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Ta kourelia tragoudane akoma...

  • 1979
  • 2h 3m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
7,3/10
1,2 k
MA NOTE
Ta kourelia tragoudane akoma... (1979)
CriminalitéDrameMystère

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueFive friends (representatives of the Fifties generation) now in their forties, get together after many years of silence.Five friends (representatives of the Fifties generation) now in their forties, get together after many years of silence.Five friends (representatives of the Fifties generation) now in their forties, get together after many years of silence.

  • Director
    • Nikos Nikolaidis
  • Writer
    • Nikos Nikolaidis
  • Stars
    • Alkis Panagiotidis
    • Konstantinos Tzoumas
    • Rita Bensousan
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    7,3/10
    1,2 k
    MA NOTE
    • Director
      • Nikos Nikolaidis
    • Writer
      • Nikos Nikolaidis
    • Stars
      • Alkis Panagiotidis
      • Konstantinos Tzoumas
      • Rita Bensousan
    • 3Commentaires d'utilisateurs
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
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    Alkis Panagiotidis
    Alkis Panagiotidis
    • Alkis
    Konstantinos Tzoumas
    Konstantinos Tzoumas
    • Konstantinos
    Rita Bensousan
    Rita Bensousan
    • Rita
    Hristos Valavanidis
    Hristos Valavanidis
    • Hristos
    Dora Kalogridi
    • Dora
    • (as Emmy Kalogridi)
    Gioula Kazoni
    • Thief
    Maritina Passari
    Maritina Passari
    Antigoni Amanitou
    Antigoni Amanitou
    • Lady in White
    Youla Anagnostou
      Dimitris Polytimos
      Dimitris Polytimos
      • Dimitris
      • (as Dimitris Politimos)
      Olia Lazaridou
      Olia Lazaridou
      • Vera
      • Director
        • Nikos Nikolaidis
      • Writer
        • Nikos Nikolaidis
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      10MewWave

      A dangerous generation of misfits that society thinks it crashed. Perhaps it would have succeeded, but this movie is here. The wretches are still singing.

      Only lately did I begin to indulge in watching Nikolaidis's films and man, have I been missing out.

      A fantastic second feature that bares a striking resemblance to The Big Chill, a great piece of work that would not come out for another 4 years. The premise is just about the same - the surviving members of a rebellious generation meet again after decades, reflecting on their old days, getting to live them once more. Haunted by lost people who may or may not have actually existed - people who are, in fact, the lost, long-dead generation, pushed aside and ran down by society over the dull, depressing years since the "wretches" parted.

      The similarities, however, stop there. This film is much more cruel both to its characters and the viewer. Nikolaidis doesn't hold back any punches - the wretches were, and some still are, a gang of vicious criminals making it much more difficult for the average viewer to sympathize with them, but if you are open-minded in the least, don't expect not to. There is, like in every brilliantly written story, a bit of us in each of these characters and it's all given to us in ingenious bits of dialogue, one of the movie's (and, I'm coming to realize, the director's) greatest traits. Here, of course, also lies the reason this film never made it big outside Greece: viewers who don't speak the language are going to miss out on a lot of why Nikolaidis's cult following adores this film. But would I still recommend this movie even if you don't speak Greek? 100%. There's a lot more to it than the brilliant lines and with some decent subtitles you won't really miss out on the feeling of the movie - the excellent performances will help with that.

      The cinematography is intentionally dull, an excellent choice of atmosphere, intriguing shots and very inspired editing. The sound is also much better than what I've come to expect from Greek movies of that era, having watched some fantastic Greek movies that were really hard to watch because of the dialogue being barely audible. Here, the dialogue is crystal-clear, surprisingly without sacrificing its natural feel. The choice of music is absolutely excellent and takes over the spotlight at just the right places, also contributing to that "big chill" feel - the irony of seeing self-destructive people, depressive situations and then distracting both viewer and characters with some happy rock'n'roll for a feel of bittersweet nostalgia like no other.

      Overall, "Kourelia" was much more than I expected it to be. I had been told to expect crazy, over-the-top situations, brilliant dialogue and an all-around solid movie, and I definitely got all that. But what I didn't expect was such a unique take on life, meaning or lack thereof, poetry and karma hidden under this rough, violent exterior, this bittersweet feeling of nostalgia, of seeing a take on where life can take you when you don't find love (notable, of course, that Nikolaidis, writer and director of the film, was, much like his works, a true romantic under his tough shell - he had been married for 9 years when he completed this film and he would continue to be until the end of his life, 28 years later).

      And here comes the tough part. Epilogue and rating. I've tried and I've tried, but I simply can't rate art of this caliber on a simple numeric scale of 1-10. But isn't that, in itself, a reason to lean towards the top of the scale? I've decided to give it a 10, hoping it'll help with getting someone, somewhere intrigued. If it helps with getting even a little bit of exposure, if someone out there reads this review and decides to watch the film or check out the director, that's a success in my book.

      10/10.
      8ricardojorgeramalho

      The death of idealism

      Nikos Nikolaidis is a controversial director. Marked by a strong generational and ideological feeling, he viscerally rejects (and in Nikolaidis' work this visceral is sometimes even literal) capitalism, in a way that oscillates between mere sociological criticism peppered by sometimes quite violent metaphors, a moral support for urban guerrilla warfare and even the use of very dubious metaphors and pornographic aesthetics as in his most infamous work Singapore Sling (1990).

      In this Ta kourelia tragoudane akoma...(1979) we have a Nikolaidis manifestly disillusioned with aging (in a very likely allusion to the republican regime that followed the dictatorship in 1975 and that led Greece to NATO and the EEC and not to Moscow) and the lack of options for his generation to live the dreams of youth.

      Dreams and friendships are dying, with corpses literally piling up in the backyard, in a metaphor of an almost gratuitous violence, and the old revolutionaries are left with two options, to die faithful to their ideals (option of some) or to become bourgeois by integrating in the regime and abdicating their principles, which amounts to a spiritual death.

      It is therefore a dark and disillusioned film where physical violence appears as a metaphor for the psychological and moral death of the characters and the current political regime.

      An intelligent and interesting vision, but one that certainly does not generate consensus.
      KGB-Greece-Patras

      another unique film by Greece's perhaps only director

      Nikos Nikolaidis is a director unlike any other, here in Greece. His uncompromised, simple & cynical dialogues, his beautiful photography, extremity and obscenity, his weird "black" humour and somewhat ever present surrealism, all these make him my greatest. Greek cinema generally hasn't had many great moments for many reasons. Nikos Nikolaidis, uncompromised and unwilling to play "the big game" which he has been offered as a mainstream intellectual, for 30 years now and going he has been making powerful & controversial films that deserve more attention from serious cinema fans (both those who like the intellect and those who like it strange & bizarre!

      "Ta kurelia tragudane akoma" , his second feature, a hymn to friendship & companion ship, is both cruel and funny, cynical and sweet, about people who have lost all hopes, a surreal tribute to the hopeless and pessimist 'betrayed' people. Neverless the film doesn't ever gets slow and remains quite unpredictable and interesting. All texts in Nikolaidis films are perhaps his best point.

      This is a film that would probably be regarded as not appropriate for minors: while Nikolaidis doesn't glorify violence, there seem not to be any visible ethics or morality in his films, another reason he is regarded by some as 'anarchist' and 'angry' director.

      SOMEONE, RELEASE THIS GREAT DIRECTOR WORLDWIDE !!!!!!! His site link here in IMDb is in English! Get the info!

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      • Date de sortie
        • 4 octobre 1979 (Greece)
      • Pays d’origine
        • Greece
      • Langue
        • Greek
      • Aussi connu sous le nom de
        • The Thrushes Are Still Singing
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