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Cet obscur objet du désir

  • 1977
  • 14A
  • 1h 43m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
7,8/10
26 k
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Cet obscur objet du désir (1977)
THAT OBSCURE OBJECT OF DESIRE: please don't go (US)
Lireclip1 min 25 s
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SatireComedyDramaRomance

Lors d'un voyage en train, Mathieu Faber raconte aux passagers de son compartiment ses amours avec Conchita, femme radieuse qu'il poursuit de son obsession à travers l'Europe. Mais elle se d... Tout lireLors d'un voyage en train, Mathieu Faber raconte aux passagers de son compartiment ses amours avec Conchita, femme radieuse qu'il poursuit de son obsession à travers l'Europe. Mais elle se dérobe toujours à ses avances.Lors d'un voyage en train, Mathieu Faber raconte aux passagers de son compartiment ses amours avec Conchita, femme radieuse qu'il poursuit de son obsession à travers l'Europe. Mais elle se dérobe toujours à ses avances.

  • Director
    • Luis Buñuel
  • Writers
    • Luis Buñuel
    • Jean-Claude Carrière
    • Pierre Louÿs
  • Stars
    • Fernando Rey
    • Carole Bouquet
    • Ángela Molina
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    7,8/10
    26 k
    MA NOTE
    • Director
      • Luis Buñuel
    • Writers
      • Luis Buñuel
      • Jean-Claude Carrière
      • Pierre Louÿs
    • Stars
      • Fernando Rey
      • Carole Bouquet
      • Ángela Molina
    • 75Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 95Commentaires de critiques
    • 84Métascore
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
    • Nommé pour 2 oscars
      • 6 victoires et 11 nominations au total

    Vidéos2

    Official Trailer
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    Official Trailer
    THAT OBSCURE OBJECT OF DESIRE: please don't go (US)
    Clip 1:25
    THAT OBSCURE OBJECT OF DESIRE: please don't go (US)
    THAT OBSCURE OBJECT OF DESIRE: please don't go (US)
    Clip 1:25
    THAT OBSCURE OBJECT OF DESIRE: please don't go (US)

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    Rôles principaux31

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    Fernando Rey
    Fernando Rey
    • Mathieu Faber
    Carole Bouquet
    Carole Bouquet
    • Conchita Pérez (brunette)
    Ángela Molina
    Ángela Molina
    • Conchita
    • (as Angela Molina)
    Julien Bertheau
    Julien Bertheau
    • Edouard
    André Weber
    • Martin
    • (as Andre Weber)
    Milena Vukotic
    Milena Vukotic
    • Femme dans le train
    María Asquerino
    María Asquerino
    • Encarnación Pérez - madre de Conchita
    Ellen Bahl
    • Manolita
    Valerie Blanco
    • Isabelle
    • (as Valérie Blanco)
    Auguste Carrière
    • La femme qui reprise dans la vitrine
    • (as Auguste Carriere)
    Jacques Debary
    Jacques Debary
    • Un voyageur
    Antonio Duque
    • Conducteur
    André Lacombe
    • Portier
    Lita Lluch-Peiro
    • Ballerine
    Annie Monange
    • Employée du cabaret
    Jean-Claude Montalban
    • Garçon dans le bar
    Muni
    Muni
    • Concierge
    Bernard Musson
    Bernard Musson
    • Deporting Policeman
    • Director
      • Luis Buñuel
    • Writers
      • Luis Buñuel
      • Jean-Claude Carrière
      • Pierre Louÿs
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs75

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    jmerlino

    As a surrealist gesture...

    ...I'm giving this film four antilopes and a pear floating in perfume.

    Plot: Idiotic old man gives a duck-ton of money to a barely legal dancer/stripper who in turn manipulates the hell out of him. He chases her around France and Spain, and ultimately gets blowed up real good.

    Personally, for most of the film I was pretty convinced that Conchita and her guitar playing friend were terrorists. I'm still not sure she wasn't.
    rogierr

    not your everyday love story, or is it?

    Luis Buñuel is still concerned with chastity and sexual morality. In 'obscur' he concludes a trinity in my opinion (after 'fantôme' and 'discret') and his career as a director. These three films represent roughly the films he made in b/w: 'fantôme' represents the surrealism and random dreams of his first films, 'discret' represents his critical anticlericism and anti-bourgeois denouncement and 'cet obscur objet du désir' represents a number of films in which Buñuel expresses his concerns about sexual morality (Tristana, Belle de jour, Journal d'une femme de chambre). The great Fernando Rey (French Connection, Tristana, Viridiana, Campanadas a medianoche) and the great cinematographer Edmond Richard (Campanadas a medianoche '65, le Procès '63, Fantôme liberté '74, Charme discret '72) complement Buñuel's intriguing techniques. Even the cover of the video (a stitched mouth) complements the preceding two (a statue of liberty with a limp torch, a mouth with two legs and a hat). Unfortunately 'obscur' is not as startling and inventive as many of Buñuel's other films: it's not one of his best, but still very worthy.

    A man (Fernando Rey) step in a train, throws a bucket of water over a woman and tells his surrounding passengers (a professor in psychology, a judge, a child and her mother, who inquire because they're eager to hear the sordid details) about how he met Conchita (former maid, Carola Bouquet/Ángela Molina) and tried to win her by paying her's and her mother's bills. This bourgeois man thinks he can buy her love and her mother's help (like buying furniture, or like trapping a mouse with a mouse-trap). Those are the premises for a moralistic but incredibly subtle story (not a farce) about subversiveness. There is no music in the film, apart from the end scene and some flamenco source music. I do appreciate a film that doesn't need music to emphasize emotions. That was one of Buñuel's many virtues.

    The mysterious actress Muni appears several times. But really strange are the two actresses playing the same woman. They probably represent the two Conchitas: one rational and very careful not to get trapped (wearing an iron maiden and a white handbag), the other with temperament, attracted to Mathieu but devious and deceitful (with a black handbag just one second after carrying the white one). In Mathieu's mind Conchita was a hypocrit (Rey: 'You will appreciate that she deserved the chastisement'). Or is it only the same woman in the mind of Mathieu? Are the two Conchitas representing Mathieu's constantly changing mind? Or did something happen to one of the actresses on the set so that Buñuel had to finish shooting with another actress? Later that day Conchita carries a brown handbag, after having thrown a bucket of water over Mathieu she must have made some message clear to him, uniting the former two handbags in one (?) and uniting the two Conchitas in one? Their relationship explodes eventually. I'm wondering how that emerged from the novel by Pierre Louÿs: writer of 'La femme et le pantin' (1958).

    8/10
    dbufkin

    Pests and rodents -- even more obscure symbols?

    Yes, the back drop of terrorism. Yes, the ubiquitous sack. But how about the mouse caught in a trap inexplicably in the middle of a scene? Or the fat disgusting fly in Fernando Rey's drink in another scene? What was it doing there? (Yes I know, the backstroke!) But seriously, these bizarre additions are intrusive but do not actually disrupt the narrative (as heavy symbolism does in so many art house films.) They are intriguing. To me it is meant to offer the audience a clue that Mathieu's love for Conchita is not pure. It is contaminated by lust and the shallow insincerity of both of them.

    I'm open to better suggestions.

    I have to say I loved this film.
    10seat850

    Using two actresses for one role not a planned plot device

    Contrary to the initial comment on this page, the director Luis Bunuel did not use two different actresses to play the lead role as a plot device to show "One actress for her placid nature and another actress for her tempermental side."

    While this is an oft-repeated misconception, it's not remotely true. In Luis Bunuel's autobiography, "My Last Sigh" (A fantastic book, still in print) the director discusses the reason for this unique directorial device, and how funny he finds it that so many "fans" assume that the choices were based on the actresses temperment or his desire to "express" something obscure. In truth, two actresses were used simply because the lead actress quit partway through production after having completed many critical scenes. Luis was beside himself over the wasted time and money in reshooting, so he hired a replacement to shoot only the missing scenes, and edited them irregardless of who was acting in a given scene. It served him well, as the end result was brilliant.
    9editorbob

    Could have been made last week

    Depending on your point of view, this film is either a biting, insightful, timeless illumination of human dignity and indignity or a woeful commentary on how painfully slowly we evolve. The main story, humorous and poignant by turns, is punctuated by subplot bits that come right out of this week's news. Not bad for a film shot a quarter of a century ago.

    Fernando Rey is simply wonderful, and Conchita are fabulous! Bunuel, as always, is once again a delight.

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    • Anecdotes
      According to screenwriter Jean-Claude Carrière, the reason Maria Schneider was dismissed from the film was her heavy drug use, which caused her to give a "lackluster" performance and caused tremendous friction between her and Buñuel.
    • Gaffes
      Mathieu enters the room where Conchita dances nude, throws the leftmost table to the right, and chases out all the men. The remaining table and chairs on the left are standing upright. After they talk for two minutes the camera returns to the area with the tables, where that same table and chairs lean against the wall in disarray.
    • Citations

      Mathieu: I respect love too much to go seeking it in the back streets.

    • Connexions
      Featured in A propósito de Buñuel (2000)
    • Bandes originales
      Die Walküre
      Written by Richard Wagner

      Performed by Orchester der Bayreuther Festspiele

      Conducted by Karl Böhm

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 8 septembre 2016 (Canada)
    • Pays d’origine
      • France
      • Spain
    • Langues
      • French
      • Spanish
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • That Obscure Object of Desire
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Giralda Tower, Sevilla, Andalucía, Espagne
    • sociétés de production
      • Greenwich Film Productions
      • Les Films Galaxie
      • In-Cine Compañía Industrial Cinematográfica
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      • 3 140 $ US
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    • Durée
      1 heure 43 minutes
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
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