Plusse cloche et très zidiot: Quand Harry rencontre Lloyd
Titre original : Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd
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Harry rencontre Lloyd au lycée, où ils se croisent avec un directeur méchant et un tas d'autres parias comme eux.Harry rencontre Lloyd au lycée, où ils se croisent avec un directeur méchant et un tas d'autres parias comme eux.Harry rencontre Lloyd au lycée, où ils se croisent avec un directeur méchant et un tas d'autres parias comme eux.
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- 1 victoire et 7 nominations au total
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People judge this movie too harshly because it's a prequel to a beloved movie. Yes, the original Dumb & Dumber is far better. Of course it is. No one expected this movie to surpass the original. I honestly think they did a pretty good job. A good number of jokes landed for me and the actors did a great job of portraying what I think a young Harry and Lloyd would act like. They do a better job playing the characters and the actual same actors did in the sequel "Dumb and Dumber To". This movie is way better than that one in my opinion.
Overall, not nearly as bad as people say and deserves more credit. 6/10.
Overall, not nearly as bad as people say and deserves more credit. 6/10.
I really liked the original Dumb and Dumber. I thought it was a hilarious comedy that was better than it looked because of the writing/directing of the Farrelly Brothers and the acting of Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels. When I originally heard that they were doing a sequel to Dumb and Dumber, I was somewhat enthusiastic. Then, it was announced that they were doing a prequel. Enthusiasm meter dropped some. Then, the Farrelly Brothers announced that they wouldn't be involved. Enthusiasm went down some more. And finally, it was said that Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels weren't returning and were to be replaced by younger people. Enthusiasm went straight to hell. But I still decided to give it a chance because Eugene Levy was in it and he always finds a way to make the movies he's in funny. I was wrong again.
The plot - Harry and Llyod meet in the '80's and foil the corrupt principal's plans to steal money for himself and his mistress, the trashy lunch lady. Easily the stupidest plot I have ever heard. And I haven't even started dissecting this trash yet.
Besides being a waste of celluloid, I have never seen such a cast whose talents were so horribly wasted. And there were so many good actors in this. There was Eugene Levy, Cheri Oteri, Luis Guzmán, Mimi Rogers, Shia LaBeouf, and the obligatory cameo by Lin Shaye that happens with nearly every film from New Line (in fact, I wonder if she has some hidden cameo in the Lord of the Rings trilogy). The two actors who replaced Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels - Eric Christian Olsen and Derek Richardson - are good replicates, but they just weren't Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels. The cameo with Bob Saget was dead before it even began. And then, this "film" is so filled with so many mistakes (not including the film itself), I still wonder if this was done accidentally or by the filmmakers to see how many people would notice every mistake the film was filled with.
I thought Gigli was a much better film than this (and that's saying something). This film is nothing but a waste of time, celluloid, talent, and air. I would rather have a root canal without anesthesia than sit through this hunk of garbage, which I rated as the #1 worst movie of 2003, ever again.
The plot - Harry and Llyod meet in the '80's and foil the corrupt principal's plans to steal money for himself and his mistress, the trashy lunch lady. Easily the stupidest plot I have ever heard. And I haven't even started dissecting this trash yet.
Besides being a waste of celluloid, I have never seen such a cast whose talents were so horribly wasted. And there were so many good actors in this. There was Eugene Levy, Cheri Oteri, Luis Guzmán, Mimi Rogers, Shia LaBeouf, and the obligatory cameo by Lin Shaye that happens with nearly every film from New Line (in fact, I wonder if she has some hidden cameo in the Lord of the Rings trilogy). The two actors who replaced Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels - Eric Christian Olsen and Derek Richardson - are good replicates, but they just weren't Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels. The cameo with Bob Saget was dead before it even began. And then, this "film" is so filled with so many mistakes (not including the film itself), I still wonder if this was done accidentally or by the filmmakers to see how many people would notice every mistake the film was filled with.
I thought Gigli was a much better film than this (and that's saying something). This film is nothing but a waste of time, celluloid, talent, and air. I would rather have a root canal without anesthesia than sit through this hunk of garbage, which I rated as the #1 worst movie of 2003, ever again.
...or how to make a comedy without a laugh?
When I first heard that there's a sequel to Dumb and Dumber I was ecstatic since this was the best comedy in ninenties and certainly one of the best comedies ever. But after seeing opening credits (No Jim & Jeff), I was a little sceptical. Never mind, it still can be good...
Erghh, wrong. The movie was getting worse and worse. The leading characters were shown like a couple of retards (very unlikable, since in original there aren't THAT slow), who were just trying to imitate Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels and failed miserably. Lack of charm, i guess. But the main fault goes to script writer who provides a lot of already seen jokes as the rest of the producers of this crap.
I agree, it would be nearly impossible to beat the original version, since it was full of original black humor, but hey, at least they could try harder. Despite that movie sucked, it has some moments...but since i can't remember any if them, i couldn't rate it higher than
3 out of 10.
When I first heard that there's a sequel to Dumb and Dumber I was ecstatic since this was the best comedy in ninenties and certainly one of the best comedies ever. But after seeing opening credits (No Jim & Jeff), I was a little sceptical. Never mind, it still can be good...
Erghh, wrong. The movie was getting worse and worse. The leading characters were shown like a couple of retards (very unlikable, since in original there aren't THAT slow), who were just trying to imitate Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels and failed miserably. Lack of charm, i guess. But the main fault goes to script writer who provides a lot of already seen jokes as the rest of the producers of this crap.
I agree, it would be nearly impossible to beat the original version, since it was full of original black humor, but hey, at least they could try harder. Despite that movie sucked, it has some moments...but since i can't remember any if them, i couldn't rate it higher than
3 out of 10.
While browesing through my local Blockbuster I was looking for a movie to watch in my car on the way to Long Island. Unfortuanetly I picked Dumb and Dumberer. I had heard that it was bad, but I figured, "reviewers are wrong all the time, and besides I loved Dumb and Dumber."
Dumb and Dumberer is set back in the 1980's when Harry and Lloyd first meet eachother. Step 1: If your going to make a movie set in the 80's don't be waving around NEW five dollar bills. Step 2: Why ruin the first movie by making a dispicable prequel.
This movies humor is very much 2nd Grade. If you get a kick at of hearing Bob Saget say SH*T a billion time's then sure go watch this movie. Another that made me mad was how really dumb they were. At least in Dumb and Dumber they had some sense of common sense. In the prequel there is not one inkling of common sense. It almost makes you want to hurt yourself over how dumb they are.
The only good thing about this movie was Eugene Levy. As always he was histerical. Without him this movie would have been 2 inexperienced actors, literally walking around like a bunch of retards.
Bottom line: F+ (with out Eugene Levy) F
Dumb and Dumberer is set back in the 1980's when Harry and Lloyd first meet eachother. Step 1: If your going to make a movie set in the 80's don't be waving around NEW five dollar bills. Step 2: Why ruin the first movie by making a dispicable prequel.
This movies humor is very much 2nd Grade. If you get a kick at of hearing Bob Saget say SH*T a billion time's then sure go watch this movie. Another that made me mad was how really dumb they were. At least in Dumb and Dumber they had some sense of common sense. In the prequel there is not one inkling of common sense. It almost makes you want to hurt yourself over how dumb they are.
The only good thing about this movie was Eugene Levy. As always he was histerical. Without him this movie would have been 2 inexperienced actors, literally walking around like a bunch of retards.
Bottom line: F+ (with out Eugene Levy) F
It's hard to believe that it's actually been almost a decade since the first Dumb and Dumber, which was deservedly a smash hit, was released on the unsuspecting populace. I can see it now. I was in tenth grade, and I still remember ditching class in beautiful Irvine, California to ride my bicycle over to Fashion Island in Newport Beach so my friend and I could steal bubble gum from one of the ritzy drugstores and then go see this movie, which we must have seen in the theaters half a dozen times or so. Where we got the money I've been trying to remember for years.
I'd like to start out by saying that I don't know that the prequel to the brilliant Dumb and Dumber (easily one of the most hilarious comedies to come along in decades) really deserves all of the vicious reviews that it has received from professional and amateur critics alike. It has been a popular and critical disaster from the day it was released, and while it's true that it is simply a bad, bad movie, I think that anyone claiming it to be 'absolutely THE worst movie I've EVER seen' might be exaggerating just a little bit. Or maybe I've just seen worse movies than these people. I've seen some seriously bad movies, and while Dumb and Dumberer is certainly an embarrassing flop, I've seen worse. It's better than Scary Movie 2 and 3 combined, for example.
That being said, on to the crapfests. Dumb and Dumberer, since I have neither the energy nor interest to research the intentions, strikes me almost unmistakably as one of those movies that one studio makes of another studio's movie. Kind of like how Pixar just publicly insulted Disney at the same time as they ended the two companies' partnership, and Pixar promptly announced that they would be making Toy Story 3. I expect Toy Story 3 may be a disaster (if the 'threat' was serious), possibly even purposely, in order to get back at Disney. I don't know that this prequel to Dumb and Dumber was done for revenge at all, but I can't say that it's all that mysterious as to why the original cast and crew had little to nothing to do with it.
That being said, I have to say that I'm impressed with the actors they found to play the younger Harry and Lloyd, especially Lloyd, because this guy, without the bowl-cut and the chipped tooth, looks NOTHING like Jim Carrey's Lloyd, but in the movie he's the spitting image. This is one of the reasons that I think the movie deserves at least minor respect. At least the casting director was on the ball. Sadly, it's all downhill from there. I have to admit that I was pretty happy to see Bob Saget acting again. Granted, I barely remember him in Full House at all and I saw his one spoken line in Half Baked as the official end of his acting career, but I loved his cheesy jokes on America's Funniest Home Videos (the ORIGINAL show) so much that seeing him on screen again was almost like a trip back to my childhood.
And then Harry had a little incident involving chocolate, and I started to squirm in my seat, as I'm sure many other people started to do, given the reviews I've read. It is expected that some memorable scene from the original film would be almost duplicated in a sequel like this, but Harry getting diarrhea in the original movie was funny because it was there for a reason. Lloyd put massive amounts of laxative in Harry's tea to get revenge on him for dating the girl that he was after. Crude, yes, but still funny. In this movie, Harry goes nuts with the chocolate in the bathroom and then Jessica's poor dad (Bob Saget) comes in and screams a numbing stream of profanity about there being feces all over his bathroom. Not only is this supposed to be funny, but there is so much stock put into this idea that it's duplicated again later in the film.
It's sad that a comedy as smashing and brilliant as Dumb and Dumber has been followed up by such a stupid, stupid film. While I admit that you can hardly expect for them to have created something as great as Dumb and Dumber again, I really didn't think that they could have come up with something THIS bad. I mean, just the name itself should have inspired some better ideas for the movie. Sadly, it seems that the powers that be were more interested in throwing a sequel out there than they were in actually making it deserve its title.
And when a movie isn't good enough to deserve a title like Dumb & Dumberer, it's a bad, bad sign.
I'd like to start out by saying that I don't know that the prequel to the brilliant Dumb and Dumber (easily one of the most hilarious comedies to come along in decades) really deserves all of the vicious reviews that it has received from professional and amateur critics alike. It has been a popular and critical disaster from the day it was released, and while it's true that it is simply a bad, bad movie, I think that anyone claiming it to be 'absolutely THE worst movie I've EVER seen' might be exaggerating just a little bit. Or maybe I've just seen worse movies than these people. I've seen some seriously bad movies, and while Dumb and Dumberer is certainly an embarrassing flop, I've seen worse. It's better than Scary Movie 2 and 3 combined, for example.
That being said, on to the crapfests. Dumb and Dumberer, since I have neither the energy nor interest to research the intentions, strikes me almost unmistakably as one of those movies that one studio makes of another studio's movie. Kind of like how Pixar just publicly insulted Disney at the same time as they ended the two companies' partnership, and Pixar promptly announced that they would be making Toy Story 3. I expect Toy Story 3 may be a disaster (if the 'threat' was serious), possibly even purposely, in order to get back at Disney. I don't know that this prequel to Dumb and Dumber was done for revenge at all, but I can't say that it's all that mysterious as to why the original cast and crew had little to nothing to do with it.
That being said, I have to say that I'm impressed with the actors they found to play the younger Harry and Lloyd, especially Lloyd, because this guy, without the bowl-cut and the chipped tooth, looks NOTHING like Jim Carrey's Lloyd, but in the movie he's the spitting image. This is one of the reasons that I think the movie deserves at least minor respect. At least the casting director was on the ball. Sadly, it's all downhill from there. I have to admit that I was pretty happy to see Bob Saget acting again. Granted, I barely remember him in Full House at all and I saw his one spoken line in Half Baked as the official end of his acting career, but I loved his cheesy jokes on America's Funniest Home Videos (the ORIGINAL show) so much that seeing him on screen again was almost like a trip back to my childhood.
And then Harry had a little incident involving chocolate, and I started to squirm in my seat, as I'm sure many other people started to do, given the reviews I've read. It is expected that some memorable scene from the original film would be almost duplicated in a sequel like this, but Harry getting diarrhea in the original movie was funny because it was there for a reason. Lloyd put massive amounts of laxative in Harry's tea to get revenge on him for dating the girl that he was after. Crude, yes, but still funny. In this movie, Harry goes nuts with the chocolate in the bathroom and then Jessica's poor dad (Bob Saget) comes in and screams a numbing stream of profanity about there being feces all over his bathroom. Not only is this supposed to be funny, but there is so much stock put into this idea that it's duplicated again later in the film.
It's sad that a comedy as smashing and brilliant as Dumb and Dumber has been followed up by such a stupid, stupid film. While I admit that you can hardly expect for them to have created something as great as Dumb and Dumber again, I really didn't think that they could have come up with something THIS bad. I mean, just the name itself should have inspired some better ideas for the movie. Sadly, it seems that the powers that be were more interested in throwing a sequel out there than they were in actually making it deserve its title.
And when a movie isn't good enough to deserve a title like Dumb & Dumberer, it's a bad, bad sign.
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- AnecdotesEarly on, South Park (1997) creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone were lined up to write the prequel for $1.5 million. They later decided to not work on the project and returned all of the money to New Line.
- GaffesLloyd listens to Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby" on the school loudspeaker. The movie takes place in 1986; the song came out in 1990.
- Citations
Jessica's Dad: [walks in his bathroom covered in chocolate] Oh, my God. He shit everywhere.
[screaming]
Jessica's Dad: THERE'S SHIT EVERYWHERE! DAMNIT! THEY SHIT ON THE WINDOWS! OH MY GOD! MY HOUSE IS FULL OF SHIT! HE SHIT EVERYWHERE! LOOK WHAT HE DID HE SHIT ALL OVER THE WALL!
- Générique farfeluOuttakes are shown alongside the ending credits.
- ConnexionsFeatured in Troldspejlet: Episode #30.5 (2004)
- Bandes originalesIce Ice Baby
Written by David Bowie, Earthquake (as Floyd Brown), John Deacon, Mario 'Chocolate' Johnson (as Mario Johnson), Brian May, Freddie Mercury, Roger Taylor and Vanilla Ice (as Robert Van Winkle)
Performed by Vanilla Ice
Courtesy of SBK Records
Under license from EMI Film & Television Music
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- Budget
- 19 000 000 $ US (estimation)
- Brut – États-Unis et Canada
- 26 276 465 $ US
- Fin de semaine d'ouverture – États-Unis et Canada
- 11 100 000 $ US
- 15 juin 2003
- Brut – à l'échelle mondiale
- 39 267 515 $ US
- Durée1 heure 25 minutes
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- 1.85 : 1
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