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Kati et steffi

Titre original : Große Mädchen weinen nicht
  • 2002
  • 18A
  • 1h 27m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
6,8/10
1,8 k
MA NOTE
Karoline Herfurth and Anna Maria Mühe in Kati et steffi (2002)
Drama

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueKati and Steffi have been best friends forever. Their love lives are heating up, so they're hitting the books less and going out to nightclubs more. When Steffi sees her father with another ... Tout lireKati and Steffi have been best friends forever. Their love lives are heating up, so they're hitting the books less and going out to nightclubs more. When Steffi sees her father with another woman, her life begins to spiral out of control.Kati and Steffi have been best friends forever. Their love lives are heating up, so they're hitting the books less and going out to nightclubs more. When Steffi sees her father with another woman, her life begins to spiral out of control.

  • Director
    • Maria von Heland
  • Writer
    • Maria von Heland
  • Stars
    • Anna Maria Mühe
    • Karoline Herfurth
    • Josefine Domes
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    6,8/10
    1,8 k
    MA NOTE
    • Director
      • Maria von Heland
    • Writer
      • Maria von Heland
    • Stars
      • Anna Maria Mühe
      • Karoline Herfurth
      • Josefine Domes
    • 17Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 15Commentaires de critiques
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    • Prix
      • 2 nominations au total

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    Rôles principaux32

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    Anna Maria Mühe
    Anna Maria Mühe
    • Kati
    Karoline Herfurth
    Karoline Herfurth
    • Steffi
    Josefine Domes
    • Tessa
    David Winter
    • Carlos
    Tillbert Strahl
    • Klaus
    • (as Tillbert Strahl-Schäfer)
    Stefan Kurt
    Stefan Kurt
    • Hans
    Nina Petri
    Nina Petri
    • Ann
    Gabriela Maria Schmeide
    • Ingrid
    Matthias Brandt
    Matthias Brandt
    • Jost
    Teresa Harder
    Teresa Harder
    • Jeanette
    Dieter Laser
    Dieter Laser
    • Herr Winter
    Jennifer Ulrich
    Jennifer Ulrich
    • Yvonne
    Alma Leiberg
    Alma Leiberg
    • Ramona
    Chiara Steinmüller
    • Lotte
    Beata Lehmann
    Beata Lehmann
    • Polizistin
    Falk Rockstroh
    Falk Rockstroh
    • Lehrer Amtmann
    Hyun Wanner
    Hyun Wanner
    • Jani
    Carl-Johan Vallgren
    • Conny Laser
    • Director
      • Maria von Heland
    • Writer
      • Maria von Heland
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs17

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    marxthedude

    BITTERSWEET, REFRESHINGLY ACCURATE TEEN-DRAMA

    Germany's answer to 'Thirteen' poses many questions about teenage life. Amongst them the strength of friendship and loyalty, the longing for acceptance and stability and the desire to 'beat' rather than 'be beaten'. Where "Große Mädchen weinen nicht" is poles apart from it's teen-angst predocessors is in the acting, charecters particularly it's secondary players and use of narrative.

    Kati and Steffi, the film's lead charecters aren't burdened with mass dysfuctionality or traumas, they are just two typical teens driven only by their on-going friendship. Things change however when Steffi witnesses her father with another woman. What becomes petty revenge, envelopes into tragedy beyond Steffi's comprehension and the loyal Kati having to decide whether she wants to play a part in it all. With Steffi in denial and Kati in guilt and the film's intergral 'revenge' story resolved almost halfway in, the remainder of the film (and it's real heart) is devoted to the complexities of teen-emotion. Steffi's cold controlling aloofness hides her painful insecurities and Kati's delicate need for love becomes secondary to her sense of right and wrong.

    Maria Von Helland consciously mentions the girls sex-lifes, even potential drug-use but treats it matter-of-factly. She turns a seemingly complex tale into an entertaining strikingly simple one of teenage friendship. In her two leads, Anna Maria Mulhe and Karoline Herfurth, we have two remarkably gifted actreses, able to convey more with looks and well judged dialoge then scene stealing quirky performances. Josefine Domes and Jennifer Ulrich fare well also, conveying alot over limited screentime, as this is after all primarily about Steffi and Kati. Because of this, male and adult charecters suffer a little, but not in an obvious way and adding complex male personalities into the mix may just have leant the film's delicate balence towards moralising.

    Both unique and not particularly European (the film's soundtrack consists of English sung pop), this is aguably every bit as strong as teen friendship classics like 'Stand By Me' and 'The Breakfast Club', more so for it's lack of sensationialism.

    Incredibly watchable, instantly appreciated, this is a film to seek out, as well made gems like this on such a well-trod subject can only become few and far between....
    8awillawill

    A German gem with a universal story

    What a superb film. I hadn't heard of it until a director friend drew my attention to it. Though it might be regarded by some as a movie for young people, it is much more than that. There can hardly be a parent who doesn't identify with at least some of the problems so accurately, touchingly and acutely portrayed. I was much impressed by the way the director used simple, often brief, scenes to powerfully indicate a shift in character. In addition to the portrayal of a wonderful universal story, it also told us much about the social and economic problems of Germany following the re-unification.

    A real shame the film hasn't had a wider audience. See it if you can.
    8jpschapira

    The truth about teenage life...

    I'm currently studying with an exchange guy. He's from Germany and is learning many different languages. A very smart boy and fun to be with; and although he speaks to us in our language, it would be interesting to listen to him speaking German. Watching this film, I realized how that would be. Besides the German language itself, he would probably speak the same way; the expressions, and special words, because this film's characters live in the teenage world. The piece is very brave, and I don't know what the reception was at its country in its time, but director Maria Von Heland is trying to declare: "These things happen…And they happen to teenagers".

    In this very real reality, kids go to school and have best friends, hang out with boyfriends, form rock bands, carry on a sexual life and so on. Von Heland's screenplay covers all of these aspects three dimensionally, because it expands them with a lot of knowledge. Best friends are what Kati (newcomer at the time Anna Maria Muhe) and Steffi (Karoline Herfurth). The first has just ended a relationship and the last has a boyfriend named Carlos (David Winter), who is in a rock band. The sexual life of teenage girls isn't something understood, it comes by the person each one is. The movie deals with this letting us know that Steffi and Carlos have known each other for a long time but they still haven't made love.

    On the other side, Kati is always looking for chances; going out late, meeting older guys and carrying condoms inside her jeans. All this we learn when we are taken inside her house, where a ruined family clearly lives. In one scene, while Kati's family is having dinner, Von Heland shows with a still camera the faces of each of the members, and it becomes obvious; it's a tense and dysfunctional life. We later experience a father-daughter talk about some discoveries, and Kati and her younger sister praying to God while we listen to their parents' screams. They say: "God, I know you're very busy and all that, but please make our parents divorce soon". There's another strong scene near the ending, where Kati prays by herself.

    Strong is about everything in this movie. Steffi also has his family issues, we find out. We know the character and we believe she'd resolve them maturely, but when Tessa (Josefine Domes) comes into the picture, and Steffi resolves, we realize that Kati is probably more mature than her and therefore how contradictory life is. Steffi has her motives for what she does with Tessa and everything she does later, so does Kati when she tells her mom: "This is who I am…Look at me!". So does Tessa's mom when she acts, and Kati's mom when she gets mad, and Kati's father when he advices her, and everybody else. One notable thing about the feature is that is difficult to take sides; you understand everyone.

    Another very remarkable detail is the use of music, all of it in English, representing each moment of the story with lyrics and songs according to the music people of the movie characters' age listen. Everything that happens to the two friends is something that could occur to any friendship any day. Because when two people are friends since little, it is something given (in my case with my ever best friend Matías), and when they fight they always make up; it is the tough bond that unites them. But the truth is that sometimes there are some much stronger things that test that bond; and that is the time to find out if the feelings are real. What Kati and Steffi live is way too strong for their age, but it is up to them to work it out, while is up to the movie to show us how powerful friendship truly is.
    8Buddy-51

    complex tale of morally adrift teens

    In most movies about teens - at least those made in America - we usually don't have to spend a great deal of time trying to figure out who are the "good" people and who are the "bad." The filmmakers are usually kind enough to do that for us. This is obviously not the case in Europe, however, for in the German film "Big Girls Don't Cry," the adolescents we meet are anything but morally and ethically clear-cut.

    The two best friends, Steffi and Kati, seem like fairly typical middle class teens - somewhat mischievous, obsessed with boys, and faintly rebellious against the authority figures of the adult world. They also drink, party and experiment with drugs - nothing too radical for teens anywhere in the world today. However, one night Steffi inadvertently discovers that her father is having an affair. At this point, all hell breaks loose, as Steffi decides to take her anger and revenge out on the innocent daughter of her father's mistress, an aspiring singer named Tessa. Steffi sends Tessa to a potentially dangerous local pornographer, leading her to believe that he is actually a record producer searching for new talent. This single action leads to a series of cascading events that winds up, in some way or other, adversely affecting most of the people in Steffi's life.

    Steffi and Kati are both fully realized and complex characters who refuse to be pigeonholed at any given point in the movie. Steffi begins her crusade of vengeance convinced that she is acting strictly out of righteous anger, especially since, in her mind at least, her actions are as much a way of protecting her mother's honor as her own. And if innocent victims have to be sacrificed along the way, well, so be it. What Steffi doesn't realize, until it's too late, is that we can't always control how the human dramas we set in motion will ultimately act themselves out. Kati, who is far more rebellious and far more promiscuous than Steffi, finds herself torn between her loyalty as a friend and doing what she knows is right. It is Kati, the less self-assured one, who, ultimately, becomes the moral beacon that Steffi will be forced to follow if she hopes to survive in the world.

    Anna Maria Muhe as Kati and Karoline Herfurth as Steffi give brilliant, well-rounded performances, as does the rest of the talented cast. The acting, writing and directing are so good and true, in fact, that the movie is able to override the occasional implausibility or touch of melodrama that wanders into the storyline.

    I just wish American movies about teenagers were this thought-provoking, interesting and impressive.
    AcerbicTriangle987

    Fantastic Movie

    I don't think that this is a movie just for girls. I'm a guy and I thought it was brilliant. I think it's a movie just for teenagers and the effect that parents can have on their kids. I mean, Steffi goes crazy when she finds out about her dad's affair and wants to ruin other people's lives, and I think it was portrayed beautifully on-screen. I think that people should take a closer look at how they can take care of their kids.

    I also think it's just a beautiful movie of friendship and how far you'll go to help a friend, without losing yourself along the way, as in Kati's situation. I thought it was just a beautiful movie, and I love watching this on TV. I've seen it about 8 times now and still continue to watch it every now and then. By the way, this is the first foreign movie I've seen fully. Sub-titles usually bother me, but they didn't with this one.

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    • Anecdotes
      Film debut of Anna Maria Mühe and Jennifer Ulrich.
    • Bandes originales
      Platinum
      Written by Eric Holland and Jessica Congdon

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    • Date de sortie
      • 24 octobre 2002 (Germany)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Germany
    • Site officiel
      • Official site (United States)
    • Langue
      • German
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Big Girls Don't Cry
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Berlin, Allemagne
    • sociétés de production
      • Deutsche Columbia TriStar Filmproduktion
      • Egoli Tossell Pictures
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    • Brut – États-Unis et Canada
      • 1 238 $ US
    • Fin de semaine d'ouverture – États-Unis et Canada
      • 682 $ US
      • 5 sept. 2004
    • Brut – à l'échelle mondiale
      • 29 361 $ US
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    • Durée
      1 heure 27 minutes
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      • Dolby Digital
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    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.85 : 1

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