportunity to change some already dramatic scenes from 1969 to pathetic and downright moronic scenes for this film. Yes, Charles Manson did see Sharon Tate at Cielo Drive in real life, but not like it was shown in the film. And, for anyone who has knowledge on this case, Abigail Folger and Wojciech Frykowski were not that cozy or loving when they were killed - FAR from it.

    Not only did CBS leave many with the wrong idea about those in Cielo Drive, they thought they could get away with overlooking small details of the case. I, for one, noticed them all.

    All in all, Clea and Jeremy probably saved this film from being even more boring than it was. They were the only interesting things about this film and should be rewarded by CBS if this dreadful piece gets high ratings.
    9Anonymous_Maxine

    We're the low art gloominati, And we aim to depress. The scabaret sacri-legends, this is the Golden Age of Grotesque.

    It is with mixed emotions that I give this outstanding documentary such a high rating, because it doesn't exactly know where the line between glorification of a murderous madman and objective re-telling of a truly horrible tale is (and often crosses it), but the movie is so effective at telling the tale of Charles Manson and his followers that it deserves to be seen. Before I go on, it should also be noted that the movie takes a great many creative liberties with its source material, which is perfectly fine with me. What I don't like is when movies are marketed as based on true events or inspired by true events or something and then take some story and do whatever they want with it. This movie is so honest that it starts with nearly a solid minute of full-screen titles explaining that the story has been fictionalized, that certain characters and events have been dramatized for effect.

    That being said, it clearly is not a history lesson of what Manson did, which I almost think that it should have been because of the horrific nature of his crimes (if I can be excused a gag-inducing legal-thriller cliché). The one problem that I have with the movie is that, since so much was dramatized, it was made almost as a fictional thriller rather than a documentary about the Manson family. I saw a documentary about the standoff in Waco that went into great detail about the ATF's involvement (and endless screwups) that resulted in the deaths of so many people, and I think something similar would have been the best way to approach this movie.

    The murder scenes in this movie are extremely difficult to watch because you know they really happened. If nothing else, great attention was paid to making sure that the murders were as close to real life as possible. Many of the victims were even in the same position and locations in and around their houses as they really were when they were found. And this is what made me dislike the level of glorification in the movie. Charles Manson is so deeply insane and the murders committed by his followers, no matter how brainwashed they were, were so heinous and so disgusting that it made me wish they had thrown him in prison and barred all reporters from talking to him or anyone who knew anything about him.

    His punishment should have been disappearance.

    On the other hand, I guess I have to admit that I am fascinated by stories like his, which is why I watch documentaries about the standoff at Waco and movies about Ed Gein or John Wayne Gacy. But I like to think that I look at them almost like extended news clips (despite being fictionalized to whatever extent, in this case), and that I can watch something like this and maintain a level of disgust at what really happened. I see a line, for example, between being impressed with a fictional murderer like Hannibal Lecter and a non-fictional murderer (whether he killed anyone with his own hands or not) like Charles Manson. It made me think twice about what I should really think of the fact that I own 22 Marilyn Manson CDs (see my summary line).

    Another thing that I found interesting was that all of this took place in Topanga Canyon, near where I live. In fact, after I finish writing this review I am going on the same bike ride that I do two or three times a week. I go west on Venice Blvd. to Sepulveda, then head north over the Sepulveda pass to Ventura Blvd. I go left on Ventura, through Woodland Hills to Topanga Canyon road, then I follow that all the way to the coast, which takes me directly through the middle of the town where the Manson family lived. I've been through there probably a hundred times and I never knew that was where this all happened. Scary.

    Jeremy Davies gives a spectacular performance in the movie, and I like that most of it focuses on him and his followers and how he communicated with them to get them to believe that he was their personal savior when in reality he was the exact opposite, and relatively little time is spent showing the murders (which is good because if it was the other way around the movie would have been literally unwatchable). This case is a textbook study for psychologists about the impressionable young minds of the lost young.

    Another element that the movie is not very concerned with is the actual trial itself, although I see no problem with this because it is not a courtroom drama, it is a TV thriller about a murderous cult leader. The movie is already over two hours long, we don't need another hour showing the convictions of a lot of people that we already know were convicted. The movie is more concerned with what events led up to their arrest and prosecution, and in that sense it does very well. Dramatized for effect, but the heart of the meaning of it all is still there.

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      In 2001, Jeremy Davies was in preparations for a different independent film about Charles Manson. He made a tape for the filmmakers of himself playing Manson and the tape became a popular bootleg in the industry. CBS cast Davies and allowed him to rewrite his lines due to his performance in the tape.
    • Gaffes
      As Linda is going through Rosemary Labianca's wallet, VISA and Master Cards can be seen. In 1969 Visa was called Bank AmeriCard and Master Card was called Master Charge.
    • Citations

      Charles Manson: How can I be a hippie when I hate hippies?

    • Autres versions
      A Director's Cut was released on DVD including uncensored scenes, with frames exposing nudes and violence. Explicit material was not shown on the TV presentation as it was highly inappropriate for minors. A considerable number of scenes were re-framed to be showed on television. Although, this version runs only 1 minute longer.
    • Connexions
      References Valley of the Dolls (1967)
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      Written by Jay Livingston and Ray Evans

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    • Date de sortie
      • 16 mai 2004 (United States)
    • Pays d’origine
      • United States
    • Site officiel
      • CBS
    • Langue
      • English
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • 迴轉遊戲
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Visitor Center, Hunt House, Malibu Creek State Park - 1925 Las Virgenes Road, Calabasas, Californie, États-Unis
    • sociétés de production
      • Lakeside Productions
      • Wolper Organization
      • Warner Bros. Television
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