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Nous étions soldats

Titre original : We Were Soldiers
  • 2002
  • 18
  • 2h 18m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
7,2/10
157 k
MA NOTE
POPULARITÉ
2 973
315
Mel Gibson in Nous étions soldats (2002)
Home Video Trailer from Paramount Home Entertainment
Liretrailer2 min 52 s
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L'histoire de la première grande bataille des forces armées américaines lors de la guerre du Vietnam, et des soldats des deux côtés, alors que leurs femmes attendaient anxieusement leur reto... Tout lireL'histoire de la première grande bataille des forces armées américaines lors de la guerre du Vietnam, et des soldats des deux côtés, alors que leurs femmes attendaient anxieusement leur retour.L'histoire de la première grande bataille des forces armées américaines lors de la guerre du Vietnam, et des soldats des deux côtés, alors que leurs femmes attendaient anxieusement leur retour.

  • Director
    • Randall Wallace
  • Writers
    • Harold G. Moore
    • Joseph Lee Galloway
    • Randall Wallace
  • Stars
    • Mel Gibson
    • Madeleine Stowe
    • Greg Kinnear
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    7,2/10
    157 k
    MA NOTE
    POPULARITÉ
    2 973
    315
    • Director
      • Randall Wallace
    • Writers
      • Harold G. Moore
      • Joseph Lee Galloway
      • Randall Wallace
    • Stars
      • Mel Gibson
      • Madeleine Stowe
      • Greg Kinnear
    • 843Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 86Commentaires de critiques
    • 65Métascore
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
    • Prix
      • 3 victoires et 5 nominations au total

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    Rôles principaux88

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    Mel Gibson
    Mel Gibson
    • Lt. Col. Hal Moore
    Madeleine Stowe
    Madeleine Stowe
    • Julie Moore
    Greg Kinnear
    Greg Kinnear
    • Maj. Bruce Crandall
    Sam Elliott
    Sam Elliott
    • Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley
    Chris Klein
    Chris Klein
    • 2nd Lt. Jack Geoghegan
    Keri Russell
    Keri Russell
    • Barbara Geoghegan
    Barry Pepper
    Barry Pepper
    • Joe Galloway
    Duong Don
    Duong Don
    • Lt. Col. Nguyen Huu An
    Ryan Hurst
    Ryan Hurst
    • Sgt. Ernie Savage
    Robert Bagnell
    Robert Bagnell
    • 1st Lt. Charlie Hastings
    Marc Blucas
    Marc Blucas
    • 2nd Lt. Henry Herrick
    Josh Daugherty
    Josh Daugherty
    • Sp4 Robert Ouellette
    Jsu Garcia
    Jsu Garcia
    • Capt. Tony Nadal
    Jon Hamm
    Jon Hamm
    • Capt. Matt Dillon
    Clark Gregg
    Clark Gregg
    • Capt. Tom Metsker
    Desmond Harrington
    Desmond Harrington
    • Sp4 Bill Beck
    Blake Heron
    Blake Heron
    • Sp4 Galen Bungum
    Erik MacArthur
    Erik MacArthur
    • Sp4 Russell Adams
    • Director
      • Randall Wallace
    • Writers
      • Harold G. Moore
      • Joseph Lee Galloway
      • Randall Wallace
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs843

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    mikefigat

    A Movie that Depicts Real Events

    I for one am someone who was inspired to read the book "We were Soldiers Once and Young" after seeing this movie. WWS is about a distinct event that actually happened. SGM Plumley was a soldier's soldier, with five combat jumps in three wars and an astounding three combat infantry badges. LTC Moore was the sort of leader who could keep his head and lead his troops through the worst of battle. People who complain of clichés in this movie might as well complain that people in 18th century movies wear three-cornered hats.

    To those looking for an anti-war message, it is there. When Moore goes to Division headquarters and gets his mission, he asks about projected enemy in his area of operations. The staff officer standing next to the general says "a manageable number." To this Moore responds with words to the effect of "which means you have no idea." It turns out that Moore's battalion gets dropped on top of a vastly larger enemy force (if I remember correctly, they get dropped right next to an NVA brigade). Ordinarily, it order to assure success in attack, you want to have three times the numbers of your enemy. In this case, the ratio was 4:1 going the other way. Then the battle is about how artillery and air support makes up the difference in numbers.

    The obvious criticism here is that the command was fumbling around in the dark. At the end of the movie, the names of the 70+ men who died are prominently displayed on the screen. A military mind is not treasonous and will not disrespect its superiors, but it will let facts speak for themselves.

    The next comment is only tangentially related to this movie. However, many voices here have taken the opportunity to vent their views on Vietnam, so I feel compelled to put things in a broader historical context.

    There was a war that did not take place between 1945 and the fall of the Berlin wall. It would have been called WWIII. The Soviet Union and the US stood eye-to-eye for 40+ years, but did not blink. It was an ideological conflict with an evil that meant death to 50+ million people in communist countries in this century. It was conflict with a system that vastly constrained freedom. Fortunately for the world, the US finally prevailed. The struggle fought between communism and the west was fought in a variety of ways: in public relations, in sports, in propaganda, and in a series of proxy wars. In Korea, Greece, Vietnam, Afghanistan and a variety of smaller stages, East contested with West. To the people caught up in these local conflicts, these wars were absolute tragedies. However, in the grand scheme of things, these conflicts pale to insignificance when compared to the 500,000,000 who would have died in WWIII.
    RebBacchus

    Factual to the point of pain

    I should never be surprised that people, who wouldn't recognize Principle, much less Honor, Duty, or Country if it introduced itself, see virtue as vice. As one who served in that war, I found the movie to be factual to the point of pain. Those who call this movie racist, lack vocabulary. or an understanding of racism. I don't know which is sadder. This movie tells a part of a soldier's story very well. Soldiers march to a different drummer, how tragic that so many, today, still refuse to honor those who protected them.

    The millions in Indo-China murdered at the hands of the Communist cry that our "racism" was so poorly lead at the highest civilian levels that we abandon them. Their blood is not on my hands or on the hands of my fellow soldiers. It is on the hands of those who are so blind they refuse to see. A valid case could be made that that there are errors in the story, certainly it doesn't tell the rest of the story, or of the next part of this battle where US casualties were 40%. What it does tell it tells very well. Those men were volunteers, and their nobility shows in this movie. I recommend it, especially for any who would want to understand those who served at that time.
    KristinMarie419

    Seeing the enemy and home in a different light

    This film is so different from the traditionally cynical (and rightly so) Vietnam War movies. While it goes without question that this film depicts the bloody and gruesome horrors of the tragedy of the first major conflict of the war, it does so while juxtaposing the story with that of stories of the home front and the enemy. The enemy in this film is not the animalistic, silent enemy we are used to. We hear this enemy speak, we see his love for his family and his devotion to his cause. While being bombarded with images of death and destruction on the battlefield, we are brought back home to see the wives as they face the death themselves.

    While of course not a flawless movie, it was without a doubt moving, and I highly recommend it.
    ggraziano

    Mixed feelings

    We Were Soldiers is not for the squeamish. It ranks up there with Saving Private Ryan for realistically showing the brutality of war. I was moved almost beyond description by the ordeal these 390-odd US Army Air Cav soldiers endured at the hands of thousands of Viet Cong troops. It is as close to Hell as one could get on earth--a charnel house of horrors, where death is sudden and swift. Mel Gibson and Sam Elliot lead a group of green recruits into the Valley Of Death on an impossible mission in the early days of our involvement in Vietnam.

    Based on actual events in 1965, this was the first major involvement of US troops and North Vietnamese regulars. The writing, directing, and acting are first rate, and the battle scenes are too real for comfort. What really makes the mind reel is that after the slaughter depicted in this film, Mel's character Lt. Col. Hal Moore goes back to the valley of death for more than 200 days. The American dead are listed on 3 East of the Vietnam Memorial Wall. I stood at attention and cried when the names of the fallen were listed at the end of the film. You will, too.
    9bsmith5552

    "They Finally Got it Right!"

    "We Were Soldiers" is based on a real life battle of the Viet Nam war that took place in 1965 in a remote part of Viet Nam. It is based on a book by Harold G. Moore and Joseph L. Galloway who are portrayed in the film by Mel Gibson and Barry Pepper respectively.

    The film opens with a depiction of the 1954 slaughter of French troops by the Vietnamese army. Twenty one years later Lt. Col Moore (Gibson) and his battalion of 395 men are thrust unknowingly into the same hornet's nest consisting of some 4,000 battle hardened Viet Nam regulars who have been fighting their enemies for many years.

    Director Randall Wallace tells the story from three perspectives. Firstly from the viewpoint of the Americans. Outnumbered ten to one they face impossible odds. How Col. Moore rallies his troops and gets them to pull together as a team is a central theme of the picture. Secondly, the story is told from the viewpoint of the wives and families left behind and the problems they have to deal with. Lastly, the Vietnamese army is shown not as unfeeling monsters, but as a professional army defending their beliefs and territory.

    The battle scenes are as realistic and convincing as any war movie that you will ever see. We suffer through the casualties both on the battlefield and at home along with the participants. The special effects are seamless and exciting.

    Mel Gibson gives a convincing performance as Moore and if you watch the DVD, you can see the amazing similarities between the two men. Madeleine Stowe plays Julie Moore and Keri Russell plays Barbara Geoghegan two of the wives who take on the unenviable task of delivering those dreaded telegrams to the widows from the War Department. Chris Klein plays Russell's husband Jack a new officer and father. His scene with Gibson in the base chapel is memorable. Greg Kinnear plays Captain Crandall the head of Moore's helicopter fleet. Don Duong is very effective as the Vietnamese commander. But acting cudos go to veteran Sam Elliot as the crusty Sgt. Major Plumley.

    "We Were Soldiers" is a gripping Viet Nam war drama told in a way that reflects ALL of the participants in an impartially realistic way. As Hank Moore says on the DVD, They finally got it right.

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    • Anecdotes
      Sam Elliott became so close to the real Basil L. Plumley and his family that during Plumley's funeral with military honors Elliott sat in the front row beside Plumley's daughter as she received the folded flag.
    • Gaffes
      Contrary to what's shown in the movie, Lieutenant Henry Herrick and 2nd Platoon did not recklessly charge after a lone NVA soldier, but were in fact ordered to advance out to the flank by Captain John Herren and did so in a disciplined manner. However, he encountered a group of retreating PAVN soldiers and followed them, losing contact with the rest of the company and leaving the flank exposed. At one point, when coming to the clearing shown in the film, Herrick stopped and radioed back on whether or not he should continue through it or go around it, which was when he and his men were attacked by the NVA.

      It was also Herrick's platoon that inflicted the first casualties on the NVA in said attack, not the other way around as shown in the movie.
    • Citations

      Lt. Colonel Hal Moore: [Hal Moore speaks to his men before going into battle] Look around you. In the 7th cavalry, we've got a captain from the Ukraine; another from Puerto Rico. We've got Japanese, Chinese, Blacks, Hispanics, Cherokee Indians. Jews and Gentiles. All Americans. Now here in the states, some of you in this unit may have experienced discrimination because of race or creed. But for you and me now, all that is gone. We're moving into the valley of the shadow of death, where you will watch the back of the man next to you, as he will watch yours. And you won't care what color he is, or by what name he calls God. They say we're leaving home. We're going to what home was always supposed to be. Now let us understand the situation. We are going into battle against a tough and determined enemy.

      [pauses]

      Lt. Colonel Hal Moore: I can't promise you that I will bring you all home alive. But this I swear, before you and before Almighty God, that when we go into battle, I will be the first to set foot on the field, and I will be the last to step off, and I will leave no one behind. Dead or alive, we will all come home together. So help me, God.

    • Autres versions
      Trailers include a scene where Julie Moore explains that the last thing most dying soldiers say is "Tell my wife I love her". This is not included in the theatrical release.
    • Connexions
      Featured in Siskel & Ebert & the Movies: We Were Soldiers/40 Days and 40 Nights/Queen of the Damned (2002)
    • Bandes originales
      Hold On I'm Coming
      Written by Isaac Hayes and David Porter

      Performed by Tommy Blaize

      Produced by Nick Glennie-Smith

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 1 mars 2002 (Canada)
    • Pays d’origine
      • United States
      • France
      • Germany
      • United Kingdom
    • Site officiel
      • Official Facebook
    • Langues
      • English
      • Vietnamese
      • French
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • We Were Soldiers
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Fort Hunter Liggett, Californie, États-Unis(Central Highlands, South Vietnam)
    • sociétés de production
      • Icon Entertainment International
      • Motion Picture Production GmbH & Co. Erste KG
      • StudioCanal
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    • Budget
      • 75 000 000 $ US (estimation)
    • Brut – États-Unis et Canada
      • 78 122 718 $ US
    • Fin de semaine d'ouverture – États-Unis et Canada
      • 20 212 543 $ US
      • 3 mars 2002
    • Brut – à l'échelle mondiale
      • 115 374 915 $ US
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    • Durée
      2 heures 18 minutes
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      • Dolby Digital
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    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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